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Haleigh Poutre Almost Victim of Euthanasia, Now Making Good Progress
Life News ^ | September 4, 2006 | Steven Ertelt

Posted on 09/05/2006 4:45:45 AM PDT by 8mmMauser

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To: floriduh voter

McCollum will have lots of cleaning up to do if he becomes the new AG.


361 posted on 09/15/2006 2:30:24 PM PDT by darkangel82 (Higher visibility leads to greater zottability.)
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To: 8mmMauser; Lesforlife; amdgmary; Sun; BykrBayb; T'wit; Dante3
Cruise's cult does follow people.

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2006/09/brad-greys-scientology-scare.php

362 posted on 09/15/2006 2:31:07 PM PDT by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org or Join Terri's Legacy List Contact: 8mmmauser)
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To: darkangel82
McCollum has a decision to make... Will he clean house or let things continue to fester? Crist didn't do a thing except attack the phone company which was phoney cuz his friend owned the phone company. Crist didn't have the skill as an attorney or a prosecutor to be attorney general. We were hoodwinked so the state is a big mess.

If we have a dem governor, McCollum may decide to rat out the bad people to save the state. Right now we are experiencing organized chaos. I don't wish for it to be any less organized.

363 posted on 09/15/2006 2:34:29 PM PDT by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org or Join Terri's Legacy List Contact: 8mmmauser)
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To: shhrubbery!

The devaluing of life is evident in other areas, often in subtle ways. When there is a car accident during rush hour, what does everybody think? "I hope nobody was badly hurt, or killed." If that's what everybody's thinking, why do the tv and radio reports focus on the effect it will have on commuters, and never mention what anyone who cares about life is worried about? Children are beaten to death by their parents every day, and usually nobody cares. Unless there's something else about the case they think is important. Like a celebrity, or a mystery with lots of twists and turns. There's been a rash of homeless people being beaten to death, and most people won't even hear about it. Most of those that do hear about it, won't pay any attention. I can't drive for 15 minutes without seeing at least one driver who completely disregards every life on the road in his quest to win the race. If an animal runs into traffic, many drivers are more apt to aim for it than try to avoid it. Most people don't bother pulling over for emergency vehicles anymore. They don't want to be slowed down, just to save some stranger's life. We shouldn't be surprised that people want inconvenient people to just stop existing, as though it has nothing to do with life and death.


364 posted on 09/15/2006 3:00:19 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Be careful what you ask for, and even more careful what you demand. Þ)
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To: ahayes

Read the article I linked to in post #316. I realize if you wait until the body is cold, it's too late to harvest the organs. But couldn't we at least wait until they're dead before harvesting the organs?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1695656/posts?page=316#316


365 posted on 09/15/2006 3:07:26 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Be careful what you ask for, and even more careful what you demand. Þ)
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To: ahayes

It doesn't mean that they're not in cahoots.

Besides, too often the family is put under tremendous pressure to do that, or in some cases the state takes over. Look at Terri. She was murdered, even though they couldn't use her organs cause of the starvation and dehydration.


366 posted on 09/15/2006 3:10:20 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: ahayes

Or the family is outright lied to about the outcome of the patient.


367 posted on 09/15/2006 3:10:47 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: BykrBayb
They wait until brain death. The leave the body on a heart and lung machine ("life support") while the organs are removed because if oxygenated blood flow stops while the organ is still warm, the tissue will die. So no, we can't wait and never have.
368 posted on 09/15/2006 3:12:30 PM PDT by ahayes (My strength is as the strength of ten because my heart is pure.)
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To: ahayes

How many organ donors would there be, if everyone knew the organs are taken while the patient is still alive? This man's organs were taken while he was in a medically induced coma. He wasn't dead yet. He died AFTER his organs were removed.


369 posted on 09/15/2006 3:15:52 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Be careful what you ask for, and even more careful what you demand. Þ)
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To: BykrBayb

He would have been placed in a coma due to brain damage in an attempt to prevent deterioration. Apparently this was ineffective. His family approved removal from life support and organ donation. That was their decision to make, and someone else in the same situation is free to make a different decision.


370 posted on 09/15/2006 3:23:32 PM PDT by ahayes (My strength is as the strength of ten because my heart is pure.)
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To: ahayes

Why dodge the issue? The fact is, he was alive when they took his organs. How does his family, or anyone else, have the right to decide such a thing?


371 posted on 09/15/2006 3:44:22 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Be careful what you ask for, and even more careful what you demand. Þ)
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To: BykrBayb

He would be dead a minute later in either case.


372 posted on 09/15/2006 3:46:42 PM PDT by ahayes (My strength is as the strength of ten because my heart is pure.)
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To: ahayes

So would you.


373 posted on 09/15/2006 3:50:26 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Be careful what you ask for, and even more careful what you demand. Þ)
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To: BykrBayb

Good thing I'm an organ donor.


374 posted on 09/15/2006 3:51:00 PM PDT by ahayes (My strength is as the strength of ten because my heart is pure.)
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To: ahayes

Why wait?


375 posted on 09/15/2006 3:51:29 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Be careful what you ask for, and even more careful what you demand. Þ)
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To: BykrBayb

Your compassion awes me.


376 posted on 09/15/2006 3:52:22 PM PDT by ahayes (My strength is as the strength of ten because my heart is pure.)
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To: ahayes

I have more compassion for you than you have for disabled people. I was just trying to get you to imagine what it would be like if you were the patient. You seem to have no problem understanding that it would be wrong to take your organs while you're still using them. But you think it's just hunky dorey to take someone else's organs while they're still using them. It's completely different when it's you, huh?


377 posted on 09/15/2006 3:54:50 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Be careful what you ask for, and even more careful what you demand. Þ)
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To: BykrBayb

As I said, it's not different for me. If I'm unconscious on life support and my family decides to take me off life support, I hope they will donate my organs so that I might help someone else in my death.


378 posted on 09/15/2006 3:59:17 PM PDT by ahayes (My strength is as the strength of ten because my heart is pure.)
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To: ahayes

Bull. You don't want to give up your organs while you're still using them, or you wouldn't gotten upset over the suggestion. But you sure want others to give up their organs while they're still using them.


379 posted on 09/15/2006 4:02:42 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Be careful what you ask for, and even more careful what you demand. Þ)
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To: BykrBayb

Where did I get upset over the suggestion? Are you referring to the post where you snidely suggested I go commit suicide? Because there I was annoyed at your audacity.


380 posted on 09/15/2006 4:03:55 PM PDT by ahayes (My strength is as the strength of ten because my heart is pure.)
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