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Where Are The Secret Jails, The EU Demands
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 9-9-2006 | Alec Russell

Posted on 09/07/2006 7:05:15 PM PDT by blam

Where are secret jails, the EU demands

By Alec Russell in Washington

(Filed: 08/09/2006)

European politicians yesterday called on Washington to reveal the sites of the CIA's secret prisons after President George W Bush's admission that terrorist prisoners had been held in clandestine foreign jails.

As Mr Bush hit the road to sell Wednesday's revelation of the "black sites" to the American public as a victory for his anti-terrorist policies, European politicians stepped up the pressure for further details.

"The location of these prison camps must be made public," said Wolfgang Kreissl-Dörfler, a member of the European Parliament's committee investigating the CIA's alleged use of sites in Eastern Europe. "We need to know if there has been any complicity in illegal acts by governments of EU countries or of states seeking EU membership."

Allegations that the CIA held and tortured terrorist suspects in secret Eastern European prisons provoked fury in Europe last year and intensified already virulent anti-Americanism.

But in America the debate has been more muted and yesterday, far from being cowed or contrite as many European politicians expected, Mr Bush sought to capitalise on the impact of his statement.

In a speech in Atlanta, the latest in a series building up to Monday's anniversary of the 9/11 attacks, he argued that he had made America safer than it was five years ago. And in an address on Wednesday he said 14 top al-Qa'eda figures had been transferred from the secret prisons to Guantanamo Bay awaiting trial.

Mr Bush is hoping to secure the future of the Guantanamo Bay detention centre by getting Congress to approve a law authorising the tribunals.


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1 posted on 09/07/2006 7:05:17 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

It's none of their bleepin' business.


2 posted on 09/07/2006 7:06:22 PM PDT by madison10
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To: blam
Pluto the non-planet.
3 posted on 09/07/2006 7:07:05 PM PDT by msnimje (What part of-- "DEATH TO AMERICA" --do the Democrats not understand?)
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To: blam

WEll, duh. If we told them it wouldn't be a secret now would it?


4 posted on 09/07/2006 7:07:11 PM PDT by tioga
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To: blam

Look, if it's not in your country, what should it matter?


5 posted on 09/07/2006 7:07:17 PM PDT by ConservativeMind
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To: blam

Bite me, Wolfgang


6 posted on 09/07/2006 7:07:30 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone

The Germans have an abiding and deep interest in secret prison camps and the goings on that might take place there.


7 posted on 09/07/2006 7:08:46 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: blam

They're secret, silly.


8 posted on 09/07/2006 7:09:40 PM PDT by Tribune7
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To: blam

Drop dead Euro-clowns


9 posted on 09/07/2006 7:09:46 PM PDT by dennisw (Confucius say man who go through turnstile sideways going to Bangkok)
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To: blam

The NYT is getting right on this.


10 posted on 09/07/2006 7:09:48 PM PDT by Johnstone
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To: blam

In the words of "Number Six"; "That would be telling".


11 posted on 09/07/2006 7:09:55 PM PDT by n230099 ("If the creator had a purpose in equipping us with a neck, he surely meant us to stick it out.")
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To: blam

The "EU" didn't request this information. A few "EU politicians" asked for the information.

Do we even recognize the EU as a legitimate governing body? Are they even a legitimate governoring body given they can't get anybody to ratify their union?


12 posted on 09/07/2006 7:10:20 PM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: blam

Area 51


13 posted on 09/07/2006 7:10:35 PM PDT by texas_mrs
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To: blam
Hey, EU


14 posted on 09/07/2006 7:10:39 PM PDT by The Iceman Cometh (Just another evil conservative)
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To: blam
"The EU Demands"???
15 posted on 09/07/2006 7:11:00 PM PDT by fat city ("Journalists are sloppy, lazy and on expense account")
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To: blam

EU cant demand anything. What are they gonna do? Run to the UN? They need to STFU.


16 posted on 09/07/2006 7:11:30 PM PDT by ChicagoConservative27
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To: blam

...far from being cowed or contrite as many European politicians expected...

There seems to be a lot of things European politicians don't expect. Like religeously motivated murder and mayhem. They just gotta quit projecting their own weakness.


17 posted on 09/07/2006 7:11:53 PM PDT by farlander (Strategery - sure beats liberalism!)
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To: blam

These Euro-dhimmis are annoying same as ankle biting rat dogs


18 posted on 09/07/2006 7:11:59 PM PDT by dennisw (Confucius say man who goTHese through turnstile sideways going to Bangkok)
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To: blam
Brings to mind another reply made to the Germans once. - Nuts!

My reply is unprintable.

19 posted on 09/07/2006 7:12:07 PM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: fat city

They are in my back yard. Want to see some pics???


20 posted on 09/07/2006 7:12:09 PM PDT by lndrvr1972
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To: blam

They are in secure, undisclosed locations.


21 posted on 09/07/2006 7:13:13 PM PDT by GSlob
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To: blam

The Germans demanding information on secret prison camps...Ironic to say the least!


22 posted on 09/07/2006 7:13:22 PM PDT by ConservaTexan (February 6, 1911)
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To: n230099

23 posted on 09/07/2006 7:14:03 PM PDT by cripplecreek (If stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out?)
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To: blam

Don't these people know you can't even tell yourself secret info. Morons.


24 posted on 09/07/2006 7:14:24 PM PDT by JamminJAY (This space for rent)
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To: blam

25 posted on 09/07/2006 7:14:29 PM PDT by NCjim (The more I use Windows, the more I love UNIX)
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To: blam

"Yes, where are they? Oooh!"

26 posted on 09/07/2006 7:14:37 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (the war on poverty should include health club memberships for the morbidly poor)
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To: blam

You want to know the location of our secret jails? (banging on phone) Hello? Hello? Darn phone!


27 posted on 09/07/2006 7:14:50 PM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
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To: blam

I guarantee even the prisoners didn't know where they were at and I'll also bet that it wasn't in Europe but more likely a remote island .


28 posted on 09/07/2006 7:14:54 PM PDT by tobyhill (The War on Terrorism is not for the weak.)
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To: blam

"We know nothing!!!"


29 posted on 09/07/2006 7:15:42 PM PDT by 444Flyer (The Rules of Engagement: to Engage!)
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To: blam

Don't worry - the sugarglider's a fibber.

30 posted on 09/07/2006 7:15:51 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows ("I've never seen so many testicles in my life.")
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Where are secret jails, the EU demands

If we tell you, then we'll have to kill you.

31 posted on 09/07/2006 7:16:37 PM PDT by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 72-76)
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To: blam

"We know nothing!!!"


32 posted on 09/07/2006 7:16:50 PM PDT by 444Flyer (The Rules of Engagement: to Engage!)
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To: blam
The EU wants to get us ALL killed!
33 posted on 09/07/2006 7:17:23 PM PDT by divine_moment_of_facts (I went to bed on 9/10/01 a Democrat... I woke up on 9/11/01 a Republican.)
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To: blam
Shhhhh! It's a secret!!!
34 posted on 09/07/2006 7:17:24 PM PDT by airborne (Fecal matter is en route to fan! Contact is imminent!)
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To: blam

Who care what the EU wants to know about the "secret" prisons? They had a heck of a lot of them some 60 years ago, and thought it quite fine. To heck with them, they are nothing but a bunch of weak kneed yes people who will shortly be ruled by the mulsims (islam, turning their butts to the west) just like the knuckled under to Hitler. Ne knew the tenacity and weak backbone of Europeans. That's one of the reasons we were in Europe all those year ago, so save their sorry butts from communism, and the bolsheviks. These are my thoughts, and I lived there for a long time.


35 posted on 09/07/2006 7:17:35 PM PDT by tillacum (,)
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To: blam

EU Demands? LOLOLOL


36 posted on 09/07/2006 7:17:59 PM PDT by Gimme
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To: blam
"The location of these prison camps must be made public," said Wolfgang Kreissl-Dörfler, a member of the European Parliament's committee investigating the CIA's alleged use of sites in Eastern Europe. "We need to know if there has been any complicity in illegal acts by governments of EU countries or of states seeking EU membership."

OK I give up, I'll tell you, Just don't torture me Wolfgang, they are in Strasbourg and Brussels.

Just so everyone else knows but Wolfgang, Strasbourg and Brussels are the homes of the European Parliament!

37 posted on 09/07/2006 7:18:32 PM PDT by usmcobra (I sing Karaoke the way it was meant to be sung, drunk, badly and in Japanese, that why I don't sing.)
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To: blam
Uh, not in your country---maybe.
38 posted on 09/07/2006 7:18:35 PM PDT by FishFace222
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To: tobyhill

My bet is Poland, or some other Christian (former) east block country where they still remember the ole' Commie methods but have seen the bigger picture.


39 posted on 09/07/2006 7:18:44 PM PDT by farlander (Strategery - sure beats liberalism!)
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To: blam

Near Cheney's secret bunker.


40 posted on 09/07/2006 7:18:49 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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"The location of these prison camps must be made public"

No, you first. Where's your burka and where's Binny?

41 posted on 09/07/2006 7:19:22 PM PDT by Paladin2 (If the political indictment's from Fitz, the jury always acquits.)
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To: msnimje

The prisons are in Shangrala.


42 posted on 09/07/2006 7:20:36 PM PDT by SC Swamp Fox (Join our Folding@Home team (Team# 36120) keyword: folding)
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To: The Iceman Cometh
This is for you, EU!

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43 posted on 09/07/2006 7:20:43 PM PDT by divine_moment_of_facts (I went to bed on 9/10/01 a Democrat... I woke up on 9/11/01 a Republican.)
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To: blam
I have to say that if they were in European countries (or any other country for that matter) and the governments of said countries were not aware of them, then they do have the right to be upset. If, however, say an intelligence agency of said country knew but the PM, president, whatever, didn't, too bad...plausible deniability and all that is good, sometimes.

My guess is that wherever they were, the governments knew all about them...though frankly I probably think that they were either on ships (which is where I would've put them...international waters, none of this nonsense to deal with) or some small island, as someone else suggested.

44 posted on 09/07/2006 7:20:50 PM PDT by anthropos
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To: Mr. Mojo

... where they have them run on hamster wheels powering the Rove Hurricane Machine.


45 posted on 09/07/2006 7:21:04 PM PDT by farlander (Strategery - sure beats liberalism!)
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To: blam

Why didnt we just drown the whole bunch and claim they were on Wake island when the storm struck.


46 posted on 09/07/2006 7:21:09 PM PDT by sgtbono2002 (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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To: Alouette

"If we tell you, then we'll have to kill you." No, dearie, not KILL, "If we tell you, we'll have to make you disapear.". I just sounds nicer and more European. They have all the manners, you know, we're just Americans. new arrivals.


47 posted on 09/07/2006 7:21:46 PM PDT by tillacum (,)
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To: SC Swamp Fox
They are not prisons (and with the quantity of holdees, certainly not camps). They're spas and salons.

If you want to know where the spas are, you have to ask nice.

48 posted on 09/07/2006 7:23:43 PM PDT by Paladin2 (If the political indictment's from Fitz, the jury always acquits.)
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To: madison10
the sooner they recognize that this war is their business.... and future too, the sooner we will be on the path to success.

this war is targeting members of the G8: those who have generated demonstrated economic and political progress. there is jealousy, envy, failure and frustration at play as the islamic way has not been able to generate nor deliver progress.

sure the EU can lay down to the demands generated by the islamic nation but if they continue schmoozed to sleep, the last few awake will have their throats cut.

its high time they recognize that its their war too
49 posted on 09/07/2006 7:24:50 PM PDT by himno hero
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"The location of these prison camps must be made public," said Wolfgang Kreissl-Dörfler...

They're in Dachau, you crazy kraut.

50 posted on 09/07/2006 7:25:43 PM PDT by GOP_Party_Animal
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