If she had only put on a burka in the first place...
Do you suppose Muslim woman are required to wear
burkas because so many of their men simply lack
self-control?
Posted on 09/07/2006 6:16:46 PM PDT by dennisw
An English teacher who converted to Islam when she joined a Muslim faith school was horrified when the owner asked questions about her virginity, a tribunal was told.
Monique Buckner, a 33-year-old South African said married father-of-five Hojjat Ramzy asked whether she was a virgin when the pair were alone in the school office.
The school boss also told her he would marry her if he was 20 years younger.
Ms Bucker told the tribunal: "In the office one day after school, Mr Ramzy told me that if he were younger, he would marry me.
"This disgusted me as I considered Mr Ramzy to be a pious Muslim whom I trusted and respected."
It followed failed attempts by 52-year-old Iranian-born Mr Ramzy to fix up an arranged marriage for Ms Buckner to a younger man.
The tribunal heard that the conversation took place while Ms Buckner was employed at IQRA, an Islamic Girls school in Oxford.
The teacher, a convert to Islam, is suing her former employers for racial discrimination.
She told the tribunal she had ignored Mr Ramzy after the "embarrassing" conversation about her virginity.
She said: "Mr Ramzy and I were not talking anymore because of the incident in the office. We did not see eye-to-eye on personal issues.
"He was interfering in my personal life."
Miss Buckner met Mr Ramzy in early 2005 at his Islamic information distribution stall in Cornmarket Street, Oxford.
After meeting him on numerous occasions she decided to follow his advice and convert to Islam.
She was given the Islamic name Hakima (meaning wisdom) and was wearing a Burka during the proceedings.
Ms Buckner, who was then teaching English at Bicester Community College, said she told Mr Ramzy she would have to return to her home country, South Africa, as her contract was due to end that summer and her work permit would expire.
But was delighted when Ramzy and his wife, Maryam Ramzy, head of administration at the school, offered her a job teaching English at IQRA School, starting in September.
Soon after she began working full-time, Ms Buckner said she was "horrified" to receive a pay slip showing she was to receive just £20 pounds payment per day.
She told the tribunal the other 10 teachers at the all-girls school were being paid at least £10 pounds per hour.
Arthur James, representing the school, said Ms Buckner, who had recognised English teaching qualifications, was only ever employed as a volunteer. However, Ms Buckner strongly denied the claim.
She said: "IQRA's school work permit application to the Home Office, which was completed by the headteacher and Mrs Ramzy and signed by Mr Ramzy, clearly states my full-time status,".
Ms Buckner complained verbally about her pay to Mr Ramzy who then gave her a £60 pounds a day wages rise.A week after the pay increase Mr Ramzy reduced her hours to just five a week.
Ms Buckner, is suing for racial discrimination and three breaches of the Employment Act - unpaid wages, holiday pay and notice pay.
The tribunal was adjourned until November.
Having second thoughts about anything, lady?
Welcome to TROP!/s
So, was she?
Employers of peace.
This has got to be a mistake. I think he said, if SHE was 20 years younger, ie 13.
LOL:)
Find another religion, Monique, this one sucks. And if Ahkmed wants to marry you and take you back to his home country, there's only one word of advice I can give you: RUN! Run silent, run deep, run like water through a tourist in Mexico.
"I made it through the wilderness...
You know I made it through-oooh-oooh"
"Why, Mr. Ramzy, I'll bet you say that to all the girls!"
Seems like a certifiable, genuine, for-real dirty old man to me.
Ms Bucker told the tribunal: "In the office one day after school, Mr Ramzy told me that if he were younger, he would marry me.
"This disgusted me as I considered Mr Ramzy to be a pious Muslim . . .
. . . and he was acting un-piously how?
This woman knew this was typical Moslem behavior. If it disgusts her she shouldn't go around those people.
I don't get it: this would seem to me be pretty typical of 'pious Muslims.'
The court should toss her case under the ancient legal doctrine of caveat emptor
This gal would be wise to drop her case and to publicly declare that she was wrong to bring it and that she asks "allah's" forgiveness.
What kind of woman converts to Islam and expects the men to respect her? Has she ever read a thing about Islam and women?
Perhaps it's just my opinion, but it seems to me you've got to have a lot of self-hate to become a Muslem, if you're a woman.
Ladies, Christians may not be perfect, but if I were you, I'd find myself a little Christian church and join other folks like yourself, and give the religion of mutilation, beatings, homicide bombings and other charming qualities a pass.
If she had said she was a virgin, they would have sent her to "Allah" immediately, since they're running low on virgins for martyrs lately. ;)
The Irony of it all, and on so many levels. William Shakespeare would of loved this.
I'm a guy but if I were Ms. Bucker I would have told Mr. Ramzy that I would rather kiss a pig on the lips.
"This disgusted me as I considered Mr Ramzy to be a pious Muslim whom I trusted and respected."
Perhaps an "Honor-Rape"?
That is a perfectly acceptable question for emplyment at an islamic school.
If you do not like the islamic religion - simple - do not join the islamic religion. If you still join, then you are no better than a kennedy/kerry 'catholic' democrat.
Converted but didn't know what "chattel" meant!
Izlam hasn't changed...What has changed is us...It's evident on the threads here at FR that we've learned a lot about Izlam since 9/11...And especially the last year or two...
There's nothing good about 9/11 but if there could be, it would be that these muzlims can no longer operate under the radar...
I have my eye on 'em...
Izlam hasn't changed...What has changed is us...It's evident on the threads here at FR that we've learned a lot about Izlam since 9/11...And especially the last year or two...
Some of the change is due to "Politically Incorrect Guide to Islam and the Crusades" by Robert(?) Spencer. Quite an
enlightening book. I recommend it most highly. It does an excellent job of exposing islam for what it is. After reading it one harbors no illusions about TROP.
I doubt she's having second thoughts. I've found a discussion board that she has been a member of. The woman is a total moonbat, as are all the posters there.
Completely vacuous, emotionally-driven posts with zero relation to logic or reality.
But she is against factory farming, Wal-Mart, and is interested in confronting right-wing talking points. lol.
"Give human rights to Arabs! Arabs are human beings too! Arab lives are equal to Israeli lives! The Israelis have no right to say that Lebanon and Syria are bringing it upon itselves. Israel has no right to commit war crimes in other countries and then play innocent. Israel has brought the desperate action of kidnapping against its military personnel upon itself for decades of racist and murderous policies towards the indigenous Arab population of Palestine. Enough of Israeli racism!"
Please.
If she had only put on a burka in the first place...
Do you suppose Muslim woman are required to wear
burkas because so many of their men simply lack
self-control?
I guess they'll never call him Abdul the Smooth, will they?
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