Posted on 09/04/2006 4:51:22 AM PDT by LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget
Edited on 09/04/2006 5:46:47 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]
RIP.
So you're saying that coal miners, police officers, soldiers, pilots etc shouldn't have children?
"If I were guessing, I would say the ray was buried in the sand, with only it's eyes showing, and Steve swam over the top."
Radio News story just confirmed my guess in post #94 above.
Nice try.
You're ducking, thinking that by doing so you can avoid the question of whether or not this guy took a responsible adults position regarding his duties towards his kids.
As I pointed out up thread, that's common in today’s "me first" world.
I said he was irresponsible and derelict in his duty, and as a result, he left his children fatherless.
What's your position?
The barb penetrated just below the rib cage and at an upward angle right into his heart. It didn't have to slip between his ribs.
His director, who was on the boat, said the ray was buried in the sand and he swam over it.
Parable of the talents, remember that?
That it's better to be loved dearly by a father who lived his life to the fullest and died young, than live with a father who has a talent he has put on 'hold' for his family and didn't do what he was meant to do with his life.
He left his children more memories and a greater legacy than most on the planet. He spent more time and gave them more love in a short time than most kids get from a parent these days.
Again, Terri and he were soul mates, his children are left without a Dad, but he did the right thing and lived the 'right' life for who he was. I respect that tremendously.
His death is a loss for the planet. The man did wonders in getting public attention to our planet's wildlife and removing the fear people have of dangerous animals. He was all about living with animal life and he practiced what he preached. It is only ironic that such wildlife killed him but he always preached that wild animals are dangerous but nothing to fear, just respected.
Here....read it yourself.
http://www.news.com.au/story/0,23599,20349888-2,00.html
I don't doubt you...I read that account. But I just heard an interview with his director who stated the ray was buried in the sand. I'm just not sure which account actually happened.
To some people, flying an airplane is risky business. Some people believe that hiking in a National Park is risky business. Some people believe that going boating is risky business. To the people who understand and have studied these things, have a passion for them and have trained for emergency situations in their sleep, there is always a respect for these things but hardly a fear. To professionals in these arenas, taking their children along for the flight, the hike or the ride probably is less risky than the millions of people worldwide who play catch with their dogs or who allow their infants to grab hold of a pet's ear.
Because few people have been raised in the bush with reptiles as friends, most of us simply cannot relate to or appreciate the talent that Steve had since his earliest days. Steve *adored* his children and his wife. We all take risks but they are probably mostly relative to our education and training. And there are accidents in life no matter who we are.
A lot more deaths and serious injury than that, all be it, from fresh water stingrays.
In Colombia, health authorities register more than 2,000 cases of
freshwater stingray incidents annually. Over a five year period in one small local hospital there were eight deaths, 23 amputations of lower limbs, and 114 other cases where victims were unable to work.
...and devotees of diving programs on educational TV are often treated to images of scuba divers hitching a ride with some of the larger forms. This is a precarious activity at best, however, since the stingray's spine is in a perfect position to inflict injury to a human pressed against their dorsum. And if frightened, roughly handled, or captured, they react quickly by using their tail to place the sting in close contact with the object of their discomfort.
Contrary to popular ``nature documentaries," it is extremely hazardous to swim directly over, or in close proximity to, a stingray. A flick of the tail is apt to pierce a person's body, and a serious, even potentially fatal, situation is in the offing.
http://www.potamotrygon.de/fremdes/stingray%20article.htm
It felt threatened enough to whip its sting up. He was in the exact position to have it go through his heart. I'm wondering if he thought it would be great footage if he grabbed hold of it, and was not experienced enough to realize how the tail could whip, and how lethal a stinger that size could be.
No one has disputed his talents, so I’m not sure why you’ve brought that in.
That it's better to be loved dearly by a father who lived his life to the fullest and died young, than live with a father who has a talent he has put on 'hold' for his family and didn't do what he was meant to do with his life.
I did answer that: It’s part of the “me first” selfessness. As I pointed out, we are all less for it.
He left his children more memories and a greater legacy than most on the planet. He spent more time and gave them more love in a short time than most kids get from a parent these days.
Justifying bad behavior by worse behavior indicates the weakness of your position.
Again, Terri and he were soul mates, his children are left without a Dad, but he did the right thing and lived the 'right' life for who he was.
His talents obviously didn’t extend to being a good father.
He sure seemed to like to piss animals off, didn't he?
Ohfercryingoutloud. Of all the jerks I've seen lately, you take the cake. Some people get off the sofa occasionally, and sometimes they get hurt doing it. Good fathers and not. Without the movers and shakers and risk takers, the snooty safe people would know nothing about the world we live in, and I hope his kids will grow up to not only believe that, but live it. They aren't like you, and they've got a zoo to run :~).
"His talents obviously didn’t extend to being a good father"
I've never said this to anyone here on FR before...shoot, and time cleared my head and got the better of me. Your comment shows about as much brains as the crud in your belly button. What a heartless comment. Shame, shame.
There have been only 70 stingray fatalities worldwide ever. From 1979 to 1996, 304 people in the US died from being bitten by dogs, including 30 in California alone.
If you believe Irwin didn't take a "responsible adults position regarding his duties towards his kids", you also have to believe that coal miners, police officers, soldiers,and firemen, are not taking a responsible adult position regarding their duties towards their kids.
They all choose to do what they are doing and the odds of getting killed, for them, is greater than Irwin's odds of getting killed were.
The parable of the talents have nothing to do with talent. You can read it in the Bible in Mathew 25:14-28.
susie
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