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SILI-CON VALLEY: H-P PROBED FOR SPYING ON REPORTERS (exec spied on journos, company directors)
NY POST ^ | September 8, 2006 | PAUL THARP

Posted on 09/08/2006 8:00:10 AM PDT by Liz

In an secret attack on reporters in an attempt to find their sources, Hewlett-Packard's private eyes tapped into personal telephone records of journalists who had exposed the company's boardroom bickering and business weak spots..... the Hewlett-Packard officer who hired the private eyes - Chairwoman Patricia Dunn - was herself a former journalist whose rising paranoia over leaks to the media about her company's woes became an obsession that has dragged H-P into a far-reaching criminal probe.

California Attorney General Bill Lockyer yesterday said laws were broken in the spying scandal and that charges are likely to be bought.......main target of H-P's snooping on reporters was Dawn Kawamoto, a business reporter for CNET News.com. She originally broke a story nine months ago about a secret board meeting at a posh spa..........Dunn, who felt she was betrayed by the meeting, ordered a probe of the leaks several months ago, involving hackers who pried into personal phone records of company directors. Lockyer's office said phone records of an undetermined number of other journalists also had been hacked.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Extended News; Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: corporateidiots; dunn; hewlettpackard; hp; investigators; marks; nyt; patriciadunn; pi; pretexting; puiwingtam; wsj

1 posted on 09/08/2006 8:00:12 AM PDT by Liz
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To: Grampa Dave; martin_fierro; abb

ping


2 posted on 09/08/2006 8:02:00 AM PDT by Liz (The US Constitution is intended to protect the people from the government.)
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To: Liz

Procter & Gamble did this back in the 80's with a WSJ reporter. (Read all about such tactics in "Soap Opera"). The difference between that incident and this is that P&G used the city police to do their investigation for them.

HP will regret it. I mean for real. Not just the PR reply.


3 posted on 09/08/2006 8:04:07 AM PDT by Glenn (Annoy a BushBot...Think for yourself.)
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To: Liz

It certainly sounds like the corporate culture did not improve after Carly Fiorina was ousted back in '05.


4 posted on 09/08/2006 8:06:06 AM PDT by MplsSteve
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To: Glenn

They should have stuck to making test equipment, They were a leader in that market, Now.....


5 posted on 09/08/2006 8:07:03 AM PDT by Not now, Not ever! (The devil made me do it!,......................................................( well, not really.))
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To: Glenn

I cannot imagine how anyone involved in this could have thought it was legal. Also can't imagine how anyone could have thought this spying was going to stay secret. You mix hubris and stupidity and it usually results in a ticket to the big house.


6 posted on 09/08/2006 8:11:58 AM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: Liz
The article says that the "personal" phone records of HP directors were examined for calls to the reporter. I'd bet a fair amount that these were phones that belonged to and were paid for by the company and as such, were company assets. If so, they are subject to any scrutiny that the boss determines is necessary. The same goes for email.

Under existing US law, employees have very little right to privacy when using company property. The same does not hold true in the EU, where employees' correspondence cannot be examined casually.

7 posted on 09/08/2006 8:36:57 AM PDT by Ol' Sox
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To: Ol' Sox

Even so---if they were company-paid, the PR fallout of corporate spying is horrendous---heads will roll.


8 posted on 09/08/2006 8:40:54 AM PDT by Liz (The US Constitution is intended to protect the people from the government.)
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To: Liz
I guess that would depend on whether it was completely internal. If it is, all the prosecutor's blather about criminality is moot. "Spying" on employee communications, especially where corporate security is in question, is very common. The company is liable for their employees' conduct, after all, and the company owns the equipment.

I would be curious to know more about the details of the phone records examined. A phone call is a two-way communication. A reporter could claim he/she is being spied on if they were a party to a communication with an HP employee who's phone records were being examined.

9 posted on 09/08/2006 8:54:21 AM PDT by Ol' Sox
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To: Liz
*shrug*

HP's printers spy on their users all the time- Why shouldn't they do it at home,among themselves, too?

From a PC World Story:

Updates From HP takes this to new lows.

Its FAQ notes that security programs may try to block it, since it "phones home" for info.

The privacy policy says the program sends a bit of nonpersonal data (which isn't shared with third parties) back to HP.

On the PC I tried, it followed the ad with a pop-up noting "Important information about upgrading to SP2."

The pop-up links to a Web page that explains how to keep Updates From HP running when Windows XP Service Pack 2's firewall tries to whack the program's Internet access.

Then the page attempts to sell you broadband, two Symantec products, and memory that it vaguely insinuates SP2 might need.

10 posted on 09/08/2006 8:59:21 AM PDT by Gorzaloon
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To: Liz

Typical of a left wing controlled organization.

They love bad news and fabricated news about the rest of us.

Then when someone reports their reality, they turn neo fascist. This is very similiar to the Clintoons and the Rats in Congress trying to force ABC to change or cancel its upcoming 911 movie.


11 posted on 09/08/2006 9:00:36 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (There's a dwindling market for Marxist Homosexual Lunatic lies/wet dreams posing as news.)
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To: Grampa Dave

Nice, very nice, take.

Course, they don't "think" of themselves as neo-fascists---and I use the term "think" loosely when referencing liberals.

In the last analysis, this was about Dunn and her survival. The old Me-Myself-and-I gambit.


12 posted on 09/08/2006 9:11:59 AM PDT by Liz (The US Constitution is intended to protect the people from the government.)
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To: Ol' Sox

Mmmmmmm....right. Two-way. Who was being spied on?


13 posted on 09/08/2006 9:14:29 AM PDT by Liz (The US Constitution is intended to protect the people from the government.)
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To: MplsSteve

The HP Way left with Test & Measurement.


14 posted on 09/08/2006 12:23:36 PM PDT by printhead
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To: Ol' Sox
From another report and press release on this same issue, the pretexting was done on the BOD member's private phones (all of them).

As such, most BOD's are not employees of the companies boards that they serve on; they are brought in from outside agencies, etc to give oversight and direction.

This is a big deal.

15 posted on 09/08/2006 12:31:27 PM PDT by Sam's Army (Imagine a world without car commercials.)
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To: MplsSteve
It certainly sounds like the corporate culture did not improve after Carly Fiorina was ousted back in '05.

One of Fiorina's boardroom buds.

H-P says Dunn will resign if asked by board

16 posted on 09/08/2006 1:05:41 PM PDT by Milhous (Twixt truth and madness lies but a sliver of a stream.)
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To: All
A fairly funny HPQ parody site.


17 posted on 09/08/2006 1:11:28 PM PDT by Milhous (Twixt truth and madness lies but a sliver of a stream.)
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To: Liz

Surely there will be heavy protest from the Left who are defending journalists and other Americans who communicate directly with Al Qaeda.


18 posted on 09/08/2006 1:23:04 PM PDT by weegee (Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
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To: weegee

Of course.......LOL.


19 posted on 09/08/2006 2:35:08 PM PDT by Liz (The US Constitution is intended to protect the people from the government.)
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To: Milhous

H-P was once great. The pain of its fall gets greater and greater.


20 posted on 09/08/2006 5:50:07 PM PDT by Gondring (If "Conservatives" now want to "conserve" our Constitution away, then I must be a Preservative!)
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To: Milhous

The kumquat site is hilarious!


21 posted on 09/09/2006 5:39:21 AM PDT by SnarlinCubBear (Save the Earth - it's the only planet with chocolate)
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To: Liz
Dunn, who felt she was betrayed by the meeting, ordered a probe of the leaks several months ago, involving hackers who pried into personal phone records of company directors. Lockyer's office said phone records of an undetermined number of other journalists also had been hacked.

Diversity goals slithered into HP in the late 1980s. By the time Carly arrived (promotion from without, regardless of the spirit of the HP Way), the rot had fully permeated the top, and became apparent to the outside world. This is the tip of a much bigger iceberg that goes way beyond emotions in the boardroom. Poor Bill and Dave are probably spinning at redline RPM by now. The problem is not Dunn and it is not Fiorina-- it is the mindset that approved giving them and others like them any power at all at HP. If the problem is so bad that the leadership spends their leadership capital burning up with feelings of superiority, resentment and jealosy towards each other and outsiders, there is no leadership left, only an echo of greatness that came before but which has since departed.

22 posted on 09/09/2006 1:39:32 PM PDT by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: Liz

I'll recommend CNBC's "On The Money" for the juiciest reports on this
"situation".

It's especially good because the main anchor for the show (Dylan Ratigan, sp?)
had a good expose of the use of "pretexting" (lying) to get personal records
earlier in the year.

Also, the story of the skunk lurking around CNBC's office complex is pretty amusing.
Including their mock threat to drop the skunk off at FOX or CNN after
they capture it.


23 posted on 09/09/2006 1:45:52 PM PDT by VOA
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To: Ol' Sox
I'd bet a fair amount that these were phones that belonged to and were paid for by the company and as such, were company assets

I'll take you up on that bet because AT&T has already confirmed that Tom Perkins' personal telephone account records were pretexted. So how much do you want to bet?

24 posted on 09/10/2006 5:01:03 PM PDT by HAL9000 (Happy 10th Anniversary FreeRepublic.com - Est. Sept. 23, 1996 - Thanks Jim!)
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