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War protestors assemble outside the Municipal Auditorium(2 dozen)
San Antonio Express-News ^ | 09/09/2006 | Zeke MacCormack

Posted on 09/09/2006 12:32:33 PM PDT by mdittmar

Horn honks and catcalls were heard but, to their chagrin, war protestors assembled outside Municipal Auditorium Saturday generated limited public interest or participation.

“I don't know how we do it, but we need to get more people involved,” John Stanford, 81, told about two dozen fellow war opponents on hand.

The fiery WWII vet has attended weekly protests on Main Plaza since just after the 9/11 terrorist attacks.

Five years later, turnout has dwindled from dozens to just a few each Thursday at 4 p.m., but Stanford's anger over the war shows no sign of subsiding.

“All of us have a responsibility to speak out against the war crimes being committed in our name,” he said.

There were nods of agreement from his audience seated around the Vietnam War Memorial.

Frustration over perceived public apathy regarding U.S. policy in Iraq also was voiced by Tom Wetzler, of Vietnam Veterans Against the War.

Saying corporate greed is fueling the conflict, Wetzler, 55, asked, “How long do you think the war would last if American companies weren't making billions in Iraq?”

He pointed out that the U.S. combat death toll in Iraq is approaching the number of 9/11 casualties.

To move public participation in the war debate beyond merely posting magnetic yellow ribbons on vehicles, he told fellow protestors they can't just preach to the choir, but instead must actively network with other organizations.

Intermittent honks of support were heard from passing cars, but most pedestrians steered clear of the group waving signs demanding the war's end and the return home of U.S. troops.

“Traitors! Traitors!” shouted a man walking along East Martin Street, not pausing for a debate. “Impeach Bush!” responded Peter Maher, 56.

A veteran of the first Iraq war, Ret. Army Sgt. Robert Smith called the latest conflict there “a classic lose-lose situation.”

“We began losing the war the first day it started and we'll continue losing it long after it ends,” said Smith, 57, of Veterans for Peace.

“Winning is not a reason to stay because truly, no one wins a war,” he said.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: partyoftreason
Not going to well for the pro terrorist crowd.
1 posted on 09/09/2006 12:32:34 PM PDT by mdittmar
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To: mdittmar
“I don't know how we do it, but we need to get more people involved,”

They should try lying. It has always been their strongest tactic in the past.

2 posted on 09/09/2006 12:34:59 PM PDT by BenLurkin ("The entire remedy is with the people." - W. H. Harrison)
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To: mdittmar
“I don't know how we do it, but we need to get more people involved,” John Stanford, 81, told about two dozen fellow war opponents on hand. The fiery WWII vet..." He was born in 1927, he turned 18 in 1945. Veteran of WHAT? Basic training?
3 posted on 09/09/2006 12:35:37 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Say Leftists. How many Nazis did killing Nazis in WW2 create? Samurai? Fascists?)
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"He pointed out that the U.S. combat death toll in Iraq is approaching the number of 9/11 casualties."

And the point is....??

Apparently Main Plaza is now the home of the rant crowd. It used to be in front of the Alamo. I don't go down there often enough to keep track. Also, I'd have to take a shower afterword.


4 posted on 09/09/2006 12:37:41 PM PDT by Felis_irritable
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"The fiery WWII vet has attended weekly protests on Main Plaza since just after the 9/11 terrorist attacks."

Just what was this crazy old fart protesting then?
5 posted on 09/09/2006 12:37:44 PM PDT by Chi-townChief
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To: mdittmar

Municipal Auditorium was the place to be in the 1960s in San Antonio (I grew up in SA then). But that was then. It has long since been replaced and is hardly in the center of current downtown activities. Guess somebody forgot to tell the this 60s crowd that the city has moved on by a few decades and they are living in the past in more ways than one.


6 posted on 09/09/2006 12:39:10 PM PDT by rod1
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To: mdittmar
That is all they ever get 1 maybe 2 dozen and the press thinks they mean so much. i wonder how tired the press gets when they only poll the same protesters and ask the same people who hates Bush. Poll me please!
7 posted on 09/09/2006 12:39:30 PM PDT by betsyross1776
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If he's 81, he was born in 1925...he would have been 18 in 1943...


8 posted on 09/09/2006 12:40:30 PM PDT by JRios1968 (Tagline for rent...inquire within)
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To: mdittmar

"“Traitors! Traitors!” shouted a man walking along East Martin Street, not pausing for a debate."

I like this guy.


9 posted on 09/09/2006 12:41:12 PM PDT by No Blue States
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He was born in 1927, he turned 18 in 1945. Veteran of WHAT?
Basic training?

Sure looks that way. He couldn't possibly have been a veteran of much else. Not in 1945.

10 posted on 09/09/2006 12:45:19 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: mdittmar
Hey...want to boost your anti-war protestors? Schedule a guest appearance visit from your HERO.
11 posted on 09/09/2006 12:46:18 PM PDT by tflabo (Take authority that's ours)
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To: mdittmar

The moonbat flock is thinning. Hardly worth leaving the belfry anymore.


12 posted on 09/09/2006 12:46:57 PM PDT by IronJack (ALL)
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To: mdittmar

If there's more press than protesters, it's not a protest, it's a Press Conference.


13 posted on 09/09/2006 12:47:32 PM PDT by ChadGore (VISUALIZE 62,041,268 Bush fans. We Vote.)
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The fiery WWII vet...

He can't be too damn "fiery" if the old geezer has been out there since just after 09-11-01 supporting the terrorists who attacked his country. Sounds to me like the old geezer is either senile or his "vet" gig needs to be in quotes. Almost every DemocRAT war protestor I've ever seen is a "vet."

14 posted on 09/09/2006 12:49:04 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Socialism/Communism is not "progressive." It dates back to the Neanderthals.)
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To: MNJohnnie
That was going to be my question: So he served in WWII. I'm curious as to how he served.
15 posted on 09/09/2006 12:49:48 PM PDT by Clara Lou (Only a fool creates ill will unnecessarily.)
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To: mdittmar

San Antonio, Tx. is a far cry from San Francisco, Ca.
Time for you to move there pal for the successful career you crave.


16 posted on 09/09/2006 12:52:11 PM PDT by tflabo (Take authority that's ours)
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To: JRios1968; Fiddlstix; Clara Lou
If he's 81, he was born in 1925...he would have been 18 in 1943... My bad, my math was off. JR is right. Still would like to know what his Military service actually consisted off.
17 posted on 09/09/2006 12:54:47 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Say Leftists. How many Nazis did killing Nazis in WW2 create? Samurai? Fascists?)
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Here's the corrected version:

Anti-War Press Conference assembled outside the Municipal Auditorium

Web Posted: 09/09/2006 01:32 PM CDT

By Zeke MacCormack
Express-News Staff Writer

Horn honks and catcalls were heard but, to their chagrin, anti-war presenters at the press conference assembled outside Municipal Auditorium Saturday generated limited public interest or participation.

“I don't know how we do it, but we need to get more people involved,” John Stanford, 81, told about two dozen fellow war opponents on hand.

..snip ..

18 posted on 09/09/2006 12:54:59 PM PDT by ChadGore (VISUALIZE 62,041,268 Bush fans. We Vote.)
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To: MNJohnnie

"he would have been 18 in 1943"

And he could have joined at 17 in 1942 with parents' consent.

People do go bad, even vets. Look at John McCaine Mutiny, Murtha, and Kurt Vonnegut. Vets all, and all went to the dark side.


19 posted on 09/09/2006 1:00:22 PM PDT by dsc
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To: mdittmar
war protestors

These folks are against Jihad? Who knew?

20 posted on 09/09/2006 1:11:04 PM PDT by Paladin2 (If the political indictment's from Fitz, the jury always acquits.)
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To: MNJohnnie; All
Seems John Stanfords anti-American campaign may go back aways,if this is the same guy.

U.S. Supreme Court ". . . has good reason to believe and does believe that a certain place and premises in Bexar County, Texas, described as two white frame houses and one garage, located at the address of 1118 West Rosewood, in the City of San Antonio, Bexar County, Texas, and being the premises under the control and in charge of John William Stanford, Jr., is a place where books, records, pamphlets, cards, receipts, lists, memoranda, pictures, recordings and other written instruments [379 U.S. 476, 478] concerning the Communist Party of Texas, and the operations of the Communist Party in Texas are unlawfully possessed and used in violation of Articles 6889-3 1 and 6889-3A, Revised Civil Statutes of the State of Texas, and that such belief of this officer is founded upon the following information:

21 posted on 09/09/2006 1:28:01 PM PDT by mdittmar (May God watch over those who serve,and have served, to keep us free.)
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To: MNJohnnie

Wait, the "fiery WWII vet" has been protesting since the 9/11 attacks? Um, somebody needs to tell this drooling senile old man, that we weren't in Iraq in 2001. I'd LOVE to hear his "explanation" of why we were attacked.


22 posted on 09/09/2006 4:34:39 PM PDT by boop (Now Greg, you know I don't like that WORD!)
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