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CA: Schwarzenegger vetoes bill on gay protections in textbooks
ap on Riverside Press Enterprise ^ | 9/6/06 | AP

Posted on 09/06/2006 12:56:18 PM PDT by NormsRevenge

SACRAMENTO

Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger vetoed a bill Wednesday that would have barred textbooks from using language that would be discriminatory to gays, saying the state's education laws already prevent discrimination.

The bill's author, state Sen. Sheila Kuehl, called the veto "inexplicable."

Kuehl's bill initially would have required California's social science textbooks to include the historical contributions of homosexuals, but the state Assembly amended it at her request in an effort to avoid a veto from the Republican governor.

The final version of SB 1437 would have prohibited any negative portrayal of homosexuals in textbooks and other instructional material, expanding current anti-discrimination laws that apply to minorities.

But in a veto message, Schwarzenegger said California's education code already prohibits discrimination in schools and says everyone is entitled to "equal rights and opportunities in our state educational institutions, regardless of their sex, ethnic group, race, national origin, religion, disability and sexual orientation."

"I and this administration are firmly committed to the vigorous enforcement of these protections," he said.

Kuehl, D-Santa Monica, expressed frustration over the veto and said she had explicitly changed the legislation to address the governor's opposition.

"I an extremely disappointed that the governor chose to respond to a small, shrill group of right-wing extremists rather than a fair-minded majority of Californians who support this reasonable measure," she said in a statement.

Kuehl said lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender students are still vulnerable to discrimination in instructional materials and school activities.

Schwarzenegger said the bill barred any materials or activities that "reflect adversely" on people, which was vague and potentially confusing. He said it "would not strengthen this important area of legal protection from bias based on sexual orientation."

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On the Net: Read the bill at http://www.senate.ca.gov


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections; US: California
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1 posted on 09/06/2006 12:56:19 PM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

Is this the Dobie Gillis lezbo?


2 posted on 09/06/2006 12:58:02 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Our troops will send all of the worlds terrorists to hell in a handbasket with no virgins!)
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To: FairOpinion; onyx

YAY!!!


3 posted on 09/06/2006 12:58:13 PM PDT by b9 ("the [evil Marxist liberal socialist Democrat Party] alternative is unthinkable" ~ Jim Robinson)
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To: NormsRevenge

She is responding to a small, shrill minority that thinks their lifestyle is somehow afforded civil rights.


4 posted on 09/06/2006 12:59:07 PM PDT by Paloma_55 (I may be a hateful bigot, but I still love you)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Yes it is.


5 posted on 09/06/2006 12:59:38 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (The man who said "there's no such thing as a stupid question" has never talked to Helen Thomas.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Sheila Kuehl is a professional lesbian and a pest. Why they keep voting her in is beyond me.


6 posted on 09/06/2006 1:00:24 PM PDT by szweig
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To: NormsRevenge

Wow...unexpected


7 posted on 09/06/2006 1:00:25 PM PDT by Drango (A liberal's compassion is limited only by the size of someone else's wallet.)
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To: NormsRevenge

"I an extremely disappointed that the governor chose to respond to a small, shrill group of right-wing extremists rather than a fair-minded majority of Californians who support this reasonable measure," she said in a statement.

--

Zelda is nothing more than an ungrateful wench, considering all the legislation he has signed in support of her agenda in his first term.


8 posted on 09/06/2006 1:01:15 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......Help the "Pendleton 8' and families -- http://www.freerepublic.com/~normsrevenge/)
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To: stephenjohnbanker; Hillarys Gate Cult

If Dobie had only taken one for the team, . . .


9 posted on 09/06/2006 1:01:51 PM PDT by SmithL (The fact that they can't find Hoffa is proof that he never existed.)
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To: NormsRevenge

"Educators" who attempt to legislate personal agendas into educational material?! Not that it matters all that much, even 5 year olds are aware that teacher is wrong about just about everything except math.

And they're working on math...socialist math is kinda tricky to teach...


10 posted on 09/06/2006 1:02:50 PM PDT by wvobiwan (BOYCOTT NYT, LAT, AP, Reuters, CNN, CBS, ABC, NBC, BBC, WaPo, Haaretz, and ALL leftist rags!!!)
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To: NormsRevenge
The final version of SB 1437 would have prohibited any negative portrayal of homosexuals in textbooks and other instructional material, expanding current anti-discrimination laws that apply to minorities.

Like when they sexually assault children?

11 posted on 09/06/2006 1:03:21 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: NormsRevenge
"Kuehl said lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender students are still vulnerable to discrimination in instructional materials and school activities."

Since when does sexuality need to be included in the curriculum? We had our instruction in 5th grade about the difference between boys and girls. If you don't want them thinking nonstop about sex, bring back sports and choir and stop whining about equal rights. In some ways, boys and girls just are not the same.
12 posted on 09/06/2006 1:03:28 PM PDT by Froufrou
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To: NormsRevenge
The bill's author, state Sen. Sheila Kuehl, called the veto "inexplicable."

No, Mzzzz. Kuehl, it's you and yours who are "inexplicable."

13 posted on 09/06/2006 1:04:19 PM PDT by Hebrews 11:6 (Do you REALLY believe that (1) God is, and (2) God is good?)
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To: NormsRevenge

Because California really has the money to fund this...


14 posted on 09/06/2006 1:06:31 PM PDT by TrogdortheBurninator (Masters, remember that I am an ass: though it be not written down, yet forget not that I am an ass!)
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To: NormsRevenge

This is really great news. So many families has gone to home schooling because of all the gay junk being taught in
the schools.


15 posted on 09/06/2006 1:07:10 PM PDT by sam I am
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Then

Now

16 posted on 09/06/2006 1:09:27 PM PDT by Enterprise (Let's not enforce laws that are already on the books, let's just write new laws we won't enforce.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Remember, there is NO difference between Democrats and Republicans...


17 posted on 09/06/2006 1:22:42 PM PDT by goldfinch
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To: szweig

She ''represents'' Santa Monica. Need any more be said?


18 posted on 09/06/2006 1:32:05 PM PDT by SAJ ("Who doesn't jump is a French!!")
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To: NormsRevenge

What a waste of time! All the time and money spent writing the bill, then changing the bill, and the gov. had to waste his time reading it and thank goodness, vetoing it! Doesn't she have anything better to do, like a Dobie Gillis reunion show????


19 posted on 09/06/2006 1:35:58 PM PDT by reportgirl73 (I wish I had a clever tagline....)
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To: szweig

When does she get termed out?


20 posted on 09/06/2006 1:46:02 PM PDT by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON!)
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To: NormsRevenge

OK, I give up! What textbook says bad things about gays and lesbians? They must of really changed since I was in school.


21 posted on 09/06/2006 1:46:05 PM PDT by wolfcreek (You can spit in our tacos and you can rape our dogs but, you can't take away our freedom!)
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To: NormsRevenge

Kuehl said lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender students are still vulnerable to discrimination in instructional materials and school activities.

Sheila Kuehl is a liar.

I have personally read my kid's textbooks as they worked their way through the California school system.
They are some of the most PC textbooks you can imagine.
Since I also volunteer in the classroom and know what is going on....the same is true of the instructional materials. I have NEVER seen anything that was hostile towards gays.

The bill was a power grab aimed at forcing her lifestyle on all of California's children. She ought to be ashamed of herself.


22 posted on 09/06/2006 1:49:32 PM PDT by bordergal (John)
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To: goldfinch

would you say that applies to climate change as well?


23 posted on 09/06/2006 1:57:41 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......Help the "Pendleton 8' and families -- http://www.freerepublic.com/~normsrevenge/)
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To: NormsRevenge

And the sad thing is, tricks like this turn "live and let live" types (which I used to be) into the exact opposite.

Stupid move, Sheila.


24 posted on 09/06/2006 1:58:41 PM PDT by bordergal (John)
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To: stephenjohnbanker; goldstategop
Maybe we should persuade Dobie to give her a belated tumble and, ummmmmm, straighten her out!

Meanwhile, good for Ahhhhnold. I did not think he had it in him. Glad to have been wrong on what he would do on this bill.

25 posted on 09/06/2006 2:02:12 PM PDT by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

Great tagline : )


26 posted on 09/06/2006 2:11:41 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Our troops will send all of the worlds terrorists to hell in a handbasket with no virgins!)
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To: NormsRevenge

27 posted on 09/06/2006 2:11:57 PM PDT by Gritty (Liberals want the destruction of the USA. But they get to keep their houses in Amagansett-A Coulter)
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To: szweig

Santa Monica is still trying to impeach Nixon.


28 posted on 09/06/2006 2:13:12 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Our troops will send all of the worlds terrorists to hell in a handbasket with no virgins!)
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To: NormsRevenge
would you say that applies to climate change as well?

Actually, my original post was meant to be sarcastic. I should have put a little /sarc after it.
29 posted on 09/06/2006 2:15:16 PM PDT by goldfinch
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To: SmithL

: )


30 posted on 09/06/2006 2:16:14 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Our troops will send all of the worlds terrorists to hell in a handbasket with no virgins!)
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To: Enterprise

She grew older, not up : )


31 posted on 09/06/2006 2:17:16 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Our troops will send all of the worlds terrorists to hell in a handbasket with no virgins!)
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To: szweig
Sheila Kuehl is a professional lesbian and a pest. Why they keep voting her in is beyond me.

She's a Kalifornia moderate.

32 posted on 09/06/2006 2:19:58 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Lancey Howard

If Kuehl is a "moderate" then what is the rest of her party? Marxists?


33 posted on 09/06/2006 2:21:03 PM PDT by darkangel82 (Higher visibility leads to greater zottability.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Good Job, Arnold! Next?
AB 606 - Safe Place to Learn Act
Assemblymember Lloyd Levine (D-Van Nuys)
Would require school districts to establish and publicize an antidiscrimination and anti-harassment policy that prohibits discrimination and harassment as specified under current law, including, but not limited to, actual or perceived gender identity and sexual orientation and provides penalties for school districts found to be in violation of that law, including withholding relevant state funding to school districts.
Status: Enrolled. Awaiting Governor's signature.

AB 1056 - Tolerance Education Pilot Program
Assemblymember Chu, D-Monterey Park
Would require the State Board of Education to develop a pilot project integrating intergroup relations and tolerance curriculum into the English and Social Science framework. Would direct the Board of Education to consult with human relations commissions and individuals and groups that are protected by California’s hate crimes legislation.  Defines tolerance to mean "attitudes and behaviors that convey respect toward individuals and groups, especially those individuals and groups that have been, and continue to be, systematically and historically marginalized.  Tolerance does not mean a passive allowance or indulgence of the beliefs or practices of another individual."
Status: Enrolled. Awaiting Governor's signature.

AB 1160 - Gwen Araujo Justice for Victims Act
Assemblymember Sally Lieber (D-San Jose)
Would amend jury instructions to state that the use of societal bias, including so-called "panic strategies," to influence any criminal trial or proceeding is not permitted. It would also appropriate $125,000 to the Office of the Attorney General to develop materials for county prosecutors explaining how panic strategies are used to encourage jurors to respond to societal bias and providing best practices for preventing bias from affecting the outcome of a trial. This legislation is named in the memory of a transgender teenager from Newark, Calif., who was attacked and killed in 2002.
Status: Enrolled. Awaiting Governor's signature.

SB 1827 - State Income Tax Equity Act of 2006
Senator Carole Migden (D-San Francisco)
Amends the tax and family codes to enable registered domestic partners to require registered domestic partners to file a personal income tax return jointly or separately by applying the standards applicable to married couples under federal income tax law. 
Status: Enrolled. Awaiting Governor's signature.

AB 2800 - Civil Rights Housing Act of 2006
Assemblymember John Laird (D-Santa Cruz)
Would standardize various housing-related nondiscrimination provisions in California law to make them consistent with the Fair Employment and Housing Act (FEHA) which prohibits discrimination in housing on the basis of race, color, religion, national origin, ancestry, disability, sex (including gender identity), marital status, sexual orientation, familial status and source of income. AB 2800 is the third bill in a series of nondiscrimination bills authored by Assemblymember Laird to modify major sections of the California Code to specify that people are protected from discrimination regardless of their sexual orientation or gender identity. (See also AB 2900, Employment:  Discrimination, passed in 2004 and AB 1400, The Unruh Civil Rights Act of 2005 signed in November 2005)
Status: Enrolled. Awaiting Governor's signature.

AB 2920 - Older Californians Equality and Protection Act
Assemblymember Mark Leno (D-San Francisco)
Would amend the Welfare and Institutions Act to add actual or perceived sexual orientation and gender identity, as well as other categories currently protected under the Fair Employment and Housing Act (FEHA), to the list of factors that the Department of Aging and Area Agencies on Aging consider when assessing the need for state services and planning how to implement them.
Status: Enrolled. Awaiting Governor's signature.

AB 1207 - Code of Fair Campaign Practices
Speaker pro Tem Leland Yee (D-San Francisco)
Would prohibit the use of any negative appeal based on sexual orientation or gender identity by candidates or campaign committees who sign the voluntary pledge provided for in the Code of Fair Campaign Practices.
Status: Enrolled. Awaiting Governor's signature.

AB 2051 - Equality in Prevention and Services for Domestic Abuse Act
Assemblymember Rebecca Cohn (D-Saratoga)
Would establish the Equality in Prevention and Services for Domestic Abuse Fund, a continuously appropriated fund to establish training and services for lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender (LGBT) victims of domestic violence.  The fund would support a variety of initiatives, including an educational brochure on LGBT domestic abuse to be distributed along with domestic partnership certificates, grants to support shelters that serve LGBT victims of domestic abuse, and LGBT-specific trainings for law enforcement and domestic violence service providers.
Status: Enrolled. Awaiting Governor's signature.

AB 2076 - Drug paraphernalia: clean needle and syringe exchange projects.
Assemblymember Laird, D-Santa Cruz
Would allow state General Funds for HIV prevention to support locally-authorized needle exchange programs and allow such programs to use funds to purchase sterile hypodermic needles and syringes.
Status: Enrolled. Awaiting Governor's signature.

AB 2510 - Pupils: survey: harassment
Assembly Member Ted Lieu, D-El Segundo
Requires local education agencies to administer a survey of the experience of pupils with harassment and bullying, including bias-related discrimination and harassment based on race, religion, disability, and actual or perceived gender identity and sexual orientation as specified in current law and require the Attorney General to prepare an annual report based on these surveys.
Status: Enrolled. Awaiting Governor's signature.

SB 1654 - Voting: absentee ballot
Senator Deborah Ortiz, D-Sacramento
Existing law authorizes eligible voters to vote by absentee ballot and authorizes a county elections official to deliver an absentee ballot to the absent voter's spouse or parent.  This bill would additionally authorize delivery of an absentee ballot to the absentee voter's child, parent, grandparent, grandchild, or sibling, or a person residing in the same household as the absent voter, who is 16 years of age or older.  This would include any cohabitating domestic partner.
Status: Enrolled. Awaiting Governor's signature.

AB 2386 - Code of Fair Campaign Practices
Assembly Member Jenny Oropeza, D-Carson
Would require the California Secretary of State to post the Code of Fair Campaign Practices on his or her website, along with a list of candidates for state or federal office who have subscribed to the code.  The passage of this bill and AB 1207 would allow Californians to know which candidates have agreed to avoid campaign practices that denigrate lesbian, gay, and bisexual persons.
Status: Enrolled. Awaiting Governor's signature.

SB 1437 - Bias Free Cirriculum Act
Senator Sheila Kuehl (D-Santa Monica)
Prohibits instruction, or the adoption of any instructional material, that reflects adversely on persons due to sexual orientation.  Revises the social sciences course of study to include study of the role and contributions of people who are lesbian, gay, bisexual, or transgender to the development of California and the nation with emphasis on their role in contemporary society.
Status: Vetoed by the Governor 09/06/06. Read veto message Here

SB 1441 - Nondiscrimination in State Programs and Activities
Senator Sheila Kuehl (D-Santa Monica)
Would add "sexual orientation" to the characteristics on which discrimination may not be based, in any program or activity that is conducted, operated, or administered by the state or any state agency or by any agency funded directly by the state or that receives any financial assistance from the state.  The bill also would incorporate the definition of "sex" and "sexual orientation" contained in the Fair Employment and Housing Act into this provision relating to state and state-funded  programs or activities, and clarify that the perception of any of the characteristics listed in the anti-discrimination statute is also covered.
Status: Signed by the Governor 8/28/06

AB 2371 - Employment arbitration agreements
Assemblymember Levine, D-Van Nuys
Would require that arbitration agreements between employers and employees be voluntary for sexual orientation and other employment discrimination claims under the Fair Employment and Housing Act.  Specifies that a FEHA-covered employer may not take adverse employment action against a person for refusing to waive these protections and procedures, and would make unenforceable any arbitration agreement between an employer and employee contrary to the bill's provision.
Status: Failed to pass Assembly.


34 posted on 09/06/2006 2:36:11 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: NormsRevenge
Full text of the veto message:
To the Members of the California State Senate:

No teacher or textbook in our schools should ever intentionally demean or disparage any group in our society, including discrimination based on sexual orientation.

I am vetoing Senate Bill 1437 because this bill attempts to offer vague protection when current law already provides clear protection against discrimination in our schools based on sexual orientation.

Education Code section 200 referring to Penal Code section 422.55 governing “hate crimes”, provides that “It is the policy of the State of California to afford all persons in the public schools, equal rights and opportunities in our state educational institutions, regardless of their sex, ethnic group, race, national origin, religion, disability and sexual orientation.

Education Code section 220 expands the protection of section 200, prohibiting such discrimination in “any program or activity” conducted by an educational institution. In addition, Education Code section 60045, subdivision (a), provides that all instructional materials shall be “accurate, objective, and current and suited to the needs and comprehension of pupils at their respective grade levels.”

This protection specifically covers school programs, activities, instruction and instructional materials. I and this administration are firmly committed to the vigorous enforcement of these protections.

SB 1437 deals exclusively with Education Code sections 51500, 51501, and 60044 prohibiting instruction, materials and activities that “reflect adversely” on persons. Not only is this term extremely vague, and potentially confusing, but I am not aware of any published case brought under these code sections in which individuals within the protected classes have successfully protected their rights under these statutes. But courts have confirmed that individuals in the protected classes can state a legal claim for violation of education Code section 200 and 220.

Therefore, since the Education Code already specifically protects against discrimination to groups based on their sexual orientation and includes programs, instructions and instructional materials. I am vetoing this bill because the vagueness of the term “reflects adversely” would not strengthen this important area of legal protection from bias based on sexual orientation.

Sincerely,

Arnold Schwarzenegger


35 posted on 09/06/2006 2:42:34 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: goldfinch

no problem, I hardly ever use the tag either. ;-)


36 posted on 09/06/2006 2:56:10 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ......Help the "Pendleton 8' and families -- http://www.freerepublic.com/~normsrevenge/)
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To: calcowgirl
One veto does not stem the GLBT tide. Its like putting a pin into a leaky dam.

(No more Olmert! No more Kadima! No more Oslo! )

37 posted on 09/06/2006 3:57:14 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: NormsRevenge
To edit for accuracy:
The bill's author, state Sen. Sheila Kuehl, called the veto failure to obey orders from the diversity police "inexplicable." [The Governor and anyone else who will not fall in line will be dealt with harshly.]
38 posted on 09/06/2006 3:57:19 PM PDT by fwdude (LEFT LANE ENDS . . . MERGE RIGHT)
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To: NormsRevenge
The bill's author, state Sen. Sheila Kuehl, called the veto "inexplicable"

Thousands and thousands of California voters wrote, call, stampeded, flier'd, called-in, etc, to reps, the governor, newspapers, teachers, principals, talk radio -- AGAINST Sheila's Bill, Arnold Vetoed it.. and she calls his behavior... "inexplicable".

"...Inexplicable"...? lollling... LOL!

Offer another one Sheila.. lol...But you need to spend more of YOUR money on selling this one to the public, Sheila.

39 posted on 09/06/2006 5:31:18 PM PDT by Alia
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To: wolfcreek
What textbook says bad things about gays and lesbians?

The most read text book and the perennial sales leader in the US, regardless of genre, The Bible, touches on that subject.

I can't say that the Bible says bad things about this form of deviancy but it certainly doesn't promote it. The key passage that rings in my ear: For the wages of sin is death

40 posted on 09/06/2006 5:56:37 PM PDT by Amerigomag
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To: bordergal
I have NEVER seen anything that was hostile towards gays.

Are the textbooks, stories and novels exclusively heterosexual in perspective?

I imagine the hostility that exists is among peers rather than within the classroom material in public schools.

41 posted on 09/06/2006 6:45:07 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Support Arnold-McClintock or embrace high taxes, gay weddings with Angelides.)
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To: calcowgirl; newzjunkey
Good Job, Arnold!

Had to mark this post, it may never happen again! ;)

42 posted on 09/06/2006 6:47:08 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Support Arnold-McClintock or embrace high taxes, gay weddings with Angelides.)
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To: Amerigomag
The key passage that rings in my ear: For the wages of sin is death

Do you interpret that as meaning non-existence after earthly demise? If so, that probably fancies many unfortunately atheist homosexuals just fine.

43 posted on 09/06/2006 6:51:19 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Support Arnold-McClintock or embrace high taxes, gay weddings with Angelides.)
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To: newzjunkey; calcowgirl; Amerigomag; ElkGroveDan; Carry_Okie
"Had to mark this post, it may never happen again!"

Ahem... I think I'll quietly follow suit!!!

44 posted on 09/06/2006 6:56:23 PM PDT by SierraWasp (With government as your savior from disaster, it must first be your master!!!)
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To: newzjunkey

Of course, but that is not what's implied by her statement.

As far as hostility from peers, there is no need to create protected classes. Set a high standard of behavior for ALL students (regardless of race, gender, etc etc), and hold them to it.

As far as the material being exclusively heterosexual, the books most often have nothing to do with sexuality, as is appropriate. I don't read Huckleberry Finn, for example, for it's perspective on sex.

Nor do I want the State deciding that my first grader is required to read "Prince and Prince" or "Heather Has Two Mommies". That is WAY out of line.

I have the old fashioned notion that private life is just that, private.


45 posted on 09/06/2006 7:03:57 PM PDT by bordergal (John)
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To: SierraWasp; calcowgirl
Children, dogs and politicians respond to the same, effective, training techniques.

1) Praise and reward desired behavior.
2) Introduce negative consequences for undersireable behavior.

Calcowgirl did good. Praised the desired behavior and implied further reward if the desired behavior was repeated.

She can have a job training California's Democrat Dingos or Austrian Pinscher any day she wishes

46 posted on 09/06/2006 7:19:35 PM PDT by Amerigomag
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To: newzjunkey
Had to mark this post, it may never happen again! ;)

It's happened before, and I hope it happens a lot in the future... but that will be based on the actions of the Governor. Positive actions get praise, negative actictions get criticism. There are a whole slew more GLBT bills to veto, as I listed. And then there is that other horrendous legislation: Single-Payer Healthcare, Global Warming, Minimum Wage, Electoral College Compacts, Drivers Licenses for Illegals, etc... I'll anxiously await vetoes!

47 posted on 09/06/2006 7:36:52 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: Amerigomag

LOL. Thanks -- I think. :-)


48 posted on 09/06/2006 7:37:35 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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To: newzjunkey; calcowgirl
Had to mark this post, it may never happen again! ;)

I agree the odds of him doing a good job on anything are diminishing every day. This is indeed a rare fluke.

49 posted on 09/06/2006 8:37:22 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (The California Republican Party needs Arnold the way a drowning man needs an anvil.)
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To: ElkGroveDan

Some of our resident Log Cabin representatives must believe that vetoing one GLBT bill deserves grand praise from conservatives and that all others should be accepted as law without objection. They won't acknowledge that it is the record that counts--as measured against the GOP Platform, NOT Angelides.

I do hope he vetos some more of the destructive legislation, but seeing as he sponsored much of it, I won't hold my breath.


50 posted on 09/06/2006 10:28:47 PM PDT by calcowgirl ("Liberalism is just Communism sold by the drink." P. J. O'Rourke)
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