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Haleigh Poutre Almost Victim of Euthanasia, Now Making Good Progress
Life News ^ | September 4, 2006 | Steven Ertelt

Posted on 09/05/2006 4:45:45 AM PDT by 8mmMauser

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The Terri Factor...a feeble attempt to besmirch a candidate: (Nebraska)

Voters in the 1st Congressional District should send Republican Rep. Jeff Fortenberry back to Washington for a second term.

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A response:

econteach wrote on October 30, 2006 4:26 PM:

"You forgot an important reason why someone ought NOT vote for Fortenberry. Terry Schiavo. Mr. Fortenberry voted with the pack that wanted to interfere with the most sacred commitment - a marriage and say they knew better than the husband what the wife wanted. The Supreme Court slapped Congress back to their side of the Constitution for that. Do you, the voters of the First District, want someone who voted that way to represent you? For shame Journal Star for this endorsement."

Fortenberry is our choice in 1st District

8mm

1,901 posted on 11/01/2006 3:03:13 AM PST by 8mmMauser ("We will not be silent. We are your bad conscience. The White Rose will give you no rest.")
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The Terri Factor...(Idaho)

That wasn’t the only time the congressman’s libertarian streak disappeared. Otter also voted for the 2005 House bill intervening in the Terri Schiavo case, overruling Florida courts to keep a brain-damaged woman on life support. He has voted for all the Republican iterations of immigration reform, even when they criminalized Good Samaritans who aid illegals. (“We need to get the border under control,” Otter says, “and then we can decide what to do about the people who are already here.”) He has voted for several versions of campaign finance limits.

Butch Otter Rides Again

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1,902 posted on 11/01/2006 3:07:37 AM PST by 8mmMauser ("We will not be silent. We are your bad conscience. The White Rose will give you no rest.")
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To: 8mmMauser
The answer is: They cannot.

I recall Gloria Allred saying (in reference to Terri) something to the effect that death is so final, why not err in favor of life. Many others have expressed similar opinions.

1,903 posted on 11/01/2006 3:15:15 AM PST by Dante3
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To: 8mmMauser
Not to change subjects for more than a moment, this is what John Kerry meant to say.

>> "You know, education, if you make the most of it, if you study hard and do your homework, and you make an effort to be smart, uh, you can do well. If you don't, if you get a bunch of D's, you get stuck in Vietnam like I was."

But he botched it and said "Iraq" instead of "Vietnam."

1,904 posted on 11/01/2006 3:54:51 AM PST by T'wit (Due to Original Sin, the lesser of two evils is the only choice we've ever had. Vote GOP!)
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To: T'wit

If he had one he could have said, "I raq my brain."


1,905 posted on 11/01/2006 4:03:49 AM PST by 8mmMauser ("We will not be silent. We are your bad conscience. The White Rose will give you no rest.")
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To: Dante3

And that goes across the board. I was touched by the number of people who had far ranging ideas of religion yet were baffled that one could err in favor of death.


1,906 posted on 11/01/2006 4:06:52 AM PST by 8mmMauser ("We will not be silent. We are your bad conscience. The White Rose will give you no rest.")
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To: T'wit
Har, now Kerry is caught between Iraq and a hard place. Didja see the thread on his canceling campaign commitments today?

He is rivaling Mikey in giving out the death kiss to candidates.

Heads Up! All Scheduled Kerry Functions for 11/1/06 cancelled

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1,907 posted on 11/01/2006 4:12:27 AM PST by 8mmMauser ("We will not be silent. We are your bad conscience. The White Rose will give you no rest.")
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To: 8mmMauser
>> How Can a Secular Society Claim Anyone is “Better Off Dead”?

That's easy. Ask a trial lawyer! Especially a spiritually awakened one such as George Felos. He will channel the dead person for you. True, he charges more than other spiritual advisors and fortune tellers, but he, er, uh, the dead person will tell you exactly what you want to hear!

Mr. Felos, apparently sober, spoke thus to an earlier client, Estelle Browning:

>> “‘Mrs. Browning, do you want to die? … Do you want to die?’—I near shouted as I continued to peer into her pools of strikingly beautiful but incognizant blue. It was so eerie. Her eyes were wide open and crystal clear, but instead of the warmth of lucidity, they burned with the ice of expressionlessness.”

Mrs. Browning's unspeaking innards replied, yes, she did want to die, thank you very much. And that took care of that. And you doubt that the dead are better off?!?

John Edwards, another trial lawyer, famously channeled an unborn baby, made millions by it, and ruined the practice of obstetrics. Today, when a woman gets a C-section, chances are high that Edwards put her through the extra pain of surgery. Not to mention some scars that hot wax won't remove.

Hillary Rodham Clinton is a lawyer. She has hardly any trial experience, yet she could channel Eleanor Roosevelt! Mrs. Roosevelt told her that her husband Franklin cheated too.

1,908 posted on 11/01/2006 4:24:02 AM PST by T'wit (Due to Original Sin, the lesser of two evils is the only choice we've ever had. Vote GOP!)
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To: 8mmMauser
>> Judge ... ruled in Schiavo case

And he'll answer to God for it.

1,909 posted on 11/01/2006 4:46:44 AM PST by T'wit (Due to Original Sin, the lesser of two evils is the only choice we've ever had. Vote GOP!)
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To: T'wit; 8mmMauser
No you're still wrong, what he meant to say is:

"If you don't, if you get a bunch of D's, you get grain of rice stuck in your ass in Vietnam like I did."

1,910 posted on 11/01/2006 4:56:08 AM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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Judge ... ruled in Schiavo case

And he'll answer to God for it.

Even Pilate tried to avoid making a judgement and washed his hands later. Where does that put Greer?

1,911 posted on 11/01/2006 4:59:20 AM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: 8mmMauser

On a slightly less reverential note, I should like to thank the blessed St. Fu, patron of trolls.


1,912 posted on 11/01/2006 5:02:34 AM PST by T'wit (Due to Original Sin, the lesser of two evils is the only choice we've ever had. Vote GOP!)
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To: wagglebee

Well, Greer didn't wring his hands during that Holy Week, just said Terri should die. I don't think Whittemore agonized over the decision, just dawdled to let the clock run out as Terri's chances for recovery from the dehydration slipped away. Both had stains washing does not remove.


1,913 posted on 11/01/2006 5:05:52 AM PST by 8mmMauser ("We will not be silent. We are your bad conscience. The White Rose will give you no rest.")
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To: T'wit; BykrBayb
Yes, we can be thankful to St. Fu for the silence.


1,914 posted on 11/01/2006 5:08:46 AM PST by 8mmMauser ("We will not be silent. We are your bad conscience. The White Rose will give you no rest.")
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To: 8mmMauser

Exactly.


1,915 posted on 11/01/2006 5:09:10 AM PST by Dante3
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To: 8mmMauser
>> ...Terry Schiavo. Mr. Fortenberry voted with the pack that wanted to interfere with the most sacred commitment - a marriage...

Sacred, yes, Mikey agrees! He was getting Jodi Centonze pregnant one night and he said, "You know, honey, I want to do more than shack up with you and make babies. As soon as I bump off my wife and get the inheritance, let's get married."

1,916 posted on 11/01/2006 5:11:13 AM PST by T'wit (Due to Original Sin, the lesser of two evils is the only choice we've ever had. Vote GOP!)
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>> Where does that put Greer?

An unrepentant goat.

1,917 posted on 11/01/2006 5:13:38 AM PST by T'wit (Due to Original Sin, the lesser of two evils is the only choice we've ever had. Vote GOP!)
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To: 8mmMauser

Growing up I had a neighbor who was in Aushwitz and he told me one time of the subtle hand gesture that Mengele used when his brother was sent to the gas chamber due to a slight limp. I'm sure there's old films somewhere that Greer could use.


1,918 posted on 11/01/2006 5:14:35 AM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: T'wit

See #1918.


1,919 posted on 11/01/2006 5:15:15 AM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: 8mmMauser

Father God,

May every wicked one, whose action or inaction
resulted in Terri's murder, receive your perfect
justice in your perfect timing.

Please let it be in our lifetime.

Shower Terri's family with your comfort and love, this
day and every day.

In Jesus name,

Amen


1,920 posted on 11/01/2006 5:27:50 AM PST by Lesforlife ("For you created my inmost being; you knit me together in my mother's womb . . ." Psalm 139:13!!!!!)
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To: wagglebee
Another flaw in Kerry's "stupid soldier" theory is that you need your best in battle. Combat is "The Most Dangerous Game." You fight smart or die. When we send sad sack screw-ups like Kerry into battle, we put everyone else in the unit at risk.

I, for one, am glad the SOB copped an early out in Nam. If I were in his outfit, I wouldn't want to be looking over my shoulder to see which way he's running.

1,921 posted on 11/01/2006 5:30:40 AM PST by T'wit (Due to Original Sin, the lesser of two evils is the only choice we've ever had. Vote GOP!)
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To: Lesforlife

Beautiful words. Deo Gratias.


1,922 posted on 11/01/2006 5:36:20 AM PST by 8mmMauser ("We will not be silent. We are your bad conscience. The White Rose will give you no rest.")
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To: T'wit; wagglebee; NotchJohnson
A Boortz take on the upcoming election...

Don't get me wrong ... I still have this deep felt desire to see the Republican's get punished by the electorate in next week's midterm election ... but suddenly the stakes seem to be too high.

What turned the tide for me? John Kerry, that's what. That insipid, haughty, pretentious jerk uttered another one of his absurd statements about our men and women in uniform ... and in a flash my fear of Democrats and their disdain for our military services overcame any desire I had to put Republicans over my knee.

TURNING POINT --- AT LEAST FOR ME (Boortz)

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1,923 posted on 11/01/2006 5:41:12 AM PST by 8mmMauser ("We will not be silent. We are your bad conscience. The White Rose will give you no rest.")
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To: T'wit
If I were in his outfit, I wouldn't want to be looking over my shoulder to see which way he's running.

Or who he was shooting at.

1,924 posted on 11/01/2006 5:41:33 AM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee

Accompanying caption: "Selection of inmates at Auschwitz. Mengele is in foreground at far right with cigarette in hand"

At the moral level, this scene is recreated every time a euthanazi, a bioethicker, a right-to-die advocate, a troll, a lawyer, a judge chooses who shall die.

1,925 posted on 11/01/2006 5:42:11 AM PST by T'wit (Due to Original Sin, the lesser of two evils is the only choice we've ever had. Vote GOP!)
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To: 8mmMauser

I either love what Boortz is talking about or I get so angry I turn him off. I appreciate him talking about this yesterday, but he also made a comment about how the Pennsylvania GOP should not have nominated Santorum.


1,926 posted on 11/01/2006 5:43:53 AM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: wagglebee
Boortz was no friend of Terri. Here is a clip from a Larry King show:

NEAL BOORTZ, RADIO TALK SHOW HOST: Well, yes, Larry, I am. And we've been talking about this case not only for the last couple weeks, but for last couple of years. I actually like to consider myself more libertarian. But I do favor keeping the tube out, because I think, first of all, I believe that the court reached the right decision when they said that that was the wish of Terri Schiavo.

But second of all, I think that 15 years for her soul to be trapped in this limbo with this non-functioning body is quite enough. It's time to let her go home. And it's a real pity that this has been turned into such a political contest. I frankly wonder whether some of the combatants are that concerned about Terri, as much as they are about their own political agenda and political goals.

CNN LARRY KING LIVE... Panel Discusses Battle Over Terri Schiavo

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1,927 posted on 11/01/2006 6:05:03 AM PST by 8mmMauser ("We will not be silent. We are your bad conscience. The White Rose will give you no rest.")
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To: 8mmMauser

Boortz should stick to property rights. Even the Fair Tax has a lot of flaws as far as I can tell.


1,928 posted on 11/01/2006 6:13:32 AM PST by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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>> Fair Tax

An oxymoron if I ever heard one!

1,929 posted on 11/01/2006 6:45:11 AM PST by T'wit (Due to Original Sin, the lesser of two evils is the only choice we've ever had. Vote GOP!)
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To: 8mmMauser
Neal Boortz claims to be a libertarian. In the National Review / Old Right / Goldwater tradition, that is an honorable and conscientious philosophy. A libertarian is a principled defender of everyone's God-given rights to life, liberty, property, and a deep-dyed opponent of statist interventions. But where was Boortz when the state stripped Terri Schiavo of everything -- of her property, her liberty and her life? He was on CNN, calmly approving of Terri's court-ordered extermination!

Another spiritual heir of Mengele.

1,930 posted on 11/01/2006 7:07:51 AM PST by T'wit (Due to Original Sin, the lesser of two evils is the only choice we've ever had. Vote GOP!)
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To: 8mmMauser
No need for wonderment about Judge Whittemore allowing Maxx Linn to debate. Linn's Attorney Lirot is also Joe Redner's attorney. It was a slam dunk that Whittemore would rule for Lirot. Remember Joe Redner, the atheist and aclu member was at Terri's federal crt hrg but the court staff would not allow a woman in a wheelchair to attend the hearing! This was the Donald Trump of lap dancing v. a disabled woman. Whittemore=Redner=Lirot=Linn

ALERT: November Terri's Justice Dailies will be posted today?

1,931 posted on 11/01/2006 7:53:45 AM PST by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org or Join Terri's Legacy List Contact: 8mmmauser)
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To: 8mmMauser; Lesforlife; Sun; T'wit; bjs1779; Dante3; amdgmary; BykrBayb
Debating about who would have killed Terri better. Isn't it ludicrous? Terri was murdered. To argue that public servants would have killed her more or better is so outrageous. Poor Terri is gone and there's plenty of blame to go around.

The debates are like arguing over who the biggest bully on the block is. So juvenile. The crime of murder is UP in Florida. Why don't they do something about that instead of brag about how they would have killed Terri too..... Anyone with a conscience who has read the Constitution please run for office. Please.

1,932 posted on 11/01/2006 7:58:06 AM PST by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org or Join Terri's Legacy List Contact: 8mmmauser)
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To: 8mmMauser
The year 2003 and more decisively 2005 was a tough year for TERRI SCHINDLER SCHIAVO to be an American. It didn't do her any good.

So it's not a good time to be a Republican? That's small potatoes compared to what Terri and the Schindlers endured.

1,933 posted on 11/01/2006 8:01:37 AM PST by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org or Join Terri's Legacy List Contact: 8mmmauser)
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To: pickyourpoison

Putnam's the real deal. He's not a boomer. The boomers are too influenced by money and power. I'm so over most of them. They aspire to be like Bill Clinton which makes no sense whatsoever.


1,934 posted on 11/01/2006 8:04:12 AM PST by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org or Join Terri's Legacy List Contact: 8mmmauser)
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Is Terri America's first holocaust victim? Such unkind politicians keep attacking her and her only blunder was marrying the wrong guy.

She was disabled, not terminally ill in any sense of the word.

Be careful who you vote for and who you marry. Unless you are former Governor McGreevy and then you are going to marry your boyfriend.

1,935 posted on 11/01/2006 8:08:06 AM PST by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org or Join Terri's Legacy List Contact: 8mmmauser)
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To: T'wit

Your no. 1925 jpeg could be mistaken for HOSTAGE WOODSIDE. (but, there were more cops/SS at Hostage Woodside). Many more.


1,936 posted on 11/01/2006 8:11:06 AM PST by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org or Join Terri's Legacy List Contact: 8mmmauser)
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To: T'wit
What happened there was just 'anthropology' and he was just utilizing scientific material that was at his disposal. So George Felos like! =============================================================


1,937 posted on 11/01/2006 3:00:42 PM PST by bjs1779
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To: bjs1779

The Nazis back then hid behind the scientific-sounding title of "anthropology." Today the new generation of Nazis hide behind the moralistic-sounding title of "bioethics."


1,938 posted on 11/01/2006 3:33:39 PM PST by T'wit (Due to Original Sin, the lesser of two evils is the only choice we've ever had. Vote GOP!)
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To: 8mmMauser
FYI:

Haleigh Poutre Case (with photo gallery)

1,939 posted on 11/01/2006 3:44:20 PM PST by T'wit (Due to Original Sin, the lesser of two evils is the only choice we've ever had. Vote GOP!)
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To: T'wit
Imagine being an anthropologist at Auschwitz. That's a little like being a baby sitter at an abortion clinic.
1,940 posted on 11/01/2006 5:06:06 PM PST by bjs1779
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To: 8mmMauser
Crist says took private stand on Terri Schiavo.

In Florida doublespeak, private stand means = stand for special interests.

http://www.tboblogs.com/index.php/news/comments/crist-says-he-took-a-private-stand-on-schiavo/

1,941 posted on 11/01/2006 5:14:13 PM PST by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org or Join Terri's Legacy List Contact: 8mmmauser)
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To: 8mmMauser; T'wit; BykrBayb; Sun; bjs1779; Lesforlife; Dante3
Did you catch the LIE by the Palm Beach Post at the end of the article posted by 8mmmauser?

THIS IS A LIE BY THE PALM BEACH POST: "Schiavo's parents asked for a temporary restraining order against Michael. Whittemore denied the request."

The President and the U.S. Congress ordered Judge Whittemore to restore Terri's nutrition/hydration and to hold a de novo hearing (it had nothing to do w/a restraining order for Mikey and the murderers). Judge Whittemore sped up Terri's murder by defying the Prez and Congress who knew that he would.

1,942 posted on 11/01/2006 5:29:26 PM PST by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org or Join Terri's Legacy List Contact: 8mmmauser)
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To: floriduh voter
Is there something wrong with Florida’s statutes when someone like Terri Schiavo can be starved to death? She was not in the process of dying; her death was as result of the fact that food and water were removed from her. Is there something wrong with our statutes when the courts can interpret the laws to allow that to happen?

Crist "I don’t think so."

You think the law is good the way it stands?.

Crist "I think we have good law in Florida."

So you support the definition of food and hydration as extraordinary care?

Crist.I didn’t say that. I feel that the laws we have in Florida are good. I believe that what happened in Terri Schiavo’s case is a horrific tragedy. Anytime somebody passes away it’s very sad. But I believe that some decisions in that regard should be left to God and family."

See Post #1937 to see how Nazis talk, then and now.

http://www.floridabaptistwitness.com/6266.article

1,943 posted on 11/01/2006 5:46:00 PM PST by bjs1779
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To: floriduh voter
The President and the U.S. Congress ordered Judge Whittemore to restore Terri's nutrition/hydration and to hold a de novo hearing

I believe they stopped short of ordering that FV. They thought that the judges were compassionate human beings. Bending over backwards to them so as to not offend their robes got Terri killed.

1,944 posted on 11/01/2006 6:02:26 PM PST by bjs1779
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To: All; Coleus

Great pro-life voting info from Coleus:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/1728823/posts?page=20

Post #20


1,945 posted on 11/01/2006 7:19:39 PM PST by Sun (If we lose the Senate, the Dems will have control of the judiciary committee. Vote on Nov. 7)
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To: bjs1779; Askel5; BykrBayb
>> That's a little like being a baby sitter at an abortion clinic.

:-)

Meanwhile, a researcher would probably find strong links between the soft science of anthropology, social darwinism and Nazi race theory. When they speak admiringly of Mengele's contributions to anthropology, they are giving "scientific" cover to the eugenic advancement of The Master Race. Auschwitz itself was the crown jewel in their drive for racial purity and dominance.

1,946 posted on 11/01/2006 8:26:49 PM PST by T'wit (Due to Original Sin, the lesser of two evils is the only choice we've ever had. Vote GOP!)
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To: T'wit; floriduh voter; BykrBayb

Will be just a little behind in posting this morning. Was out in the woods with wife, stomping through fields and swamps and drizzle. Will be back in circulation later.

8mm


1,947 posted on 11/02/2006 5:03:15 AM PST by 8mmMauser ("We will not be silent. We are your bad conscience. The White Rose will give you no rest.")
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To: floriduh voter

bttt


1,948 posted on 11/02/2006 6:23:13 AM PST by Dante3
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To: 8mmMauser

Please don't try to be the next Steve Irwin. Crikey!


1,949 posted on 11/02/2006 6:27:54 AM PST by floriduh voter (www.conservative-spirit.org or Join Terri's Legacy List Contact: 8mmmauser)
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