Posted on 09/05/2006 8:23:01 AM PDT by SirLinksalot
History favors Democrats in Congress races
By Donald Lambro THE WASHINGTON TIMES
The race for Congress and the nation's governorships bolted from the Labor Day starting gate yesterday, with voter-preference polls tightening between the parties in an election that both sides said will be even closer by November.
Historically, the party that holds the White House usually loses seats in Congress in a second term, and campaign strategists in both parties expected Democrats to make gains in the House and Senate -- while two top election forecasters predicted they will win 15 or more seats that will give them majority control of the House.
If "the political climate remains as it is today -- a very big 'if' -- Republicans will likely lose the House and their dominance of the nation's governorships, but hang on to the Senate by a thread," veteran analyst Charlie Cook said last week in his National Journal report.
Analyst Stuart Rothenberg predicted that Democrats would gain between 15 and 20 additional House seats, "which would translate to between 218 and 223 seats -- and a majority -- in the next House."
But Republican officials said the generic party-preference polls that have showed the Democrats leading were skewed and that they would hold on to the House.
"I think the national generic polls are irrelevant. House races come down to a choice between two people on the ballot, and we've successfully made that happen in the last three election cycles," said Carl Forti, chief spokesman for the National Republican Congressional Committee.
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The history of the past five years... demands that they be denied.
Tradesports.com shows GOP chances of hanging onto control of the House dropping quite a lot over the weekend.
The Senate, according to the website, still appears likely to remain under Republican control.
Well, I am not shocked that Tradesports dropped this weekend. Labor Day is the real start of campaign season. Thus, this was the last weekend the MSM could beat the "the election has already been won by the democrats" drum. Believe me, that drum was relentless. The MSM's theme was not "are the dems going to win" but "what are the dems going to do once they have won?"
I would agree with that statement.
You are quite right.
Merely reporting what the website is saying.
Nonsense. The GOP will hold he house. Its the statewide races where election fraud can steal elections that makes senate and state candidates vulnerable.
"But Republican officials said the generic party-preference polls that have showed the Democrats leading were skewed and that they would hold on to the House."
It's fairly skewed when these MSM/Rat endorsed pollsters oversample Rats by 8-14 points and true Independents by 10-25 points. The MSM pulls this stunt every election year. They'll show the Republicans down by 10-20 points, depending on the poll, in an attempt to convince people that they don't stand a chance and then around the last will tighten the numbers so if they turn out wrong they won't completely lose their credibility. The MSM will be touting out people claiming to be Republican but "so frustrated" with the party that they are voting Rat but in reality they were voting Rats anyway.
Here are two things that are going to hurt the republicans in November. These are merely observations:
#1 - An oilman is in the White House. Gas prices went up, with dire predictions of $4-$5/gal gas. The republicans appear to have trouble on their hands in the mid-terms and *poof* gas is $2.40/gal here and they're not talking about $2/gal gas soon.
#2 - The Iranians were said to have a surprise for us on 8/22. Then again on 8/31. The fact that nothing happened will be played up as fear mongering by the right.
I know that gas pricing is complex. I know that world events are unpredictable. I'm just telling you what the "average" voter is likely looking at in making his/her decision. One of the things saving the republicans is that the democrats still show themselves to be weak on security. That may not be enough. November could be very bumpy.
And don't forget this:
Absurd hysteric Know Nothing nonsense. 1st Gas prices RISING is suppose to hurt the GOP now dropping gas prices is suppose to hurt them?
That is the most absurd sort of wishful thinking from the Democrat Virtual Campaigners I have ever heard.
Just FYI,
Even a conservative site like THE AMERICAN THINKER's Political correspondent believes that a Democratic takeover of the house looks likely. See here :
http://www.americanthinker.com/articles.php?article_id=5828
"That is the most absurd sort of wishful thinking from the Democrat Virtual Campaigners I have ever heard."
Ok. Whatever works for you. I'm going with what I heard in picnics in my neck of the woods.
And the polls are reflecting....?
I disagree.
Gas has dropped more than 50 cents a gallon across the nation. There is considerable and open discussion of gas going below 2$. That would be a catastrophic blow to the "bad economy" mantra of dems and media. It was already unsustainable with 4% GDP growth and 4.7 unemployment numbers.
It think the weeks of Iran will only underscore that the Europeans and UN are moral frauds incapable of keeping promises. This will underscore US hegemony good arguments by conservatives.
I think we will now begin to see 'conserative politicians are traitors' stories between now and the election. This will be an effort to confirm hoax polling showing Republicans 'behind.'
Regarding your point 1 the lower the gas prices the better it is for the Republicans, I do not know how did you come with this conspiracy theory f yours, people do not think that way.
Regarding your point 2, I was not aware of many people talking about this August 22nd Iran surprise and definitely not the President or Republicans in Congress. Again your are creating another conspiracy theory and the American people do not think that way.
I noticed a lot of carbon-copy stories this weekend about how the Democrats were going to sweep to victory. This, after Republicans started jumping in the polls, particularly on the generic ballot question.
Unfortunately, in politics gas prices only increase. The only exception to this will be if prices dip below $2 at any point.
This is from candidate school 101. seriously, they teach this to candidates.
Look for a trend and claim it as your own. No matter how far back you have to go.
Thus the "trend" of the last 20 years can be ignored and you can reach back to the stone age.
"I disagree. "
You may be right. I'm just repeating some of the stuff I heard over the long weekend. Some of it was by people I know wouldn't vote republican ever. But it was discussed as if the ideas had merit. I kind of stayed out of the way.
I know the pocketbook overrules the conspiracy nuts. So, I'm not sure what effect gas prices will really have on the election.
I did hear a fair amount of talk about Iran and the deadlines, more than I thought I would. I expect the MSM to crank up the fearmonger angle, but I did mention that the democrats, even to the democrats I talked to, still look weak on security.
I bet if we look to 2000 and 2002 and 2004 we can find the word for word exact same articles.
I bet some plagerism is involved
The "average" voter was probably unaware about 8/22, and if he is, probably does not associate it with Republicans.
"The "average" voter was probably unaware about 8/22, and if he is, probably does not associate it with Republicans."
I'm not sure. I do know the fear monger angle was thrown about, but that's not new. And certainly doesn't have to be tied to 8/22.
The future is unwritten
YMMV?
What's that?
Thanks for the reply. It's surprising to hear folks out your way know, and understand the Plame case. Never came up here. Totally washed away, like it didn't happen.
I suspect you're right, that dems never admit to other dems that they'll vote republican, but in the booth, they have to do what they think will keep them safe. Democrats will keep no one safe.
YMMV = Your Mileage May Vary
In this context, a general disclaimer that conditions may be different in your experience.
Sounds like easy money.
We will pick up seats in the senate for one, the house races are local and most will stay with the incumbents and remember that chi def that won the super bowl
the gop will be doing the super bowl shuffle
KC damn straight. Great Observation. House races are local, and the GOP does not have any Incumbents in inner cities anyways.
They were similar things in 02,04 and their predictions for 06 are over the top. It is pretty hard to see Dems controlling the senate. Republicans have a strong grasp on House seats , most incumbents have knowledge of local politics and would probably be reelected, the number of really competitive seats are not that much.
SirLink, just Remember in 2004 the Publisher of the American Thinker endorsed John Kerry!!!! and your tag line is misleading. It still shows the GOP losing only 11 Seats. I am tired of defeatists posting misleading articles about the House races. This is all based on Summer polling that will tighten in the fall.
I agree. Sirlink this is all rehashed garbage from 2002 and 2004. These morons think that 3 GOP incumbents will lose in RED STATE Indiana. What a farce.
1. Baron Hill is pro gay marriage.
2. Donnelly is a trial Lawyer
3. Ellsworth the Sherriff, had a 14 year old witness assasinated in a murder trial.
these are the issue that swing elections, not Beltway forecasting.
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