Skip to comments.ISLAM-HATERS: AN ENEMY WITHIN
Posted on 09/07/2006 10:49:07 AM PDT by presidio9
ISLAMIST fanatics attacked us and yearn to destroy us. The Muslim civilization of the Middle East has failed comprehensively and will continue to generate violence. The only way to deal with faith-poisoned terrorists is to kill them. And the world's only hope for long-term peace is for moderate Muslims - by far the majority around the globe - to recapture their own faith.
But a rotten core of American extremists is out to make it harder for them.
The most repugnant trend in the American shouting match that passes for a debate on the struggle with Islamist terrorism isn't the irresponsible nonsense on the left - destructive though that is. The really ugly "domestic insurgency" is among right-wing extremists bent on discrediting honorable conservatism.
How? By insisting that Islam can never reform, that the violent conquest and subjugation of unbelievers is the faith's primary agenda - and, when you read between the lines, that all Muslims are evil and subhuman.
I've received no end of e-mails and letters seeking to "enlighten" me about the insidious nature of Islam. Convinced that I'm naive because I defend American Muslims and refuse to "see" that Islam is 100 percent evil, the writers warn that I'm a foolish "dhimmi," blind to the conspiratorial nature of Islam.
Web sites list no end of extracts from historical documents and Islamic jurisprudence "proving" that holy war against Christians and Jews is the alpha and omega of the Muslim faith. The message between the lines: Muslims are Untermenschen.
We've been here before, folks. Bigotry is bigotry - even when disguised as patriotism. And, invariably, the haters fantasizing about a merciless Crusade never bothered to serve in our military (Hey, guys, there's still time to join. Lay your backsides on
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Is 'Jihad' central to Islam? Ralph?
Islam has had the same relationship with the rest of the world for 1300 years. And we are going to turn them into Episcopalians this decade?
Shouldn't this have a barf alert?
I hate it when people fail to distinguish between discrimination based on what a person is, and discrimination based on what a person does or believes. Hating a person because they're Arab is racism. Hating a person because they want to slay the infidels is wise.
37% of British Muslims believe it is acceptable to murder their Jewish neighbors.
I agree that Islam is not 100% evil, but a huge minority is clearly evil. Genocide is their program, and the other 63% are not (often) calling them out.
How does one "reform" a religion where the central text is believed to have been dictated verbatim by an Angel as Allahs word, and which states the psychotic prophet of same is the last prophet and his works can never be changed? How does reform work in that situation?
I guess Ralph Peters should just take the advice of the President of Iran and CONVERT. He obviously has no interest in standing up for himself.
Yep. There are none so blind as those who will not see.
"I know that all teachers and my calculator tell me that 2 + 2 = 4, but that doesn't mean I have to accept it!"
"By insisting that Islam can never reform, that the violent conquest and subjugation of unbelievers is the faith's primary agenda - and, when you read between the lines, that all Muslims are evil and subhuman. "
So someone is reading my posts.
Looks like Ralphie got a talking-to from his muslim owners. Ralph, be sure to face Mecca when yielding your buttocks to your masters. And while you're down there, read the Koran.
BTW, your moral-equivalence defense of muslims is disgusting. This "religion" has not been hijacked by radicals--the warrior code is being followed to the letter by muzzie fundamentalists.
Expand your horizons, half-wit, and do your own research.
"But those who warn of Muslims in general are heirs of the creeps who once told us Jews can never be real Americans and JFK will serve the Vatican."
There is a world of difference in the *reasonableness* of the claim that Muslims will blow you up and the two strawman claims listed in his article.
This is another one that ought to have his head bopped for issuing blind stupidity and trying to pass it off and "enlightenment." As my grandmamma would've said, "He better hope it down't rain --- his nose is so stuck up in the air he'll drown!" On second thought, maybe I do hope it rains!!
The vast majority of the 63% will not speak out against the 37% because Muslims are not supposed to speak against other Muslims (unless it is Sunnis attacking Shia or Arab Muslims Kurdish co-religionists). Anything that puts Islam in the least bit of bad light is considered bad form. Hence, the uproar over the use of "Islamic fascism," even though the term is entirely accurate.
I think the title suffices
I defend American Muslims and refuse to "see" that Islam is 100 percent evil
True. The breakdown is more likely....
25% direct support of terrorists i.e. charities etc.
50% don't support terrorism, but would be glad if they win and thus donate to charities that suppot terrorism
15% don't support terrorism, but would not help end terrorism by turning it known terrorists
I don't even have a problem with Muslims. I know plenty of cool Muslims, including a very nice Muslim girl who is the daughter of Iraqi immigrants, who threw a party upon the beginning of the invasion of Iraq. Not a big Saddam fan, needless to say.
Islam itself, though... yeah, problem there.
I may be racist, but I'm a wise racist.
"...and, invariably, the haters fantasizing about a merciless Crusade never bothered to serve in our military "
I'm with you, I'm offended. Just a device so the author can make those who are willing to stand up for themselves look like paper tigers.
4 years active USN, 3.5 of them at sea. I say, Bite me Ralph.
In what century will this reformation occur and what do we do about it while we're waiting?
Islam has not been hijacked by extremists. Islam is extreme.
Arabs are not a race. Tribal/ethnic, yes, but not a race. Arabs can come in any one of the three major races.
To hate all Arabs is racist.
To hate all Muslims is bigotry.
To hate Islam is wise.
The "good" muzzies protect the bad ones simply because they're all muzzies. Isn't that "racist" also? Sorry, but I'm not buying it. If they protect terrorists in their midst - and you can find them all together at your local mosque - I don't really care to try to separate them all individually. That's not my concern. My concern is to be and remain safe.
You're right in regard to Arabs, but the writer didn't mention Arabs. We must avoid equating Arab with Muslim, for a great many Muslims are not Arabian, and many Arabs are not Muslim. In fact, a not inconsiderable number of Arabs are Christians.
He may have confused Muslims who are waging jihad against us and those who are not. Those who are not are just waiting for the right moment to begin.
6 years active duty, 4 years reserve.
Islam is an evil cancer on the civilized world that shouldn't be left for our children to deal with.
Or he may have been the victim of a CAIR letter campaign.
Everyone with a brain already understands this perfectly obvious truth. It's a rather pointless way of trying to avoid a much-needed debate on what Islam is and what can be done to change it.
1.2 Billion Muslims minus 100Million active jihadists/CAIR spokespeople = 1.1 Billion silent partners
OK. Lets put the shoe on the other foot....Was it "racist" and "bigoted" to to hijack 4 planes and kill 3000 people in the name of Islam and Allah?
And facism is facism - even when disguised as a religion.
It's not a 'debate' that we non-Muslims can engage in. All we can do is confront them until they change. Islam needs a Reformation.
Genocide is genocide. Murder is murder.
I'm not one of the dark "Islam is irreformable" types the author decries, and I still hope we can get away without fighting the whole ummah, but I'm not hopeful--less so with al Sistani retiring from politics in Iraq.
Muslim = Time bomb... All it takes is for a "mullah" to light the fuse..
And just how many years are you sitting on in the Military. Pray tell, Ralph.
About f*cking time.
One side is Dhimmitude. The other is genocide. Both are the submission to evil. There is a middle ground, and that's how we will win.
To have an obsession with something called "RACISM!" is to blindly follow fashionable politically correct trends!
Really? How come they are almost completely silent, if they exist in such large numbers?
I'm a proud member of the RCAE,
Rotten Core of American Extremists
That still adds up to 100% evil.
Even if Ralph does not take seriously what the Koran says, many muslims do take it seriously. Those "moderates" are actually unfaithful to the teaching of their murderous scriptures. Even if only 10% of muslims are fantics, the consequences are too serious for me to ignore them.
When I see Islamic nations PROTECTING the rights of non-muslims to openly practice their faiths and for ex-muslims to not be in fear of death penalty or murder for converting away from the faith, I might see it as something more than either a death cult or a supremacist political ideology (masked by religious trappings aped from earlier religions).
Odd that he does not recognize or acknowledge the racism espoused by many followers of the religion of peace TM.
What of the tales of "subhuman offspring from pigs and monkeys"?
Should we have looked at the good things Nazism was doing for the German people? NO!
FOF - Fear of Fatwa.
Plus it is forbidden to be critical of the faiths of other muslims. Even those who hijack the religion and do things that are forbidden under Islam.
Even if only 10% globally is into physical holy war (and they can be found across cultural barriers and around the world), that is still 100million+ soldiers.