Posted on 09/04/2006 11:55:15 AM PDT by Panerai
The creators of the South Park cartoon tell Jasper Gerard why no one and no faith is safe from their satirical bite Cartoons used to be so innocent. Jerry flying through the air on Tom’s tail counted as aviation terrorism. Now western civilisation can be condemned to burn in hell for a cartoon poking fun at Islam. It is not that slavering fundamentalists don’t have a sense of humour; they are furious precisely because they do see the joke — and see its power. Milan Kundera said laughter kills sex. How much more deadly is laughter to religion?
That we are having this discussion owes much to the creators of South Park, the American televisual adult cartoon that follows the exploits of small-town boys. Its creators, Trey Parker and Matt Stone, took what Monty Python did to Christianity and dared make Islam look equally absurd (and Tom Cruise, Scientology and every other faith and follower along the way).
The cartoons had stickers reading “censored” over the Prophet Muhammad after Stone and Parker’s producers told them: “We don’t want to get killed.” So the pair attacked Islamic intolerance in the most roundabout way.
“We had a picture,” says Stone evenly, “of Jesus s******g on the American flag.”
But before Christians strop, “Ah, they insult Christianity rather than Islam as they know we won’t blow them up”, the South Park guys say they were celebrating how in the West you can insult our most precious images — religion, the flag — because we can take it; we are secure. In the West the worst crime a cartoon can commit is not being terribly amusing. We do not gag gagsmiths.
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No, the insult Christianity because their financial backers despise Christianity and will protect them from any reprisals.
Like I said many times, they should do a Southpark where Cartman simply draws a picture of Mohammed, it doesn`t even have to be a funny or mocking picture of Mohammed he draws, just have him draw a portrait of Mohammed. Then have the muslims trying to kill him, but they kill Kenny instead (as Kenny always gets killed)...Then have Cartman say "Sh*t dude, these guys are crazy"...That`s all they need to do. It wouldn`t be satire, it wouldn`t even be comedy. It would simply be the truth.
In one episode, Santa was exhorting the crowd in South Park to remember Jesus on Christmas, because He gave His life so that others could live. They reached out to a crowd that needed to hear the message by putting it in terms that they wouldn't immediately switch off.
I'm not saying they're closet Christians, but they don't hate it. What they hate is hypocrisy, and they skewer it wherever they find it, even in the network that runs their show.
LOL! EXCELLENT!
What a crock! A good sense of humor is the key to great sex.
They tried something like that last year, and Comedy Central refused to show the image. The rest of the crap they showed after that was to show how hypocritical CC was, because it allowed a number of images offensive to Christians and Americans alike.
They hit John Travolta and Tom Cruise pretty hard in their episode about Scientology. But their flying Jesus is way over the line.
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Or a consequence of bad sex.
Brilliant cowards.
some people miss the point...
the dig was at the muslim world for being so childish and insecure that they will go ballistic over a cartoon. It's a very juvenille religion that has the mentality of a 12 year old boy.
One of the great things about America is we are (most of us) mature enough to not fly into a beheading rage when someone disagrees with us.
I think their point was the Christian West is mature enough to handle a joke, even a bad, tacky one.
Our religion and culture is strong enough to take it, on the other hand, you folks in the muslim world are so insecure in your culture and faith you can't even take a joke without flying into a Jr. High schoolboy rage about percieved slights or "dis-respect".
I thought it was fantastic, but others are free to disagree as we live in America...hehe.
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It`s unreal the hypocrisy. You want to really get ticked off, watch the movie "V for Vendetta".. I saw it a few nights ago and you would not believe the Christian bashing, the US bashing... The "oppressors" are these guys who identify themselves with a red cross, while Islam is all but treated like the greatest thing ever created. "The Koran is a beautiful book" (which was one quote in the movie) Then one guy gets arrested for having a copy of the Koran by the "oppressors". Homosexuality is treated like the ultimate love, conservatism must be destroyed, the government must be blown to bits, the US has destroyed itself and is now a third world country, it just goes on and on and on. It like the ultimate Bin Laden/hollywood liberal fantasy come true dream flick. Well "like" is a bad word to include. It IS the ultimate flick for these scum mutts.
"protect them from any reprisals."
Oh, yeah, those Christian reprisals. Uhmm. Wait, I've never seen one.
I have this bridge you might be interested in...
Wait, I'm channeling O.C.-Old Cracker. Yes. Yes, I sense his vibe...he says, "The world is going to hell and South Park is the Pied Piper of Porn I hate."
No...wait...
or, wait a minute, either that or he said, "I just took a helluva dump in the park and I seen some of that delicious sweet corn I ate.
I lost it. I feel faint.
The Fabulist and the AnimalsA WISE and illustrious Writer of Fables was visiting a travelling menagerie with a view to collecting literary materials. As he was passing near the Elephant, that animal said:
“How sad that so justly famous a satirist should mar his work by ridicule of people with long noses — who are the salt of the earth!”
The Kangaroo said:
“I do so enjoy that great man’s censure of the ridiculous — particularly his attacks on the Proboscidae; but, alas! he has no reverence for the Marsupials, and laughs at our way of carrying our young in a pouch.”
The Camel said:
“If he would only respect the sacred Hump, he would be faultless. As it is, I cannot permit his fables to be read in the presence of my family.”
The Ostrich, seeing his approach, thrust her head in the straw, saying:
“If I do not conceal myself, he may be reminded to write something disagreeable about my lack of a crest or my appetite for scrap-iron; and although he is inexpressibly brilliant when he devotes himself to censure of folly and greed, his dulness is matchless when he transcends the limits of legitimate comment.”
“That,” said the Buzzard to his mate, “is the distinguished author of that glorious fable, ‘The Ostrich and the Keg of Raw Nails.’ I regret to add, that he wrote, also, ‘The Buzzard’s Feast,’ in which a carrion diet is contumeliously disparaged. A carrion diet is the foundation of sound health. If nothing else but corpses were eaten, death would be unknown.”
Seeing an attendant approaching, the wise and illustrious Writer of Fables passed out of the tent and mingled with the crowd. It was afterward discovered that he had crept in under the canvas without paying.
.— Ambrose Bierce, Fantastic Fables.
But they've done more to skewer the left than dozens of more conservative voices.
I saw "V"..probably the worst movie I have seen in several years.
I don't mind politics in movies, but V was so over the top even my liberal friends thought it was pathetic.
Even the V cartoon from the 80s had more depth and less "hammer over the head" political messages.
Hey ES, which one is OC again?
I recently started watching South Park and find it hilarious.
I see your links to sites where I can download episodes. Can you recommend the best one and also a good place to start?
You hit the nail on the head!
I agree that humor has a huge impact on the way the world can be viewed. Im a dennis miller, south park, and jon stewart fan respectively just for the enjoyment i get at politicians and crazy jihadists' expense.
Featuring Mohamad (and Krisna and Budda and Joseph Smith along with SP regular Jesus; I'm missing one, Confushus?) before it was a big stinking deal.
The episode was shown in syndication about 3 weeks after CC wussed out on SP family guy part 2.
Who cares what these scumbags think?America should greatly step up trashing islam.These producers are just another worthless minority,small in number,have no power,so they can't do a da*n thing about it.
My only disagreement is I flushed Jon Stewart from my fave lineup when he betrayed his heartfelt testimony shortly after 9/11 by reverting to a snide liberal ninny. I actually had the opportunity and distinct pleasure of being in the Dennis Miller Show audience while on vacation in LA. I also attended a taping of Win Ben Stein's Money a while back...two of my favorite entertainers/commentators. Being able to participate was a hoot. I think Steven Colbert is funnier than Stewart anyway. Colbert always has a hook, Stewart is just snide and predictably cynical.
What gets me about that movie is Natalie Portman is an Israeli. If she`s so eager to star in pro-Islamic movies that glorify terrorism, ones that make the US and England out to be completely evil, why doesn`t she just talk to Al-Qaeda or Hezbollah? I`m sure Hamas, Hezbollah, and Al-Qaeda would be glad to include somes lines for her to speak in their next beheading video.
The only South Park I know is in Colorado. We owned property there back in the 1970s.
Of those I've listed, I would suggest either South Park Complete or MrTwig. I'm deleting Torrentspy. And perhaps some other folks here have some alternate sites to suggest.
I miss Old Cracker and his senile rants against South Park.
South Park Rules BUMP
bring the hate!!!
Just because you don't understand the jokes doesn't mean you should hate the show, but bring the hate anyway!!!
South Park Christian bump.
That depends on when the laughter starts
Theres some brilliant comedy writing. Maybe he can go pee-pee next. stop me. the comedy is just too intense. laughter..laughter..laughter.
There are dozens of sites, because Parker and Stone have said it's okay. Most of the sites offer a little intro advertising a local band or something, to pay them back for their bandwidth. I forgot which one I used (.get, maybe?), but I downloaded the last six seasons -- a season at .rm resolution will fit on a CD. The earlier episodes are encoded pretty badly, but still watchable.
This is one of those shows that's gotten better as it's gone along. The last three or four seasons have been brilliant.
Unfortunately, I saw it. I feel sad for America. Some fifth column Americans are now OPENLY embracing terrorism (for money and to save their own necks). What a bunch of cowards.
Is this the site:
http://www.southparkx.net/episodes/season-10
One of the other episodes in which Jesus is a main character is one where he is challenged to a fight by Satan. Everybody in town is betting against Jesus. In the end Satan loses and it turns out Satan was the only person betting on Jesus to win.
They get off on it, that is the only explanation I can come up with. It doesn`t matter if it makes sense or not or whether it puts the lives of millions in danger, all that matters is that they get off on it. Like pedophiles or serial killers, they don`t care what the result is as long as they get off.
LOL!! Excellent idea! Let me try.......
Q. What`s the difference between Muslims in a tent and a porcupine?
A. With a porcupine, the pricks are on the outside.
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