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Posted on 09/08/2006 1:29:07 PM PDT by HAL9000
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Newsweek is reporting that HP has called an emergency board meeting. [Link]Read the reports on this fiasco whereby Chairwoman Patricia “Patty” Dunn is at the center of a spy case whereby reporters phone records were illegally obtained resulting in all sorts of legal and SEC violations and the sudden resignation of Tom Perkins as well as other issues. There is no way — after a corporate witch hunt that results in spying that targets a New York Times reporter, Fortune Magazine reporter, CNET reporters and others — that this woman stays in office.
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So should I dump my 26 shares?
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Too late. Buy on the rumor, sell on the news.
If you have something better in mind and the commissions aren't bad, I'd say Yeah, dump 'em.
If not, keep holding 'em.
A 'Dunn' deal?
No KIDDING!!
Patty Dunn already knew this.
There is an old saying about fighting newspapers, "Becareful on picking fights with someone who buys their ink by the barrel."
Georgette Gekko needs Federal prosection. Make an example of her.
Why not make an example of the board member that leaked the information?
This is silly - she played hard ball - and the culprit was found out. Big deal
Ha ha!
Not all at once, please!
MICHAEL LIEDTKE, AP
SAN FRANCISCO - Hewlett-Packard Co. Chairwoman Patricia Dunn said Friday that several of her fellow board members want her to remain on the job despite a criminal investigation into her efforts to plug a media leak.
Dunn's crusade spawned a ruse to obtain the personal phone records of company directors and at least nine reporters. It put HP's board at the center of an imbroglio that threatens to distract the Palo Alto-based company as it tries to build on a recent run of success in the personal computer and other high-tech markets.
"I serve at the pleasure of the board," Dunn told The Associated Press in an interview. "I totally trust their judgment. If they think it would be better for me to step aside, I would do that. But a number of directors have urged me to hang in there."
Incensed by several media stories that quoted unnamed people about information shared during HP board meetings, Dunn authorized an investigation earlier this year to determine if any of the company's directors were talking out of turn.
The inquiry convinced HP that George Keyworth II had been providing reporters with confidential company information. The company is punishing him by preventing him from running for re-election to the board.
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Unfortunately, she played felony hard ball.
Ah, the Chair of Hewlett-Patel is going down? And she is a friend of Carly Fiorina? Too juicy.
"hard ball"? Does criminally posing as "justche" in order to obtain your SSN#, your cell phone records, your home phone records, and then widely disseminating this illegally-obtained information equal "hard ball"? So outright identity theft is merely "hard ball"?
She just needs to find the right job- like chairman of the CIA or NSA.
It's about time that HP's board forgot this PC crap and got a competent MAN in that job.
To be franky, I think Dunn and Fiorina are part of the old boys (and now girls) nextwork, sending American jobs hand over fist to India; meanwhile driving their companies into the ground.
What's Dunn is done.
Or, "What Dunn's done means Dunn's done."
a Private Investigator who more than likely did not tell her HOW s/he was going to get the records. (I know first hand how easy it is to have a PI tell you "oh sure no problem, I'll get it from the company directly" and not explain how they are getting the info - A PI got my former husband's for me, and I didn't give him a SS# I just paid the $300 bucks for it) .
My understanding is that the PI's got the last 4 digits of the numbers of the social - and more than likely those numbers were on avaiable documentation for being on the board. Widely disseminating? Don't see it.
They didn't listen to conversations, they didn't wiretap - they looked at print out information only - why shouldn't they be able to protect their company?
or Dunn is gonn.
H-P has the right to invesigate leaks - but they don't have the right to violate the law during their investigation. Their investigation was a bigger crime than the leaks.
One of the H-P board members is the President of Verizon, and he ought to know an obvious case of pretexting when he sees it - especially if Tom Perkins was able to recognize it. Some heads must roll on this board of directors.
Obtaining personal information under false pretenses. IOW, fraud.
Then the investigator should be the one investigated.
The investigators should be investigated, but that doesn't get H-P off the hook.
If Patty Dunn used the illegally-acquired calling records as the basis for her accusations against Keyworth, she should be prosecuted too. It's difficult to accept that she would believe that calling records are not confidential data. If she actually believed that, she is too stupid to be the chairwoman of the eleventh largest U.S. company.
I disagree - when you possibly have collusion among board members and winking about stabbing her in the back - I think she can use what methods she sees fit to figure it out.
I don't think relatively honest people necessarily know what investigators are up to when they get records, and usually people rise to the top in part because they are able to delegate effectively. She got some bad advice - I don't think she should be forcibly removed from her post for that.
It's funny to me that we aren't seeing the comparison between political leaders and company leaders.
If her methods are illegal, they're not fit to use. Why do you believe she is above the law?
It's funny to me that we aren't seeing the comparison between political leaders and company leaders.
If you're referring to NSA's lawful surveillance of overseas phone calls, there is a clear difference. They are trying to stop terrorism and save lives. Patty Dunn is merely trying to save her $300,000-a-year job.
Not just the phone taps - sometimes poor information, sometimes poor advising. I think your beef is more than this instance but not sure what it is. I don't think she's above the law - I think though that she relied on poor information and she shouldn't get chopped off at the knees for it.
She must go.
How interesting that now, both the female CEO and the female Board Chair of HP will have publicly fired. affirmative action can get you the job, but won't help you keep it.
H-P has a legacy as a great company, but people like Patty Dunn and Larry Sonsini are destroying its greatness.
If you suspect a Director is leaking confidential information, you have several options, none of which include pretexting home phone records, or hiring someone to pretext on your behalf.
At a minimum, you can ask the WC div. of the Fed. DA's office to explore fraud, conspiracy, ID theft, and Sarbanes-Oxley or other SEC violations; and/or sue news.com outright for disclosure and try to get the name through discovery.
She should be held to the same SOBC (standards of business conduct) that the rest of the company is held to. What's good for the goose...
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