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Once again, we learn appeasement doesn't work
Chicago Sun-Times ^ | 9/4/06 | Mary Laney

Posted on 09/04/2006 12:56:04 PM PDT by frankjr

We are at war. Our country is on an elevated security alert. Islamofascists are poised to hurt us, kill us and kill those they call infidels...Under President Bush, the nation now has the tools to intercept the international conversations of those who, for years, have been plotting heinous ways to kill Americans and others around the world. We also have a system of tracing international monies that would fund terrorist activities.

Yet there are those in this nation -- in the Senate, the ACLU, the far left -- who have opposed these protective measures. They've stated that the Patriot Act infringes on our right to privacy. They've stated that we should rely on diplomacy, more talks, more meetings and more appeasement of these rabid enemies.

Jimmy Carter was president when our embassy was ambushed by Muslim terrorists. Instead of taking action immediately, he wrote a letter to the Ayatollah Khomeini telling the ayatollah that the action would not harm relations with America.

That was the beginning of the strengthening of Islamofascism. America was perceived as weak. The ayatollah stated that America was a paper tiger without a bite. How appropriate to hear last week that Carter had expressed an interest in meeting with former Iranian President Mohammad Khatami when he visited Chicago over the weekend.

As you read this and rest on this Labor Day, do not forget that thousands of miles away, in the backwaters of the world, in Iraq and Afghanistan, there stand American men and women who are not resting. Instead, they are standing at the barricades, fighting the Islamofascists over there so that we will not have to meet them here, in our streets.

Before you grill that burger, stop for a moment and say a prayer for them.

(Excerpt) Read more at suntimes.com ...


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1 posted on 09/04/2006 12:56:06 PM PDT by frankjr
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To: frankjr

Dang, how did THIS make it into the MSM? The editors must have been on vacation.


2 posted on 09/04/2006 12:56:59 PM PDT by dirtboy (This tagline has been photoshopped)
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To: dirtboy

Much as I'm surprised to see it, I got a quibble with it; namely you don't have to be soft on terror to be jealous of your privacy.


3 posted on 09/04/2006 1:00:11 PM PDT by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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later read


4 posted on 09/04/2006 1:01:07 PM PDT by Mo1 (Think about it .. A Speaker Nancy Pelosi could be 2 seats away from being President)
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To: Oberon
I got a quibble with it; namely you don't have to be soft on terror to be jealous of your privacy.

Yes you do.. You just don't know it.

5 posted on 09/04/2006 1:11:36 PM PDT by Common Tator
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To: Common Tator
Oh really?

To my mind, privacy rights were as important to the Founders as the rights to property, due process, equal treatment under the law, free speech, free worship, arms, and the vote.

These rights are granted us by God, and I have not forgotten how precious they are. If we cede any one of them to goverment in the name of safety, we will one day find that, when we want it back, it won't be given back to us.

And that's true whether some Semtex-wearing camel jockey is trying to blow me up or not.

Now, if you would, please explain to me why I'm soft on terror.

6 posted on 09/04/2006 1:17:49 PM PDT by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: frankjr
The obligatory reminder...

7 posted on 09/04/2006 1:18:16 PM PDT by NewLand (Posting against liberalism since the 20th century!)
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To: frankjr

8 posted on 09/04/2006 1:19:59 PM PDT by Vaquero ("An armed society is a polite society" Robert A. Heinlein)
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To: frankjr

Amen!


9 posted on 09/04/2006 1:25:20 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar ((Democrats have never found a fight they couldn't run from...Ann Coulter))
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To: Oberon
The issue right now is in how do we as a society live in a time of war? Do we try and pretend that people mean us no harm or do we wake up to the reality that you have a choice, lose some form of freedoms so someone else doesn't end your life? It might seem an abstract concept but activities like searches at airports, sporting events and even train stations will wind up saving someone's life. Listening to a telephone conversation or tracing a money trail can lead us to a bunch of Muzzies plotting their way to paradise.

How hard do those entrusted with protecting our security as a nation have to work in order not to piss off people who want their rights but also want to be safe? I agree that a police state is not the answer but in a time of war the rules have to change.
10 posted on 09/04/2006 1:26:26 PM PDT by misterrob
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To: Common Tator

"If you have done nothing wrong, comrade, you have nothing to fear."

- Lavrenti Beria, head of the NKVD under Joseph Stalin, 1899-1953
11 posted on 09/04/2006 1:29:24 PM PDT by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: misterrob
The issue right now is in how do we as a society live in a time of war?

And when will the war end? Or will it, ever?

12 posted on 09/04/2006 1:30:28 PM PDT by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: Oberon

I am surprised to see this in the Sun Times. A good read in any case.


13 posted on 09/04/2006 1:31:42 PM PDT by bradthebuilder (Iran....we still owe you for the emabassy and the barracks)
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To: bradthebuilder

I'll agree with you there.


14 posted on 09/04/2006 1:33:12 PM PDT by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: frankjr

I don't think the right word is "learn." "Learn" implies that you accepted the lesson. Clearly we have not.


15 posted on 09/04/2006 1:33:52 PM PDT by Brilliant
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To: Oberon

Actually, Beria responded to a foreigner's observing that innocent people were arrested as often as the guilty, thus:

"Of course we arrest the innocent!! If we arrested only the guilty, the innocent would have nothing to fear!"


16 posted on 09/04/2006 1:38:42 PM PDT by elcid1970 (ve)
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To: elcid1970
Doubtless he said that too. Solzhenitsyn attributed my former quote to Beria as well, however, in The Gulag Archipelago.
17 posted on 09/04/2006 1:40:21 PM PDT by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: frankjr

Not a Chitown resident. Is the Chicago Sun-Times considered a liberal paper?

Whenever I see an article like this in a liberal newspaper, I suspect that the editors are really getting worried about their loss of subscribers and are throwing conservatives a bone by, once in a while, publishing a patriotic pro-America editorial.


18 posted on 09/04/2006 1:48:28 PM PDT by Signalman
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To: frankjr; All
The Religion Of Pieces

5 Minute Video

Warning: Graphic Content

19 posted on 09/04/2006 1:58:58 PM PDT by lmr ("The answers to life don't involve complex solutions." -Del Riley 2006)
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To: frankjr
Jimmy Carter and friends should take lessons on defeating terrorists from The Kid from Brooklyn (hilarious video but lots of profanity).

The Kid from Brooklyn at YouTube.com ...

20 posted on 09/04/2006 2:28:01 PM PDT by gotribe (It's not a religion.)
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