Bush Reveals Secret War On Terror, Movement of Suspects

Fox News ^ | 09-06-2006 | Fox News

[MNJohnnie]

WASHINGTON — President Bush, warning Americans that "terrorists are still active... and still trying to kill our people," announced Wednesday the transfer of 14 key terrorist suspects from secret CIA custody to the U.S. Navy base at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, including alleged Sept. 11 mastermind Khalid Sheik Mohammed.

He also announced that he was asking Congress to pass legislation that would allow the United States to try the terror suspects for war crimes.

"The families of the 9/11 attacks have waited patiently for justice," Bush said in making the announcement.

Issuing a warning to terrorists around the world, the president added, "We will find you, and we will bring you to justice."

The president's comments came during a White House speech on the War on Terror, his third such speech, and before an audience of 9/11 families and first responders.

Bush acknowledged for the first time the existence of secret prisons to hold terrorist suspects, and outlined how the CIA and the government's intelligence and law enforcement agencies were fighting a secret war against Al Qaeda to "stop attacks before they occur."

He detailed how the administration plans to legally try the more than 400 detainees held at Guantanamo Bay.The suspects will be transferred to Defense Department custody as a first step in preparing them for trial, a senior administration official. The suspects would be afforded some legal protections consistent with the Geneva conventions, he said

[MNJohnnie]

Fillbuster this Dems

[KoRn]

The DIMs better be careful on this. They could really end up LOSING seats if they even appear to be obstructing this. They will act like they are going along with it at first, but eventually their hatred for Bush and their nut case base will push them over the cliff.

[observer5]

"Issuing a warning to terrorists around the world, the president added, "We will find you, and we will bring you to justice."

"Justice - crap" This is the wrong warning... it should go like this:

"We will find you and hang you and burry you with pig skin"

[MattinNJ]

The dems are so screwed. ROVE, YOU MAGNIFICENT BASTERD.

[Marius3188]

They have already started the propaganda:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/thenation/20060905/cm_thenation/20060918brecher

[oceanview]

that's going nowhere - the details are far too complicated for the typical american to understand.

[edh]

Our attention span is fine. After reading this article....WOAH! BLUE CAR OUTSIDE!!!!

/just kidding....I agree with your post 100%

[meandog]

The dems are so screwed. ROVE, YOU MAGNIFICENT BASTERD (sic)

[Senator_Blutarski]

that's going nowhere - the details are far too complicated for the typical american to understand

Just doesn't have that simple "Bush lied, people died" / "Bush led, Democrats fled" ring to it, does it?

[Explorer24]

Great speech. The facts presented in the early part need to be repeated. USS Cole, African Embassies bombers, caught by Bush, not Clinton.

[Puppage]

ROVE, YOU MAGNIFICENT BASTERD

I READ YOUR BOOK!

[sanchmo]

Crikey, that was fast. The first victim steps into the ambush before Bush even starts his speech.

Starting off the campaign season against the Dems with wiretapping & with Gitmo / terrorist detainees is a brilliant move. Like Bugs asking Daffy "should he shoot you now, or wait till you get home?"

[Revenge of Sith]

Republicans should make Khalid Sheikh Mohammed the Willie Horton of the midterm elections.

[tobyhill]

Sounds like we're safer contrary to what the Rats claim.

[MNJohnnie]

Thank you. We can always count on you to provide the DNC Proapganda response.

[MNJohnnie]

WhaAaaa! Bush's isn't fighting back. Whaaa Bush is fighting back.

Notice how the ONLY thing the Freeper Fringers can ever think to do is whine at the Republicans? Kind makes one wonder just whose side they REALLY are on

[MNJohnnie]

Curious why you can always be counted on to act as the Democrat Party mouthpiece in everything you post? Every single one of your posts is straight off the latest DNC Talking Point. So who do you work for, Moveon.org? The DNC? Act UP?

Squeal all you want your conduct betrays your true allegiances.

[colorado tanker]

The DIMs better be careful on this. They could really end up LOSING seats if they even appear to be obstructing this.

True, but that hasn't stopped them in the past. Kinda like Charlie Brown, Lucy and the football.

[Gritty]

[MNJohnnie]

Cut and Run Democrats seems to be echoing quite well. But THAT right, it NOT about the facts, it about what the Always Crying Freeper Fringers can pout about next.

[MNJohnnie]

Kind of curious how EVERY one of your posts in 100% hyper negative scream DNC Talking points at the GOP. Why is that? How about ONE time you actually be FOR something?

But that right, as an a Democrat "Virtual Campaigner" YOU have nothing to be for. No ideas, no plans, no agenda. Nothing but endlessly screaming hysteria, hate and bile at better men who ARE getting the job done.

Ironic that YOU accuse other people of being butt clowns. That description fits your posting to a T.

[oceanview]

did you read what my response was in reply to? it was in reply to some convulted left wing argument about Bush and the war crimes act.

[meandog]

Kind of curious how EVERY one of your posts in 100% hyper negative scream DNC Talking points at the GOP. Why is that? How about ONE time you actually be FOR something?

Absolutely, I am for WINNING the Global War on Terror and getting a handle on illegal immigration threatening our nation...and if stumbling, bumbling Bush can't do it then he should step aside and let someone (Tony McPeak, William Crowe, James Buchanan, John McCain, for instance) click here who can!

[oceanview]

read the article in post #5 - that's what the responses apply to, not the thread topic.

[MNJohnnie]

Surprise me ONE time. Be FOR something. Being a 100% is unatural. Life is a bell curve. When you see a Freeper who continually falls on one end of the curve, it indicates they are not actually thinking about anything just responding based on rote programing. Being knee jerk negative about EVERYTHING is an example of that sort of pseudo intellectual behavior.

That sort of emotive knee jerk negativity is NOT an idication of intellectual ability. Quit the opposet. One can see that level of "intellect" in action on any high school campus a hundred times a day.

[MNJohnnie]

Find it odd how you ran around for the last two weeks screaming Hate Rummy Talking points and now suddenly the Democrats are pushing for a Vote of No Confidence on Rummy So are you just this politically ignorant or are you actively working for the Democrats?

Curious how your posting march 100% in lock step with the current DNC Campaign propaganda. Why is that?

[oceanview]

read the article in post #5 - the Dems are never going to be able to explain those kinds of details to an average american - that's my only point.

[MNJohnnie]

Looking at your 100% negative posting habits plus your complete inability to EVER say anything negative about the Democrat Party Leadership, I suspect this article explains pretty much where you two are coming from.

Viral Marketing in the Political Game


http://abaraxas.blogspot.com/2006/02/viral-marketing-in-political-game.html#links

This article, originally published in 04, seems to fit closely with the campaign tactics today. Here is the original link to my article: http://www.mbaassociation.org/index.php?name=Articles&op=show&id=518

Have you noticed similar political comments strewn through message boards around the Internet? Do you think it is ironic that many average folks seem to come up with the same thoughts? This is no coincidence! In 2004 the Democratic party is capitalizing on the newest marketing trend, viral marketing. Viral marketing describes any strategy that encourages individuals to pass on a marketing message to others, creating the potential for exponential growth in the message's exposure and influence.

http://www.wilsonweb.com/wmt5/viral-principles.htm

This is not happenstance either. I have been an almost religious lurker on DNC message boards and have even sat in on party strategy conference calls, thanks to some of my Democrats for Bush friends forwarding e-mails invites to me. I noticed about six months ago comments coming up about some new strategies the DNC was planning and ways to maximize these social engineering techniques learned from viral marketing firms.

The following are just a few of the current viral marketing and social engineering strategies the DNC is using and ratcheting up to levels never seen before:

Fake Blogs- Have you noticed the consistency of the messages many bloggers have, especially from the hate-Bush crowd. There is actually a group of Democrats who are creating hundreds of fake blogs, each with a unique identity, repeating the same message. Many of these blogs have even inspired news editorials. Read any articles by Molly Ivins lately?
Urban Legend E-Mail Campaigns- We have all received e-mails with some, completely false urban legend, such as the President closing hospitals or cutting vet benefits. Typically these were sent by someone you knew, and received by someone they knew. The hope behind these e-mail campaigns is not to alert people of facts, but instead to spread as much doubt as possible, even though it is spread by obvious falsities.
Message Board Artists- The message board ‘artists’ main goal is to, according to DNC strategy, is to frequent common right-wing sites, such as the Free Republic, and post comments or the aforementioned urban legends. The focus is to create splits within the Republican ranks. There is a focused effort to create rifts in the Republicans by bringing up issues, such as immigration or balanced budget, that they know are hotspots and could cause many Republicans to doubt the party and possibly not vote. These artists even frequent non-political sites inserting comments here and there, spreading the virus of their lies.
Article Passing- Articles, such as the tripe written by Molly Ivins, are passed along and photocopied. One person may pick up a copy of an article at their local DNC headquarters, union office, teacher's lounge, etc. The article is so 'interesting' that they would most likely want to share that article.
False Anger- We all have seen message board postings where a very long article is posted trashing the president, then near the bottom is one tiny comment about how wrong the author is. The point of some of these posts is not to trash the article but to get the article read. Again, planting the seeds of doubt and spreading false messages.

Be aware that the entire focus of this viral marketing strategy is to have the threads of doubt spread throughout the voting public. They don’t care if the information is false. To the left, it is all about power.

Be aware of these strategies, and instead of ignoring them, fight! Do not let urban legends go unchallenged. Challenge message board posters who you know are wrong. Use truth to challenge the lies

[meandog]

Find it odd how you ran around for the last two weeks screaming Hate Rummy Talking points and now suddenly the Democrats are pushing for a Vote of No Confidence on Rummy So are you just this politically ignorant or are you actively working for the Democrats?

I don't hate anyone and I am definitely NOT a dim (dyed-in-the-wool libertarian). I'm not saying the president isn't a nice man you'd like to have a beer with, but I am saying he lacks good leadership skills. He's been vague on laying out that the GWOT means that we're in a war against all of those embracing jihad (as evidenced that it was only a week or so ago that the administration finally got around to the term "islamofacist")--well, I've known that we've been in a war against Islam since the USS Cole bombing (the day a good friend lost his son).

[MNJohnnie]

You can claim anything you like. We have no way of verify but we CAN look at thrends from your previous postings. Kind makes it clear which side you REALLY are on.

[goldstategop]

Bush turned the table on them. The Democrats will be forced to defend Al Qaeda and to not support a wartime President. Both of which are politically stupid moves. If they want to do that - they're invited to filibuster protecting our country against the very terrorists who attacked us on 9/11.

(No more Olmert! No more Kadima! No more Oslo! )

[pleikumud]

The Democrats have been giving aid and comfort to the enemy for at least five years, so nothing has changed.

[Elsiejay]

The Dems are screwed?? Terrorists now are to be tried as war criminals in U. S. courts, fully defended by Ramsey Clark and a panoply of volunteer ACLU enemies of liberty, who will claim, in part, that inasmuch as the Congress has not formally declared war on anyone these "illegally" detained defendants cannot be guilty of war crimes. That will be merely one step in a campaign to tie these prosecutions in judicial knots forever. Such are the fruits of federal judges assuming control over the prosecution of a war. And you say the Dems are screwed? Instead, America is being screwed.

[goldstategop]

Yeah but they've always been able to pull off rhetorical tricks to do that - here Bush is forcing them to make a choice between pandering to Daily Kos and the Jihad Cindy kooks or looking out for their own political survival. Its gonna be fun to watch.

(No more Olmert! No more Kadima! No more Oslo! )

[MattinNJ]

We want Ramsey Clark, the ACLU, and the Moonbats to come out into the light. Since they hold the dem purse strings, the dems will have no choice but to fight this....and get pummeled beyond recognition.

I went to see a mindless action flick, "Crank" this weekend. The main character throws a paki cab driver out of his cab and onto the streets and yelss "Al Queda, Al Queda" whereupon two little old ladies proceed to break every bone in the cab drivers body. That is how America feels and that is something the cocktail inner beltway elites do not understand.

Let the dems step right in front of this train.

[meandog]

..you Bushbots are all alike--paranoid, super sensitive to criticism, defensive to the point that you cannot parry with reasonable argument, complacent about any mistakes the administration makes, and deaf to the truth.

Again, the president is a nice guy (I even voted for him twice)...but the captain of the Titanic was probably a nice guy too. My point: We've hit an iceberg in the GWOT and it's time to face 3 facts: (1.) Repair the damage, (2.) swim (3.) sink.
If there is a sectarian civil war in Iraq and we must pull out it will be the fault of Rumsfeld for not having enough troops to have prevented it and Bush for backing him.
If we have another attack on the U.S. and it is determined that the terrorists penetrated our borders it will be the fault of Chernoff for not having enough resources in place to have prevented it and Bush for backing him.
If we have a complete and total Democratic takeover of both the House and the Senate, it will be the fault of Ken Mehlman for not having the political skills to prevented it, and Bush for backing him.

Now, I came up through the Navy, MNJohnnie, and I learned the HARD WAY about ultimate accountability--it's time you did too!

[MNJohnnie]

Sorry your actions don't match your posting behavior. Pretty obvious you are a Dem pretending to be a "Betrayed Conservative". Mindless knee jerk critism of everything is the exact same intellectual posture of those mythical people you accuse of being "Bushbots"

[meandog]

Oh yeah, real "Dem" here LOL...well, I have been here longer than you have gopher boy! I've been here long enough to recognize "flip-flops" and I can name you a dozen just in the last year that the administration has made--including the turn-around today on Al Qeida prisoner status--flip flops the size of Kerry and Clinton, and you cannot name me even one that a "real" president (Reagan) made.
Well, gotta go and flush the "johnnie"...you know what they say: "If it's yellow let it mellow, if it's brown and round flush it down.

[MNJohnnie]

Intresting. Knowingly or unknowingly your are acting as a Democrat Virtual Campaigner with your 100% hyper negativity. Surprise us. Actually attack the Democrats 1/5th as offen as you attack the Republicans. Then we might take you seriously.

[meandog]

Actually attack the Democrats 1/5th as offen as you attack the Republicans. Then we might take you seriously...

Look it up: Democrats I've attacked (viciously): Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton, Al Gore, John Kerry, Ted Kennedy, Dick Durbin, Pat Leahy, Barbara Boxer, Harry Reid, Tom Dashile, Barbara Mikulski, Jimmy Carter, Sheila Jackson-Lee, Cynthia McKinney, Barney Frank, Henry Waxman, John Conyers, Maxine Waters, Diane Feinstein, Jim Moran.
Democrats I've attacked (not as viciously): Lieberman, Dingle, Ford, Hoyer, Obama, Miller, Nelson, Landreau, Feingold.

Republicans I've attacked (but not as viciously as Dems): Bush, Rumsfeld, Cheney, Wolfowitz, Allen, Lott, Thurmond, McConnell.
(Republicans never attacked): McCain, Graham, Coverdale, Cochran, Dole, Frisk, Hatch, and just about every other Senator and House member.
(Democrats never attacked): Bob Kerrey, John Glenn.

[WOSG]

"They will act like they are going along with it at first, but eventually their hatred for Bush and their nut case base will push them over the cliff."

They cant go along with this ... all along we were told that Gitmo was another Gulag, that the WOT was a diversion, that Bush advocated torture ... all the Democrats whole political agenda is about how everything Bush does is a failure.

If they agree, they will have admitted they were wrong all along.

If they obstruct, they will have handed an issue to the Republicans.

Let me be the first to predict the Democrats will howl 'at the timing of it'.

[WOSG]

"Bush led, Democrats fled"


"Democrats lied while terrorist victims died"

[ladyinred]

It is just such a shame, or disgrace or something that he HAD to say this , or that it has to be done this way. I am so freaking appalled at all of this I cannot tell you.

[EyeGuy]

"We will find you, and we will bring you to justice."

I know he has to phrase it that way, but the "bring you to justice" thing smacks of long-drawn out comfortable trials in beautifully panelled Americn courtrooms.

Weak.

He should at least IMPLY a tireless hunt, a relentless stalking of this scum leading to an inevitable end, a wasted, meaningless death in some squalid corner of THEIR backward, barbaric $hitnole of a country at the hands of the US military.

[danamco]

The Democrats have been giving aid and comfort to the enemy for at least five years, so nothing has changed.

For more of the truth read this book, a bullseye!................

A must read book, scary stuff!!!

[WOSG]

"The Dems are screwed?? Terrorists now are to be tried as war criminals in U. S. courts, fully defended by Ramsey Clark and a panoply of volunteer ACLU enemies of liberty, who will claim, in part, that inasmuch as the Congress has not formally declared war on anyone these "illegally" detained defendants cannot be guilty of war crimes."

This is not true, that is not what is required nor planned (there are still military tribunals but USSC ruling requires some Congressional action to specific rules) but even if it were, it would definitely help expose the anti-American terrorist supporters for who they really are.

[KoRn]

"If they agree, they will have admitted they were wrong all along."

That will be their trick. They will appear to agree at first, and then work to undermine the legislation when it comes to negotiations and amendments. The MSM will try to give them cover so the 'new media' better be watching as always to call them on it.

[oceanview]

he is the one poster that, even when you AGREE with him, he still wants to argue with you.

[bert]

There is a growing puddle of Rat blood on the floor

[bert]

You overlook the power of repetition. By saying the names over and over and over the point will bee made that action was sucessful.