Skip to comments.Pupil Rolls Drop At Schools (SoCal...guess why?)
Posted on 09/05/2006 7:07:49 AM PDT by truthkeeper
Pupil Rolls Drop At Schools
Officials fault rise in housing prices
WHITTIER - The surge in Southland housing prices has been cited as an important factor in an exodus of families from the Whittier area, causing a steep decline in K-12 enrollment in almost all local school districts.
The loss of students translates into big money, with the South Whittier School District losing more than a half million dollars in revenue during 2005-06 school year 2005-06 because of a 12 percent enrollment drop.
District officials project a loss of at least $1 million for 2006-07, said David Morton, the district's chief business officer.
"Declining enrollment has drastic effects," Morton said. "Average daily attendance makes a huge difference. In addressing it, you can't bring costs down as fast as you're losing revenue."
Whittier City Unified School District lost about 400 students in the past year, prompting Superintendent Carmella Franco to start tracking where families were moving to.
She found that nearly a quarter of those had moved out of state - even out of the country - the top three destinations being Arizona, Texas and Mexico.
"I was very interested to find out where they were going," Franco said. "So I asked my staff to build a record from transcript requests. Nearly 50 percent of California districts are experiencing declining enrollment. Meanwhile, the Inland Empire is growing like crazy. "They're getting the funds that we should be getting," she added.
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You don't get the funds if you don't have the students.
Must be another whinnnnning lib.
The same thing is happening in South Florida after decades of portable classrooms and school overcrowding. Now there is negative growth.
Tagline bump! for emphasis
In other words; We want something for nothing
Some are running screaming to homeschooling. Of course. The teachers' unions are accomplishing what the auto unions in Detroit did -- make things so utopian that the whole darned industry craters.
In this case, it will be a good cure.
If they could just find a way to tax the citizens of Mexico...
They have. It's called California Sales Tax.
Maybe they should have "ghost" students like when New Orleans had "ghost" deputies on their police force.
San Bernardino/Riverside counties..eastward. (Used to considered "the sticks.") Has undergone temendous housing, business, and population growth in the last 15 years, and is really going nuts now.
My evidence is empirical, but the consensus among the teachers that I've spoken with, HS kids transferring from CA are normally two years behind their peers taught in TX schools.
Don't know what it is for other states--any and all input is appreciated.
It's sad: I received my education in CA public schools when they were excellent. Every student in my 6th grade class was reading at 11th grade level or higher. One novel we read in class was Dumas' The Count of Monte Cristo.
What they really want is just to get the money, without having all those annoying students around that they have to pretend to educate :-).
They have no supply of "undocumented" students?
Riverside, San Bernardino, Colton and Redlands. Southern CA
Perhaps I'm too sensitive, but with all the talk of "La Raza" and the "Reconquista agenda", as demographics shift in California, the term "Inland Empire" seems to have frightening connotations.
At least they haven't stuck my grandson in some bilingual class...yet...
Welcome to TX!
And just what do they do with these funds? Certainly not educate the children.
...the term "Inland Empire" seems to have frightening connotations.
Inland Empire has been used for a very long time.
Whittier has a huge Hispanic population, largely illegal. So, all those rental properties are turning into newly gentrified neighborhoods. Sounds like a positive thing to me.
Uhhhh, did that go with this thread?
Ah. Which thread did the quote come from? Looks like it might be interesting...
I would bet you dollars to donuts these drops are really coming as a result of closer scrutiny of the student rolls by the state IG. 12% in a year is hugh!
Californians poison the political environment wherever they go. All across the West are areas where people are sick and tired of Californians taking over everything and re-making all of the CFs that caused them to leave California in the first place.
"Redneck in training - please be patient"
The same thing is happening in parts of our district in San Jose also. The older part near downtown has declining enrollment, but the southern more suburban area has increasing enrollment. The district has declining enrollment overall.
The district decided to close several schools last year. You would think they would close them in the northern part of the district. But they didn't. They closed my kids' school in the southern part of the district.
It wouldn't have been good for the poor northern schools to have been closed, even if they have horrible test scores. Closing those schools would have impacted the neighborhood too much.
So they closed a school with great test scores in an an area with increasing enrollment.
We're in private this year, and we love it. It is full of sensible people running it.
They would still be very comfortable there now, the 11th grade is reading at a 6th grade level.
If it still existed...the mods got him quickly.
Anyway, I guess I'm not going anywhere soon.
That,s one of the reasons Mrs. dearolddad decided to leave Southern CA about 10 years ago.
"the top three destinations being Arizona, Texas and Mexico."
What that translates into is mostly illegals, since those going to Texas or Arizona are likely illegal as well.
Yeah - put up their feet and put a "Don not disturb" sign on the door. This attitude almost goes hand in hand when tenure is achieved.
We lived in Whittier, about thrirty years ago. It was a terrible school district then, I can't imagine that it has gotten any better. Closing some of the schools might be an improvement. There used to be a first grade teacher that had more tenure than anyone in the district and had built up so much sick leave that she would take off the entire second marking period and go on a cruise. The school district could get rid of her, so they transferred her to a different school every two years.
The legislature passed a law in 1996 lowering K-3 class sizes to a maximum of 20. While the article goes further than most by suggesting "the jury's still out" on across-the-board class size reduction, it seems 10 years of data should be sufficient to judge whether the tens of billions of dollars Californians have dropped into the well are making our wishes come true.
In 1998, before 4th-graders had the benefit of smaller classes, California's 4th-graders ranked ahead of only those in Hawaii and Louisiana in reading (NAEP test). The benchmark for math is 1996, where California's 4th-graders finished ahead of those in Mississippi and tied with those in Louisiana.
In 2005, California's 4th-graders beat out Mississippi in reading. Hawaii and Louisiana passed us. The brightest picture is 4th-grade math. California finished ahead of Alabama, Mississippi and New Mexico, and tied with Louisiana and Nevada.
What's worse is that we have had class size reduction for so long, we can now compare the NAEP scores of 8th-graders under the old class sizes with 8th-graders who experienced four years of 20-student classes. They are virtually indistinguishable.
Other studies have shown that class size is negatively correlated with outcomes, although that's probably a "marker" result indicating that class-size reductions are a substitute for real teaching.
Don't I just know it!
Yeah, I hear you. I've had fair luck with my kids' and grandson's schools thus far, but they're really nothing to get excited about. East Whittier is the best of the bunch...I think the city has about 5 different school districts. (Huge.)
This should be easy to solve, Superintendent Franco. If there are hundreds fewer students, you simply fire dozens of teachers who are no longer needed. That can be done overnight...unless you are afraid of the NEA and their goon lawyers.
Precisely ... and students interested in learning, if only because their parents will kill them if they don't!