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APA Has No Disagreement With the Treatment of Unwanted Homosexual Attraction
NARTH ^ | August 12, 2006

Posted on 09/06/2006 7:58:03 AM PDT by scripter

Surrounded by President-Elect Sharon Stephens Brehm, CEO Norman Anderson and other prominent members of the American Psychological Association (APA), President Gerald P. Koocher voiced support for the treatment of those distressed by unwanted homosexual attractions.

In a Town Hall Meeting dedicated to open exchange between members and APA leaders, Dr. Koocher fielded a question from NARTH President Joseph Nicolosi about APA's position on the treatment of unwanted homosexuality.

Highlighting the importance of client autonomy and self-determination, Dr. Koocher stated, "APA has no conflict with psychologists who help those distressed by unwanted homosexual attraction."


Ex-gays picket the APA to show that men and women do not have to live with same-sex attractions.

He emphasized that --

1. The choice to enter therapy to diminish homosexual attractions and to strengthen heterosexual potential must be respected.

2. The choice to enter therapy must be voluntary and not coerced in any way.

3. Treatment options must be discussed by the therapist.

4. Treatment goals must be mutually agreed upon.

5. The "iterative process" must be a part of therapy. That is, client choice regarding treatment goals must be reiterated throughout the treatment process.

In response to a follow-up question by Dr. Nicolosi about the lack of clarity in APA's statements and positions, Dr. Koocher clearly emphasized that providing psychological care to those distressed by unwanted homosexual attractions was well within APA's Code of Ethics, and he invited Dr. Nicolosi to submit his recommendations for further clarifications to APA.


Protesters Greet APA Conference attendees as they arrive in buses.

A significant number of NARTH members were in attendance at the APA conference, including Scientific Advisory Board and Governing Board members, and several of those NARTH leaders posed questions to Dr. Koocher at the public meeting.

Dr. Ned Stringham, also a member of NARTH's SAC, followed with a question about the lack of socio-political diversity in the APA. He cited the evidence from an article published in the American Psychologist by Dr. Richard E. Redding. Koocher indicated that he was preparing an article for publication in the APA Monitor that would address the issue.

Dr. A. Dean Byrd, Chair of NARTH's Scientific Advisory Committee (SAC), raised his hand to question Dr. Koocher about the serious charges leveled at the APA in the recent book Destructive Trends in Mental Health, edited by Drs. Wright and Cummings, longtime prominent members of APA.

Dr. Byrd noted that in a symposium earlier that day, Dr. Nicholas Cummings, Dr. Bonnie Strickland and Dr. Frank Farley (all former APA presidents) had raised serious concerns about APA's misrepresentation of science to the American public. They had specifically focused on the "corrosive effects of the socio-political ideologies" in the APA, the "liberal biases" in the APA, and had characterized the organization "a politically correct profession, with crowd control by the thought police."


Protestors at the APA Convention voice support for NARTH's petition and tell psychologists that they have successfully changed.

Dr. Koocher elected not to respond to the issues raised in the Wright and Cummings book, but rather chose to focus on the publisher--dismissing the book as having been produced by a "vanity press." Koocher indicated that he had contacted the publisher (Routledge) to inquire about who paid for the publishing of the book. He also wanted to know how the book was being distributed, but he received no response.

Another NARTH SAC member, Dr. David Blakeslee, raised his hand to thank APA leaders for holding the open meeting, and emphasized the importance of psychologists' respecting client's values that are associated with their faith traditions. Koocher was supportive of Dr. Blakeslee's comments and noted that religion was a legitimate part of diversity.

The Town Meeting exchange occurred the day after over 50 ex-gays had protested outside the APA convention. The protesters respectfully greeted convention-goers as they exited the buses at the conference hall with signs such as "Change is Possible," "APA, we need your support," "It's Okay Not To Be Gay," and "Diversity Includes Us." More than 500 copies of NARTH's petition to APA were individually distributed to the psychologists entering the convention.

"Overall, the response to the protestors and the petition was overwhelmingly positive," said NARTH's Dr. A. Dean Byrd. A psychologist attending the convention from New York City, Dr. Norma J. Hart, talked with the protestors and read the petition, with which she said she was in full agreement. She was interviewed by WDSU-TV Channel 6 in New Orleans, and in her on-air TV appearance, she spoke very favorably of the petition and the protestors, and emphasized the importance of the right to choose.

"Almost all of the psychologists to whom we showed the petition," said NARTH President Joseph Nicolosi, "were surprised and disturbed to hear that the APA would in any way restrict therapy aimed at decreasing unwanted homosexuality and developing heterosexual potential."

"I personally spoke to at least twenty students and thirty psychologists," said Dr. Dean Byrd, "and all were in disbelief that there could any problem with APA protecting the rights of clients who want to diminish their unwanted homosexuality." Other NARTH Board members reported a similar experience as they fanned out throughout the conference to speak to dozens of individual attendees.

Throughout the conference, attendees could be seen talking to NARTH members and reading the petition. Many were referred to the NARTH web site for further information.

"This is a historic step for client autonomy and self-determination," noted Dr. Byrd. "Dr. Koocher's statements were clear and unambiguous in support of the rights of those who are distressed by their unwanted homosexual attraction. In fact, the message conveyed by Dr. Koocher today is identical to NARTH's mission statement. I hope that APA and NARTH can now begin a fruitful dialogue about this very important issue."


TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: apa; disorders; exgays; homosexualagenda; narth; perverts; psychology

1 posted on 09/06/2006 7:58:05 AM PDT by scripter
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2 posted on 09/06/2006 7:58:43 AM PDT by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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To: scripter

I'd like to see the psychological evidence in connection with homosexuality, period. What caused the APA to take the positions it has over the years?


3 posted on 09/06/2006 8:00:15 AM PDT by cvq3842
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To: scripter

I once had a homosexual try to tell me that straight people not "dating" homosexuals was a form of discrimmination and that he thought the ACLU should take it up.


4 posted on 09/06/2006 8:01:37 AM PDT by cripplecreek (If stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out?)
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To: EdReform
From what we were discussing a week or two ago, here's another that believes homosexuals should be able to seek therapy, and this one is the current president of the APA:

Dr. Koocher stated, "APA has no conflict with psychologists who help those distressed by unwanted homosexual attraction."

And he was surrounded by President-Elect Sharon Stephens Brehm, CEO Norman Anderson and other prominent members of the American Psychological Association (APA)

That should go a long way towards educating folks that change is possible.

5 posted on 09/06/2006 8:02:15 AM PDT by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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To: cvq3842
I'd like to see the psychological evidence in connection with homosexuality, period.

Indeed!

What caused the APA to take the positions it has over the years?

According to many in the APA, including homosexual activist and scientist Simon LeVay, it was gay activism that removed homosexuality as a mental disorder. It certainly wasn't science...

6 posted on 09/06/2006 8:04:50 AM PDT by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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To: cripplecreek
I once had a homosexual try to tell me that straight people not "dating" homosexuals was a form of discrimmination and that he thought the ACLU should take it up.

Years ago I'd have a hard time believing somebody would think that. But not today. The times have certainly changed.

But now that the APA president and other prominent APA members have come out and said homosexuals should be able to seek therapy if that condition is stressful to them, perhaps we'll see some things start to reverse.

7 posted on 09/06/2006 8:08:20 AM PDT by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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To: scripter

This will be all over the MSM like when they found WMD and the Armitage Plamegate connection.


8 posted on 09/06/2006 8:09:26 AM PDT by Clint N. Suhks (If you don't love Jesus, you can go to hell.)
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To: All
The I Do Exist video tells the story of 5 ex-gays.
9 posted on 09/06/2006 8:11:01 AM PDT by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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To: Clint N. Suhks
This will be all over the MSM like when they found WMD and the Armitage Plamegate connection.

A very good point. It's a good thing we have FreeRepublic and the internet to get this news out there.

10 posted on 09/06/2006 8:12:59 AM PDT by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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To: cripplecreek
I thought homosexuals had mixed feelings about mixing with they call straights.. Those they would mix with would be bisexual and some consider them to be a kind of pariah.

I'll never figure those people out and its probably a waste of time trying to understand.

11 posted on 09/06/2006 8:13:29 AM PDT by oyez (The way to punish a providence is to allow it to be governed by philosophers. --Frederick the Great)
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To: cripplecreek
I once had a homosexual try to tell me that straight people not "dating" homosexuals was a form of discrimination and that he thought the ACLU should take it up.

That's kinda creepy... especially if you're a straight that's been hit on by a homosexual.

12 posted on 09/06/2006 8:13:44 AM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with your God.)
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To: scripter
The People Can Change website has a lot of great information. Including:
Is Change really Possible
Root Causes, Homosexual Consequences

13 posted on 09/06/2006 8:15:07 AM PDT by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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To: All
Homosexuality and the possibility of change
14 posted on 09/06/2006 8:17:02 AM PDT by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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To: All
Latest Scientific Research: Those Struggling with Homosexuality Can Be Set Free
15 posted on 09/06/2006 8:17:59 AM PDT by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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To: scripter
Dr. Koocher clearly emphasized that providing psychological care to those distressed by unwanted homosexual attractions was well within APA's Code of Ethics

I was beginning to think it would be a cold day in... before the APA supported client autonomy here.

16 posted on 09/06/2006 8:38:31 AM PDT by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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To: Clint N. Suhks
Dr. Byrd noted that in a symposium earlier that day, Dr. Nicholas Cummings, Dr. Bonnie Strickland and Dr. Frank Farley (all former APA presidents) had raised serious concerns about APA's misrepresentation of science to the American public. They had specifically focused on the "corrosive effects of the socio-political ideologies" in the APA, the "liberal biases" in the APA, and had characterized the organization "a politically correct profession, with crowd control by the thought police."

Yes! Folks all over the world are probably feeling just a little vindicated with the above statements.

17 posted on 09/06/2006 8:42:14 AM PDT by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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To: cvq3842

Homosexuality was in the DSM IV as a mental disorder for a very long time.... in the late 70s bowing to political pressure.. not to any new studies proving otherwise it was voted to be removed from the DSM.


18 posted on 09/06/2006 8:47:00 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: HamiltonJay

That's what I thought.


19 posted on 09/06/2006 8:48:17 AM PDT by cvq3842
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To: scripter

This is awesome. Revolutionary!

And the dude is all worried about who paid for/printed the book, not its CONTENTS!

This news cheers me immensely.


20 posted on 09/06/2006 9:08:09 AM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: scripter


As an APA member for 17 years, I am surprised they took a thoughtful stand on this issue. The leadership is usually pretty far left and makes decisions that are more political than scientific in nature.

The decision indicates that ethics trumped politics in this instance. If a client wishes to work on not being homosexual, it would be unethical to refuse treatment or to refuse to refer the person to a therapist with that specialty.


21 posted on 09/06/2006 9:12:33 AM PDT by neocon1984 (end the idiocy of post-modernism)
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To: little jeremiah
This is awesome. Revolutionary!

There you go. It is revolutionary!

And the dude is all worried about who paid for/printed the book, not its CONTENTS!

The book, Destructive Trends in Mental Health is quite informative. Everybody should read the reviews at Amazon.

22 posted on 09/06/2006 9:14:01 AM PDT by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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To: neocon1984
The decision indicates that ethics trumped politics in this instance.

And many can say: "It's about time." This is a welcome change in direction.

Have you had a chance to read Destructive Trends in Mental Health? The reviews at Amazon are quite interesting. I have the book but haven't yet finished reading it.

23 posted on 09/06/2006 9:18:50 AM PDT by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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To: scripter

I'll check it out, thanks. I remember reading about it on FR but forgot to follow up, like so many things.


24 posted on 09/06/2006 9:31:44 AM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: scripter

Thanks for the reference. I read the reviews and it sounds like a good resource. However, I am so fed up with APA politics and the disingenuousness of psychology activists, that rehashing it just makes me angry.

I make it a point not to engage other psychologists in political discussions. It can only rupture relationships when you realize that someone is completely brainwashed or intellectually dishonest.


25 posted on 09/06/2006 10:02:39 AM PDT by neocon1984 (end the idiocy of post-modernism)
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To: scripter

Gays are very very threatened by the ex-gay movement. This is a good sign.


26 posted on 09/06/2006 10:48:02 AM PDT by I_Love_My_Husband
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To: scripter

Its not revolutionary... it basically puts the Psychological establisments view on treating homosexuality BACK where it was in the 1970s and prior.

Its a step in the right direction, but its not a revolution.... more of a recognition of reality if you asked me.


27 posted on 09/06/2006 10:51:39 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: HamiltonJay

"Its not revolutionary... it basically puts the Psychological establisments view on treating homosexuality BACK where it was in the 1970s and prior."

Not really. Back before DSM IV, all homosexuals were considered to be in need of treatment. All the APA has said here is that those who are in distress about their sexuality should be able to receive treatment of a type with which they agree. It is very different from the APA saying that homosexuals are mentally ill and all need treatment.


28 posted on 09/06/2006 11:19:51 AM PDT by CTMRIop ("From a pagoda, the world is so tidy." Brian Eno)
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To: CTMRIop

True, they are saying if you don't want treatment we won't force it on you.... but then again, with the exception of Nazi Germany, I don't recall homosexuals being rounded up and put in re-education camps.


29 posted on 09/06/2006 11:22:20 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: I_Love_My_Husband
Gays are very very threatened by the ex-gay movement. This is a good sign.

Indeed it is. The sad part in all this are the folks (homosexual and heterosexual) who will continue to deny change is possible. This is a great start!

30 posted on 09/06/2006 11:25:28 AM PDT by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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To: HamiltonJay
Its a step in the right direction, but its not a revolution.... more of a recognition of reality if you asked me.

I understand your point. While both are recognizing reality, for years we've been told just the opposite. And as one in the trenches in this debate, anything from the APA that supports what I've been saying for years seems revolutionary. Spitzer's comments that gays can change seemed revolutionary at the time as well.

31 posted on 09/06/2006 11:29:37 AM PDT by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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"Dr. A. Dean Byrd, Chair of NARTH's Scientific Advisory Committee (SAC), raised his hand to question Dr. Koocher about the serious charges leveled at the APA in the recent book Destructive Trends in Mental Health, edited by Drs. Wright and Cummings, longtime prominent members of APA.

Dr. Byrd noted that in a symposium earlier that day, Dr. Nicholas Cummings, Dr. Bonnie Strickland and Dr. Frank Farley (all former APA presidents) had raised serious concerns about APA's misrepresentation of science to the American public. They had specifically focused on the "corrosive effects of the socio-political ideologies" in the APA, the "liberal biases" in the APA, and had characterized the organization "a politically correct profession, with crowd control by the thought police."

Dr. Koocher elected not to respond to the issues raised in the Wright and Cummings book, but rather chose to focus on the publisher--dismissing the book as having been produced by a "vanity press..."


It's no surprise that Koocher elected not to respond to the charges of "liberal biases" in the APA. These charges have been ignored for years, as documented here and here. In the first reference, you'll note that these charges were made by APA members in APA publications, not some "vanity press."

See also:

Minnesota Psychologist Taken to Task for Saying Homosexuals Can Change.

Guide Me, O Thou Great APA

An excerpt from "When Activism Masquerades as Science: Potential Consequences of Recent APA Resolutions"

32 posted on 09/06/2006 12:39:51 PM PDT by EdReform (Protect our 2nd Amendment Rights - Join the NRA today - www.nra.org)
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To: scripter
I'll believe them when 1) they go back and issue errata for all of the volumes of propaganda they've published over the years (such as this one: "Just the Facts About Sexual Orientation & Youth: A Primer for Principals, Educators and School Personnel), and 2) when they issue a positiion statement that reflects their new views on ex-gay related therapy at the next NEA national convention.
34 posted on 09/06/2006 12:53:06 PM PDT by EdReform (Protect our 2nd Amendment Rights - Join the NRA today - www.nra.org)
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To: scripter

It sounds like some positive steps were achieved.


35 posted on 09/06/2006 1:25:54 PM PDT by Unam Sanctam
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To: CTMRIop

Don't take this personally, but I believe your source is incorrect. For your source to be correct then the entire NARTH article would be a complete fabrication. What is your source?


36 posted on 09/06/2006 4:43:02 PM PDT by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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To: EdReform
It's no surprise that Koocher elected not to respond to the charges of "liberal biases" in the APA.

No doubt! The book Destructive Trends in Mental Health is quite revealing, and it's written by liberal members of the APA.

37 posted on 09/06/2006 4:45:03 PM PDT by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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To: EdReform
I'll believe them when

One step at a time... The growing numbers of ex-gays is getting more and more attention and is gaining momentum.

38 posted on 09/06/2006 4:46:17 PM PDT by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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To: CTMRIop; EdReform; little jeremiah
I believe I found your source: Dr. Clinton Anderson, director of the lesbian, gay and bisexual office of the APA, who is on record as saying:
I don't think that anyone disagrees with the idea that people can change, because we know that straight people become gay and lesbian — so it seems totally reasonable that some gay and lesbian people would become straight. Source
It would appear Dr. Clinton Anderson speaks out of both sides of his mouth.

Dr. Clinton Anderson went on to say that while change is possible, it doesn't happen inside the therapeutic office. That's a ridiculous statement. Here's Dr. Nicolosi's response:

People grow and change as a result of life experience, especially personal relations. Clearly, Mr. Anderson has made a false and misleading distinction.
Having read the entire story, I concur. So your source engages in tactics we might see coming from a homosexual activist.
39 posted on 09/06/2006 5:54:30 PM PDT by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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To: scripter

He be gone. But he can still read!


40 posted on 09/06/2006 6:38:50 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: little jeremiah
He be gone. But he can still read!

And we can hope he first takes off the blinders!

41 posted on 09/06/2006 6:40:52 PM PDT by scripter ("You don't have a soul. You are a soul. You have a body." - C.S. Lewis)
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To: scripter

Those mental blinders are often kind of "stuck on".

"First you have to WANT to take them off..."


42 posted on 09/06/2006 6:52:21 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: scripter

One step at a time...


Agreed. It's good that we have them on record saying so. However, I still want their feet held to the fire. They've caused a lot of damage over the years with their radical political agenda. Ditto for the other APA.

43 posted on 09/07/2006 5:57:00 AM PDT by EdReform (Protect our 2nd Amendment Rights - Join the NRA today - www.nra.org)
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To: cvq3842

1. APA is dominated by liberal politics. the view of many APA leaders was that it was coercive to try to change people's sexual orientation.

2. for a long time there was very little scientific evidence that sexual orientation of adults could be changed (from homosexual to heterosexual).
i don't know what the scientific status of this type of therapy is at this point.


44 posted on 09/10/2006 7:13:24 AM PDT by drhogan
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To: OneWingedShark; cripplecreek

LOL! I'm so dense, I thought you were referring to not only people of opposite sexual orientation but people of the opposite sex! LOL!


46 posted on 10/27/2006 8:15:38 AM PDT by PreviouslyA-Lurker (...where the spirit of the Lord is, there is liberty. 2 Corinthians 3:16-18)
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1) I have to echo the sentiments of the poster who called for a reinstatement of homosexuality as a flawed mental condition (or whatever the term of art may be). If there was no science to back up the decision to 'normalize' homosexuality, then the decision was tantamount to letting the inmates run the Asylum.

2) With regard to gay sheep studies in recent news showing that the orientation can be corrected -- this brings SouthParks's ("Bigger, Longer and Uncut") sequence of Saddam singing 'I can change' into a whole new perspective!


47 posted on 01/03/2007 2:58:47 AM PST by Move_Zig (For Great Justice)
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To: neocon1984

In a secular sense, homosexuality is an idolatry of perversion. It is in no way an anatomical function of the human organism, but a phantasmagoric creation from within the mentally disturbed human mind, a social psychosis, naked and on full exhibitionist display.

This is the whole crux (pun intended) of their attack on creationism - - they are really frustrated by Genesis, but cannot destroy the axiomatic state of procreant human biology, it does not fit their religious agenda.

Homosexual monogamy advocates seek ceremonious sanctification of their anatomical perversions and esoteric absolution for their guilt-ridden, impoverished egos.

Neither of those will satisfy their universal dissatisfaction with mortality or connect them to something eternal. With pantheons of fantasies as their medium of infinitization, they still have nothing in them of reality, any more than there is in the things that seem to stand before us in a dream.

Homosexual deviancy is really a pagan practice (and a self-induced social psychosis) at war with the Judaic culture over what is written in the book of Genesis (1:27, 2:18).

Many will seek ceremonious sanctification and esoteric absolution in some type of marriage rite, but that still fails to give them a connection to the eternal in both a religious and temporal, procreant sense - - the union does not produce offspring.

Dissatisfaction with inevitable mortality only feeds the impoverishment of the ego further. Homosexuals really hate human life; their whole desire is rooted in the destruction of it...

Was Freudian psychoanalytic theory of sexual stages in psychological development more accurate than accredited?

The Michael Jackson Complex is fixation on mutilation of and deviance with human anatomy in the media. It is a social psychosis catering to the lowest common denominator and generated with Pavlovian behavioral conditioning in popular culture.

Should we really be canonizing special societal privileges in the law based on idolatrous fetishes? (Disability, welfare, Social Security, etc., etc., ad nausea...)

The social psychosis generated by behavioral conditioning (Pavlov's salivating dogs) in the popular culture and the conditioned response to accept the false premises of mental illness or birth defect will be used as a political tool to systematically rob the public purse.

Then, we could have other self-inflicted mental illness and disease (aside from those we already do) subsidized by the government consolidating an ever increasing portion of the economy in the hands of the cultural Marxists.


48 posted on 01/03/2007 3:09:51 AM PST by Sir Francis Dashwood (LET'S ROLL!)
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