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How the Feminists’ “War against Boys” Paved the Way for Islam
Brussels Journal ^ | 4 Sept. 06 | Fjordman

Posted on 09/05/2006 12:03:24 AM PDT by spkpls4

Another possibility is that Western feminists fail to confront Muslim immigration for ideological reasons. Many of them are silent on Islamic oppression of women because they have also embraced “Third-Worldism” and anti-Western sentiments. I see some evidence in support of this thesis.

American writer Phyllis Chesler has sharply criticized her sisters in books such as The Death of Feminism. She feels that too many feminists have abandoned their commitment to freedom and “become cowardly herd animals and grim totalitarian thinkers,” thus failing to confront Islamic terrorism. She paints a portrait of current U.S. University campuses as steeped in “a new and diabolical McCarthyism” spearheaded by leftist rhetoric.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: archiebunker; culturewars; dingbats; education; feminazi; feminazis; feminis6s; feminism; feminists; islam; meathead; pc; phyllischesler; stifleyerself; waragainstboys; wot
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I'm glad I'm not a feminist.
1 posted on 09/05/2006 12:03:26 AM PDT by spkpls4
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To: spkpls4
I'm a male retrosexual and anti-feminazi.

(No more Olmert! No more Kadima! No more Oslo! )

2 posted on 09/05/2006 12:12:56 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: spkpls4
Is there something about submission that is more appealing to some women than it is to most men? Do women yield more easily to power?

Yes, and what's more, we didn't have these problems back in the days when the women wore corsets. If we could get them back into corsets, things would improve considerably. Women enjoy the feeling of being restrained, and the corset was an ideal invention in that regard.

3 posted on 09/05/2006 12:21:30 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: spkpls4

This is right on the money:

"If all oppression comes from Western men, it becomes logical to try weakening them as much as possible. If you do, a paradise of peace and equality awaits us at the other side of the rainbow. Well congratulations to Western European women. You’ve succeeded in harassing and ridiculing your own sons into suppressing many of their masculine instincts. To your surprise, you didn’t enter a feminist Nirvana, but paved the way for an unfolding Islamic hell."


4 posted on 09/05/2006 12:33:36 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: FreedomPoster
In the UK some feminists are as blind as can be about Islam. They seem to take the improbable (nay impossible) view that like charity workers they are there to help Islam liberate itself. Meanwhile they tolerate and condone the viscous demeaning of women. Strange.

Incidentally I'm all for the corset defense.
5 posted on 09/05/2006 12:53:22 AM PDT by vimto (Blighty Awaken!)
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To: spkpls4; All

The words of my favorite contemporary British author are remarkably appropriate. They're taken from an essay (which I posted here some time ago) that David Brooks of the NYT cited as the "best journal article of 2004".

Having lived in various Muslim societies he explained the contradiction noted in the post as follows:

"Here, for once, are instances of unadulterated female victimhood; yet the silence of the feminists is deafening. When two pieties - feminism and multi-culturalism - come into conflict, the only way of preserving both is an indecent silence".


6 posted on 09/05/2006 1:19:25 AM PDT by T.L.Sink
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To: spkpls4
Are women more stupid and less enlightened than men, since they in such great numbers are paving the way for their own submission? He comes up with an equally provocative answer: “When women are paving the way for sharia, this is presumably because women want sharia.” They don’t want freedom because they feel attracted to subservience and subjugation.

bingo

7 posted on 09/05/2006 1:24:33 AM PDT by x_plus_one (No one ever went broke underestimating the intelligence of the American Public)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham; vimto; spkpls4; goldstategop; FreedomPoster
It's easy to see that all of this corset talk is going to get you guys into a lot of trouble with the straitlaced. I, for one, am staying away from such talk...


8 posted on 09/05/2006 1:26:44 AM PDT by snarks_when_bored
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To: snarks_when_bored
Yeah....the more feminine the woman, the more likeable I find her. Its only human nature.

(No more Olmert! No more Kadima! No more Oslo! )

9 posted on 09/05/2006 1:44:44 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: spkpls4

fjordman BUMP! One of the most thought-provoking writers on the planet. Thanks very much for posting.


10 posted on 09/05/2006 2:21:16 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: spkpls4

"Women are more naïve, and less willing to rationally think through the long-term consequences of avoiding confrontation or dealing with unpleasant realities now."

Just insert liberals for women here. It plays all the way down the line, from gay marrage to social security to the War on Terror to economic policy.

How many times have we seen the left completely unwilling to even approach these problems from a long-term perspective???

How that marriage is undermined, how that the notion of marriage existing between a man and a woman as a timeless and pancultural, pangeneral stable system of raising offspring from generaton to generation.

How that there is no looming social security disaster but how we are threatening old people who just want to retire.

How that what is happening in the Middle East is our own doing and that somehow if we are nice and give pretty presents that everything will be okay.

How long-term economic progress is scrapped to feed the hangers-ons who refuse to care for themselves, only to encourage more people to become hangers-on.

This article is spot-on. I have long said that liberals are lacking an ounce of testosterone in their body (either by birth or because it was sucked out of them), and this one pretty much takes the same tack.

There is no question a place for women in all of this, but it is a place. One with boundaries. Just as men exist with boundaries. Failure to recognize this and to take one's role in society has disastrous consequences, as we are seeing today.


11 posted on 09/05/2006 2:23:17 AM PDT by CheyennePress
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To: spkpls4

What a great article.


12 posted on 09/05/2006 2:29:59 AM PDT by paudio (Universal Human Rights and Multiculturalism: Liberals want to have cake and eat it too!)
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To: spkpls4

And - If men are going to put down Islam, women are going to have to get behind them. Most men will do almost anything for a woman.


13 posted on 09/05/2006 2:56:41 AM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (Religion of peace my arss - We need a maintenance Crusade)
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To: spkpls4
This article is a keeper. It is a brilliant, comprehensive, resourceful and truthful article about the deleterious effects of radical feminism, and yes, feminism lite.

In psychiatry, female patients are seen more frequently with self-inflicted wounds or self-destructive behaviour than men, who tend to direct their aggression outwards. It is also a well-known fact that many women blame themselves for abusive husbands, and make excuses for their abusers’ behavior. Has the West adopted some of the negative traits of the female psyche? The newly feminized West gets attacked and assaulted by the Arab and Islamic world, and continues to blame itself, while at the same time be fascinated by its abusers. It is thus behaving in the same way as a self-loathing woman towards an abusive man.

14 posted on 09/05/2006 3:12:46 AM PDT by Alia
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To: BelegStrongbow; familyop

ping to a superb analysis and read.


15 posted on 09/05/2006 3:35:18 AM PDT by Alia
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To: Alia

Thanks for a great ping. Good to see common sense emanating from at least one person in Belgium.

"Totalitarian feminists in Norway are threatening to shut down private companies that refuse to recruit at least 40 percent women to their boards by 2007, a Soviet-style regulation of the economy in the name of gender equality."

Also nice to see communists come in for a good thwacking. Sadly, this isn't quite the right place to hit them. I've been going on about fascism a lot lately and this is a prime example of fascist behavior. A communist wouldn't require gender equity on the board, they'd do away with the corporate board and replace them with government functionaries. It's the fascist way to tell someone they can have property but then need guidance on how to use it.


16 posted on 09/05/2006 3:48:20 AM PDT by BelegStrongbow (www.stjosephssanford.org)
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To: spkpls4

What the heck? Feminism is hardly a mainstream movement. What it does or believes is largely irrelevant!


17 posted on 09/05/2006 3:49:16 AM PDT by ketelone
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To: spkpls4

The silence of the feminists and libs on Islams treatment of women has been deafening.


18 posted on 09/05/2006 4:10:35 AM PDT by driftdiver
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To: All

bump

no-more girly men


19 posted on 09/05/2006 4:18:27 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: BelegStrongbow
A communist wouldn't require gender equity on the board, they'd do away with the corporate board and replace them with government functionaries

This has already been accomplished in "feminist world"; sensible feminists were silenced many years ago for not utter "heil!" Those who are fascists wearing feminist "clothes" have been placed into power in courtrooms, classrooms, business and private entity heirarchies. They run "sensitivity" seminars and plot "multi-culti" madness. And yet they hide under "feminism". Feminism was far too easy to manipulate by those with a fascist ideology. The feminists, from the get go, have been telling everyone what to think, what to eat, what to believe. It is here that we find the article in this thread, IMO, most illuminating. It's about feminism as the most ready and adaptable vehicle for fascists and terrorists. It is true.

20 posted on 09/05/2006 4:29:50 AM PDT by Alia
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To: spkpls4

Excellent piece- thanks for posting..


21 posted on 09/05/2006 4:34:40 AM PDT by SE Mom (Proud mom of an Iraq war combat vet-prayers for the kidnapped Israeli Soldiers)
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To: spkpls4

Radical feminism is a branch of marxism. It views radical islamic fascism as a useful tool in the process of overthrowing the civil order and establishing a communist paradise.


22 posted on 09/05/2006 4:35:25 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (Beware the Leftist Marxist-Islamist Alliance. They all want us dead.)
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To: spkpls4
Feminists did not pave the way for Islam, they have been a woman beating death cult for a lot longer time than Feminists existed.

OK, Feminist help enable terrorists today like the other Democrats... Not news IMO.
23 posted on 09/05/2006 4:37:39 AM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: BelegStrongbow

When highlighting the differences between communists and fascists, it is worthwhile to review the similarities.

See the 3nd quote on my FR profile page, the two paragraph one from Hayek.


24 posted on 09/05/2006 4:48:11 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: ketelone; Alia

I don't agree that is true at all, unfortunately. See Alia's #20. Also see my previous post.

They have a huge impact, far beyond their numbers and acceptance in the the general populace, due to their being embedded in the media and academe. They are front and center in pushing what has been termed Cultural Marxism, but as this thread's discussion highlights, might better be called Cultural Fascism.


25 posted on 09/05/2006 4:52:03 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: ketelone
What the heck? Feminism is hardly a mainstream movement. What it does or believes is largely irrelevant!
It is as much or as little a mainstream movement as are liberalism and leftism. Sure, only a few people actually subscribe to the whole nonsense, but they are influential people: College professors, journalists, Democrat leaders. Most women aren't feminists? That's nice, but Hillary unfortunately is one. And I fear that the latter is more important.
26 posted on 09/05/2006 4:54:51 AM PDT by cartan
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

"Women enjoy the feeling of being restrained..."

Uh oh, now you stepped in it...


27 posted on 09/05/2006 5:03:55 AM PDT by butternut_squash_bisque (The recipe's at my FR HomePage. Try it!)
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To: FreedomPoster

Can't recall the exact title but an ex-Mossad agent wrtote a book titled (paraphrase) "Shoot the Women First". The point being that female terrortists were so far beyond the pale of their genetic and cultural norms (the caring sharing maternal instincts ) that they were more deadly, more fierce and more cunning than the men.


28 posted on 09/05/2006 5:04:30 AM PDT by the anti-mahdi
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To: snarks_when_bored

Gorgeous, just gorgeous...


29 posted on 09/05/2006 5:05:44 AM PDT by butternut_squash_bisque (The recipe's at my FR HomePage. Try it!)
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To: Alia

In Canada we can see female fascism at work.

How many have been drawn and quartered by the castrated poodles in the Canadian courts for preaching against the Marxist orthodoxy?


30 posted on 09/05/2006 5:15:43 AM PDT by sergeantdave (Gov. Jennifer Granholm's campaign slogan: Four more years of Uncle Joe and Uncle Ho)
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To: ketelone
I rarely use this word as it is incorrectly thrown about by those who are typically my opponents, but honestly that is a very ignorant remark
In point of fact, most Americans consider themselves "feminists" to some degree. It has become the accepted truth in every are of our society. Walk through them: Academia, the Military, the Church, private industry, government, EVERYTHING has been transformed to accomodate the tyrannical demands of fascist feminist.
Do you not watch television? On a daily basis I see ridiculous examples of the perverse notion that "a woman can do anything a man can do" nonsense on full display.
On June 6th, the local CBS affiliate showed a diminutive police "officer" ( remember "Policeman", "Fireman" ?) being swatted away by an enormous thug a regular Joe had to come to her aid, and he without a weapon!
Feminism was 'mainstreamed" a while back and the world you are living in has been blinded by it, sort of like the result of syphilis.
31 posted on 09/05/2006 5:17:36 AM PDT by Bainbridge
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To: spkpls4

But, but....I thought they were "fierce, feminists and in your face!"


32 posted on 09/05/2006 5:20:39 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: driftdiver

We replace the soccer mom

with the security mom

what we really need is

MOTHERS who raise boys to REAL MEN.

The goal of feminists (meaning democrats) is to raise metrosexuals.


33 posted on 09/05/2006 5:23:03 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: spkpls4
A lot of controversial material here - the author could get stripped of his EU citizenship for having incorrect opinions. ;)

Western (pseudo-)intellectuals aren't yet ready to face the concepts outlined in the article. It will take three or four glowing, radioactive holes where cities used to be before the key players begin to understand where they have led society.

34 posted on 09/05/2006 5:35:48 AM PDT by Mr. Jeeves ("When the government is invasive, the people are wanting." -- Tao Te Ching)
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To: longtermmemmory

The numbers are on our side, over the long haul.

Families rearing real men have more kids than families headed by feminazis.


35 posted on 09/05/2006 5:39:59 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Guns themselves are fairly robust; their chief enemies are rust and politicians) (NRA)
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To: FreedomPoster

However they have the public schools.


36 posted on 09/05/2006 5:42:51 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Mr. Jeeves
Do not think they will ever admit that it was there fault.
After all they all knew that the Soviet Union was bad all along they were just, um , well ,you know......
37 posted on 09/05/2006 5:59:17 AM PDT by Bainbridge
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To: spkpls4

Although I'd far, far rather the Scandinavians return to the faith of the undivided Church embraced by St. Olaf Haraldson, this article makes me for the first, and I hope only, time feel some sympathy for the Norwegian and Swedish youth who have fallen into neo-paganism, even of the variety that spawns 'death metal' rock bands.


38 posted on 09/05/2006 6:06:31 AM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: spkpls4
Although I believe femi-Nazis are a much more dangerous crowd than actual Nazis, I'm quite sure I don't buy into the author's thesis.  Islam was warring it's way across the eastern hemisphere 1600 years ago.

The only major political party in Norway that has voiced any serious opposition to the madness of Muslim immigration is the rightwing Progress Party. This is a party which receives about two thirds or even 70% male votes. At the opposite end of the scale we have the Socialist Left party, with two thirds or 70% female votes.

I'm sure this is quite an accurate statement, but it's truth doesn't necessarily say squat about the cause of the rise of Islam.

I awakened at sunrise this morning.  It doesn't mean I'm the cause of the sun rising.


39 posted on 09/05/2006 6:59:35 AM PDT by HawaiianGecko (Timing has a lot to do with the outcome of a rain dance.)
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To: spkpls4

Feminazi's are cute.


40 posted on 09/05/2006 7:00:50 AM PDT by Vision (God did not give us a spirit of timidity, but a spirit of power, love and self-discipline 2Timothy1)
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To: spkpls4

This is one of the best articles I have read on the subject of "why?"


41 posted on 09/05/2006 7:44:19 AM PDT by Gritty (The difference between women’s rights and women’s illusions is a Smith and Wesson-Fjordman)
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To: Gritty

I don't post very often, but sometimes I hit "gold". This is one of those times.


42 posted on 09/05/2006 7:45:42 AM PDT by spkpls4 (Jeremiah 29:11)
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To: goldstategop

retrosexual..heh that's a good one


43 posted on 09/05/2006 7:49:32 AM PDT by visualops (artlife.us)
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To: spkpls4
"The catch with a too soft society is that it is unsustainable. It will get squashed as soon as it is confronted by more traditional, aggressive ones."

I've always thought this was self-evidnt.

44 posted on 09/05/2006 8:28:55 AM PDT by Enterprise (Let's not enforce laws that are already on the books, let's just write new laws we won't enforce.)
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To: Mr Ramsbotham
"Is there something about submission that is more appealing to some women than it is to most men? Do women yield more easily to power?"

This explains, then and now, the passionate defense of Clinton by feminists.

45 posted on 09/05/2006 8:30:26 AM PDT by Enterprise (Let's not enforce laws that are already on the books, let's just write new laws we won't enforce.)
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To: butternut_squash_bisque
Uh oh, now you stepped in it....

Let 'em come and get me.

46 posted on 09/05/2006 10:21:00 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: paudio
What a great article.

Mind blowingly good. I had to read it twice just to really savor it the second time through.

47 posted on 09/05/2006 11:39:21 AM PDT by riri
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

I got your back!


48 posted on 09/05/2006 12:06:08 PM PDT by butternut_squash_bisque (The recipe's at my FR HomePage. Try it!)
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To: sergeantdave
... and out of Canada, was I recommended, in the early 90s, to a book "The War Against the Family" from a fellow Canadian fighting the good fight.

I know a great deal about Canada, and Canadians. It was far easier for feminism to advance in Canada, IMHO, due "God Save the Queen"ism, and on the east coast, the DeGaul influence of France. My great uncles, WWI vets, forsaw the oppression and downfall of Canada many years ago when Universal "Healthcare" (socialized healthcare) was enacted.

Canada will rise again. Canada, despite the rumblings of fascist appeasers, has been our strong ally in this world-wide good fight. Blessings to you, Canada.

49 posted on 09/05/2006 2:58:37 PM PDT by Alia
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To: vimto
"In the UK some feminists are as blind as can be about Islam. They seem to take the improbable (nay impossible) view that like charity workers they are there to help Islam liberate itself. Meanwhile they tolerate and condone the viscous demeaning of women. Strange."

Maybe some of the UK feminists identity with the bombers among their sisters of the 1800s. ...true! While feminists marched in the streets and disrupted the meetings of others in the USA, some British feminists resorted to terrorist bombings. Granted, the victimology feminists in the USA no doubt sympathized with their tactics.
50 posted on 09/07/2006 2:56:59 PM PDT by familyop (Essayons)
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