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To: zimdog
So Muslims inherently hate us that that's why they terrorize us, but this has nothing to do with Islamic terrorism?

Here's a couple of examples: We helped the Afghan's kick the Soviets out of their country, what thanks did we get? The Taliban and 9-11. When Clinton was CiC, we sent troops to Yugoslavia to protect Muslims from the Serbs, what did that get us in terms of gratitude from the Muslim world?! Nothing.

My point is that when we are nice to Muslims, they hate us. When we protect ourselves and defend ourselves against them, they hate us. Our polices do not affect whether an Islamic terrorist will try to blow us up or not. If they cant' make up a modern excuse, they will bring out the Crusades, or the Inquisition or some other ancient canard and start the "cycle of violence" anew.

28 posted on 09/04/2006 12:13:40 AM PDT by Tamar1973 (Don't argue with an idiot; people watching may not be able to tell the difference.)
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To: Tamar1973
We helped the Afghan's kick the Soviets out of their country, what thanks did we get? The Taliban and 9-11.

The Taliban -- a group that had some roots in the US-funded resistance movements of the 1980s back when we felt that Islamists were infinitely more preferable than International Communism -- conquered the country just as the Soviets tried to do. You wouldn't suggest that after we helped France in WW1 that their rapid fall in WW2 was an anti-American act, even though it did make Hitler stronger.

Also, it's more of a semantic quibble, but Afghanistan the country was not responsible for the attacks of 9-11. The Taliban gave shelter to bin Ladin and al-Qa'ida operatives, certainly, but the attacks were planned, funded and carried out by Islamists from the Arab world.

When Clinton was CiC, we sent troops to Yugoslavia to protect Muslims from the Serbs, what did that get us in terms of gratitude from the Muslim world?! Nothing.

I believe most Bosniaks and Kossovars are very grateful. The 9-11 terrorists hell-bent on destroying us were not from Bosnia-Herzegovinia or Kossovo however. To suggest that Islam is so monolithic that a good deed in the Balkans should be received exactly the same way by Muslims the world over is a bit ridiculous. It would be like saying that the Emancipation Proclamation should have earned us the gratitude of the Ethiopian Empire.

My point is that when we are nice to Muslims, they hate us.

You're confusing "Muslim" and "terrorist".

Our polices do not affect whether an Islamic terrorist will try to blow us up or not.

Probably not. But "a Muslim" is not necessarily the same as "an Islamic terrorist".

32 posted on 09/04/2006 12:42:03 AM PDT by zimdog
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