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Caine hits out against today's 'banal' films
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Posted on 09/03/2006 9:16:47 PM PDT by sonsofliberty2000

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To: sonsofliberty2000

It's true there's a lot of crap being made, but there's a lot of good stuff still being made too. You want epics? Lord of the Rings... You want quotables? Look to any Coen brothers film :~) There's just more choices.

I don't think it's the really ~good~ stuff that's being sent straight to DVD :~)


81 posted on 09/04/2006 2:30:04 PM PDT by HairOfTheDog (Head On. Apply directly to the forehead!)
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To: sonsofliberty2000
I'm sort of surprised Caine would say all this without parsing his words better.

Hollywood is going through the same kind of glut that the music industry is going through:  the fact that it is easier to make and distribute the media means that more mediocre productions will saturate the market. 

Simply put: it's easier for people with little skill or talent to produce a CD or a movie.  That leads to more crap being produced.

But that doesn't mean there aren't gems being made.

 

82 posted on 09/04/2006 2:30:45 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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To: RodgerD
Billy Jack 2 !!!

Okay, now you've forced me to admit I liked both those Billy Jack movies. Never saw the third one. Whatever happened to Tom Laughlin(?) anyway?

Wikipedia: Tom Laughlin

Funny, I didn't even know he has been a candidate for president. Twice.
83 posted on 09/04/2006 2:43:41 PM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: JLAGRAYFOX

Dirty Rotten Scondrels with Steve Martin was one of the funniest movies I have ever seen.


84 posted on 09/04/2006 2:45:36 PM PDT by jslade (The beatings well cease when morale improves!)
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To: vetvetdoug
I loved him in "Breaker Morant"...

If you all would like a great movie... quirky.. see "Saint Ralph"... pretty good actually

85 posted on 09/04/2006 2:54:36 PM PDT by Dick Vomer (liberals suck......... but it depends on what your definition of the word "suck" is.)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

Let us hope for the day when talented pro-American writers can make movies cheaply and bypass the studios entirely.


86 posted on 09/04/2006 3:02:32 PM PDT by The Right Stuff
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To: jslade
Dirty Rotten Scoundrels was a remake of Bedtime Story which had David Niven and Marlon Brando in the leads. The original 1964 film is well worth a 'look'. Brando said in his autobiography that Bedtime Story was one of the films he most enjoyed making -- and it shows. Brando does the Martin part in a very much more subdued way and I think Brando's skills for comedy were never more apparent than in Bedtime Story. Just a suggestion.
87 posted on 09/04/2006 3:17:25 PM PDT by I. M. Trenchant
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To: AngelesCrestHighway
where you a little light in the checking account when you did JAWS 4???

Years after he did Jaws 4, he admitted that at the time he knew the movie was a piece of crap. But he said that the money he got for appearing in it paid for his new house.

88 posted on 09/04/2006 6:09:33 PM PDT by lowbridge (I want to die peacefully in my sleep like my grandfather. Not screaming, like his passengers.)
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To: sonsofliberty2000
The hits reflected Hollywood at its trashiest, with an emphasis on special effects, action and violence, he said. Singling out Beerfest, a comedy about excessive drinking, and The Worm-Eaters, a horror drama about boys who eat worms, he added: “Some of the pictures are so gross.

As opposed to the movies of 30 years ago.


89 posted on 09/04/2006 6:46:04 PM PDT by weegee (Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
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To: LS
Bogart did crap, too


90 posted on 09/04/2006 6:49:20 PM PDT by weegee (Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
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To: The Right Stuff

We may be able to get to cheaper film production soon as movies are shot digitally (even if the resulting footage is still processed with effects to "look" like film).

Raw film stock, plus processing, plus printing makes it impossible to make a "cheap" film these days. You are talking millions of dollars of investment, much of it just in materials.

Even Desparado (which was shot in 16mm) was designed to be watched at home (and much of that rumored $35,000 cost was blown away by the STUDIO money that was used in editing the film, blowing it up to 35mm, striking prints, advertising, etc. In the end it was NOT a cheap film. Cheap by Hollywood's standards but then you could make a film for what Hollywood has been known to spend just in advertising.


91 posted on 09/04/2006 6:54:39 PM PDT by weegee (Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
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To: Psycho_Bunny

The same amount of raunchy crap seems to always have been produced (going back to the 1930s). And that is true of music, films, and comics.

HOWEVER, it wasn't the industry establishment that was marketing the biggest trash.

The idea of "standards and practices" went out the window as the anti-establishment baby boomers came to power in corporate America. So now we have "Holy SH*T" ad campaigns from Volkswagon and mutilated nipples as the half time show at the Super Bowl.


92 posted on 09/04/2006 6:57:43 PM PDT by weegee (Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
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To: Proud_texan

Well Chalie Sheen thought he watched a snuff film and went out with girls from the Hollywood madame. The morals are just as bad as ever.

Some say that Fatty Arbuckle got a bum rapp.

And it is the Hollywood of today that CELERBATED Bob Crane's addiction to pornography and whitewashed it. One of his sons came forward during the hype for the film to say that his father showed him pornographic videos he had shot of himself with different women.

And today you can BUY some of that video (I think from another of Crane's sons).


93 posted on 09/04/2006 7:01:31 PM PDT by weegee (Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

I remember catching a line from some pro-abort film critic or columnist about Cider House Rules. His point was that "those who oppose abortion should not criticize this film because of that element of the plot because abortion is legal and you just have to accept it."

In the time frame presented in the film, it was a criminal act. And the immorality of an act does not depend on its legality or illegality.

Slavery was legal. Nazi Germany reduced the Jews to second class citizens under the law.

Adultery is now legal in many states. As is same sex sodomy. And bestiality (few places ever made it criminal, except in public).


94 posted on 09/04/2006 7:05:44 PM PDT by weegee (Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
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