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To Hold Senate, G.O.P. Bolsters Its Most Liberal
NYTimes ^ | 9/10/2006 | Adam Nagourney

Posted on 09/09/2006 1:10:22 PM PDT by RustMartialis

To Hold Senate, G.O.P. Bolsters Its Most Liberal
By ADAM NAGOURNEY
Published: September 10, 2006

WARWICK, R.I., Sept. 9 -- With a barrage of television advertisements and the mobilization of its get-out-the-vote machine, the national Republican Party has lined up to beat back a conservative primary challenge to the most liberal Republican in the Senate, Lincoln Chafee of Rhode Island. The outcome on Tuesday could help determine whether Democrats have a shot at taking back the Senate.

In an extraordinary pre-emptive announcement, the National Republican Senatorial Committee has said it will concede Rhode Island to the Democrats should Stephen Laffey, the mayor of Cranston, defeat Mr. Chafee in the primary.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 109th; 2006; betrayal; congress; surrender
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Words fail me here, really, this is insane.
1 posted on 09/09/2006 1:10:23 PM PDT by RustMartialis
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To: RustMartialis

Some bodies in DC need to be fired. This is the stupidest move I can imagine.


2 posted on 09/09/2006 1:11:18 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Say Leftists. How many Nazis did killing Nazis in WW2 create? Samurai? Fascists?)
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To: RustMartialis
Why is it Laffey can't win? I know he has some pretty embarrassing remarks and a red hot temper in his background but is that it?
3 posted on 09/09/2006 1:13:36 PM PDT by msnimje (What part of-- "DEATH TO AMERICA" --do the Democrats not understand?)
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To: RustMartialis

I want to hear from Ken Mehlman!!! Laffey is a FABULOUS candidate!!! Chafe was AWFUL in the debates and Laffey was Great!! NO MONEY TO THE RNC!!


4 posted on 09/09/2006 1:14:12 PM PDT by Suzy Quzy ("When Cabals Go Kabooms"....upcoming book on Mary McCarthy's Coup-Plotters.)
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To: RustMartialis

And the GOP isn't just doing this in RI....


5 posted on 09/09/2006 1:14:22 PM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: MNJohnnie

WTF?? A few years ago, I would have said there will be a back rom deal with Chaffee to kee him in line. I know today this is not true. What the hell are they thinking?


6 posted on 09/09/2006 1:14:37 PM PDT by cardinal4 (America, despite the usual suspects, stands firmly with Israel..)
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To: RustMartialis

The problem is acute RINO-itis.


7 posted on 09/09/2006 1:14:57 PM PDT by GunsareOK
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To: RustMartialis
People need to stop contributing to the national Republican organizations and instead contribute directly to the candidates of their choice.

Then all of this foolishness would end.

Here's another example of this madness.

8 posted on 09/09/2006 1:16:33 PM PDT by upchuck (Q:Why does President Bush support amnesty for illegal aliens? A:Read this: http://tinyurl.com/nyvno)
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To: RustMartialis

Run Steve, Run!


9 posted on 09/09/2006 1:16:45 PM PDT by Paladin2 (If the political indictment's from Fitz, the jury always acquits.)
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To: RustMartialis

With the House and the Senate in play in this years election we need the RINOs.

Chaffee has his head up his ARSE, but we can't afford to lose his seat to the Demos.

RINO > MOONBAT


10 posted on 09/09/2006 1:17:19 PM PDT by JayHawk Phrenzie
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To: RustMartialis

The wussification of the GOP. SAD.


11 posted on 09/09/2006 1:17:50 PM PDT by Jackknife ( "It's not a real party 'til somebody breaks something.")
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To: msnimje
Why is it Laffey can't win?

Because RI is just about the bluest state in the country.It's *that* simple.

12 posted on 09/09/2006 1:17:52 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative ("An empty limousine pulled up and Hillary Clinton got out")
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To: RustMartialis

Not insane, they simply back the incumbant always....Not just some of the time.


13 posted on 09/09/2006 1:18:01 PM PDT by Cold Heat (I just analyze it, I did not create the mess...so go pound sand:-))
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To: RustMartialis

It gives us control of the Senate. That is all he is needed for. The dem does not even give us that. Calculus is that Laffey will not win.


14 posted on 09/09/2006 1:18:04 PM PDT by drc43 (Judges... Judges... get it done, then we can discuss priorities)
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To: RustMartialis
It is really quite simple. The GOP wants to hold a majority in the Senate. Laffey has no chance of being elected. The only stunning thing is that so many on this board would rather see the Democats in control than the Republicans.
15 posted on 09/09/2006 1:18:42 PM PDT by goldfinch
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To: msnimje

If the people pick the guy, even if he's unelectable or not (no idea, not from RI)... where do the (censored) RNC people sitting in DC get the *balls* to stick up a middle finger to every GOP voter in RI and say 'stick it'?????

I could see the RNSC telling him he wasn't getting any cash, but to CONCEDE a *Senate* seat?

I can't find any confirmation of this yet, but I can't imagine it's a false story.

--R.


16 posted on 09/09/2006 1:18:48 PM PDT by RustMartialis
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To: MNJohnnie


Sausage.


17 posted on 09/09/2006 1:18:50 PM PDT by onyx (1 Billion Muslims -- "if" 10% are fundamentalists, that's still 100 Million who want to kill us.)
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To: upchuck

That'sa what I'm doing. I stopped giving $1,000 to the RNC, and am now giving it to several candidates. Screw RNC!


18 posted on 09/09/2006 1:18:58 PM PDT by butternut_squash_bisque (The recipe's at my FR HomePage. Try it!)
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To: RustMartialis

I'm ok with them conceding Rhode Island if it means getting rid of Chafee. Let Laffey have the nomination then see what he can do. Chafee doesn't deserve a dime of RNC money. The only good thing he does is he doesn't engage in Democratic filibusters.


19 posted on 09/09/2006 1:19:10 PM PDT by DuxFan4ever (The next rational liberal I meet will be the first.)
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To: RustMartialis
The price is the "Bolton Nomination". RNC supports Chaffee and he in turn drops his opposition to Bolton as UN ambassador.
20 posted on 09/09/2006 1:19:15 PM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Sorry, but Laffey CAN'T win if Chaffee wins the primary! Once Laffey wins the primary he has a great chance to win!!


21 posted on 09/09/2006 1:19:28 PM PDT by Suzy Quzy ("When Cabals Go Kabooms"....upcoming book on Mary McCarthy's Coup-Plotters.)
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To: RustMartialis

Chaffee is not a RINO! He is an IDIOT!


22 posted on 09/09/2006 1:20:55 PM PDT by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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To: JayHawk Phrenzie


Chaffe is truly a "Republican In Name ONLY."

They're counting on him to hold his "R" senate seat.


23 posted on 09/09/2006 1:21:20 PM PDT by onyx (1 Billion Muslims -- "if" 10% are fundamentalists, that's still 100 Million who want to kill us.)
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To: RustMartialis

I changed your headline back to the correct one. Do not substitute your own, ever.


24 posted on 09/09/2006 1:21:39 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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To: drc43
Calculus is that Laffey will not win.

That is the sort of thinking that gives I expect from Surrender Now Democrats, not Republicans. The Party has NO business being involved in a primary fight.

25 posted on 09/09/2006 1:22:17 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Say Leftists. How many Nazis did killing Nazis in WW2 create? Samurai? Fascists?)
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To: RustMartialis

no, it is not insane. control of the senate may come down to the RI seat, and a pickup of a seat in NJ with Kean.

would you rather control the senate with these two members, or let the Dems have it?


26 posted on 09/09/2006 1:22:29 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: jveritas

Yes, the timing is interesting on this.


27 posted on 09/09/2006 1:23:28 PM PDT by headstamp (Nothing lasts forever, Unless it does.)
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To: Gay State Conservative
Because RI is just about the bluest state in the country.It's *that* simple.

That is what I thought. If I were the head of the RNC I would be more embarrassed backing Chaffey as a winner than Laffey as loser.

Chaffey disgusts me.
28 posted on 09/09/2006 1:23:39 PM PDT by msnimje (What part of-- "DEATH TO AMERICA" --do the Democrats not understand?)
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To: RustMartialis
If the RNC is so concerned with keeping control of the senate that it's willing to sink big money into the Chaffee campaign then why is the president talking up the Democrat in neighboring Connecticut? And let's drop the nonsense about Lieberman being an independent. He's a Democrat, he'll caucus with the Democrats, and if he wins he'll be back in the DNC fold in a matter of months. Yet the President refuses to endorse the Republican candidate or campaign for him or offer any support. Sheer lunacy.
29 posted on 09/09/2006 1:24:41 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: RustMartialis
STOP DONATING TO THE NRSC & NRCC! DONATE DIRECTLY TO THE CANDIDATES!
30 posted on 09/09/2006 1:24:57 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: goldfinch
Laffey has no chance of being elected

An assumption completely unproveable by any available data. The Party has no business being involved in a primary fight. Especially to save a seat that votes with the Democrats on everything BUT who controls the chamber. We can lose Caffee seat and hold the Senate. It is stupid for the RNC to waste time and money on a primary. They continually make these idiot Rockefeller Republican moves. IF we lose a chamber it will be because of the arrogant stupidity of the Republican Establishement who wants to be Democrat Party Lite. If it is a choice between a Democrat and a Democrat wanna bee, the Democrat will win.

31 posted on 09/09/2006 1:25:37 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Say Leftists. How many Nazis did killing Nazis in WW2 create? Samurai? Fascists?)
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To: onyx
They're counting on him to hold his "R" senate seat.

If the Senate is 52R - 48D, then you don't need Chaffee.

If the Senate is 51R - 49D or 50R - 50D, then I wouldn't count on Chaffee to stay in the R column.

32 posted on 09/09/2006 1:25:47 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Dems - Your conduct is an invitation to the enemy, yet few of you have heart enough to join them.)
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To: JayHawk Phrenzie
With the House and the Senate in play in this years election we need the RINOs. Chaffee has his head up his ARSE, but we can't afford to lose his seat to the Demos.

Very true.A practical example of what you're saying is contained in some stats put out by some leftist,atheist organization that rates Senators on issues that matter to them...stuff like the Boy Scouts and other issues that "unconstitutionally forces religion on citizens" (my words).

Here's a ratings list by that atheist organization of the Senate.Note that Reed (RI's democRAT Senator) gets a 100% (a perfect score) from the atheists and Chaffee gets only 40%.If a real democRAT is elected in RI,the state will have two Senators who rate 100%.

http://www.secular.org/scorecard/2006/senate.html

33 posted on 09/09/2006 1:26:35 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative ("An empty limousine pulled up and Hillary Clinton got out")
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To: butternut_squash_bisque
Screw RNC!

Good for you. We need more!!

34 posted on 09/09/2006 1:26:38 PM PDT by upchuck (Q:Why does President Bush support amnesty for illegal aliens? A:Read this: http://tinyurl.com/nyvno)
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To: Non-Sequitur

the republican in CT is unelectable.

what the CT race can do for the republicans, with a Lieberman win, is to marginalize the part of their base that tossed him out of their party in the primary. that's the best we can accomplish in the CT race, so we might as well take what we can get.


35 posted on 09/09/2006 1:27:14 PM PDT by oceanview
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To: Admin Moderator
I changed your headline back to the correct one. Do not substitute your own, ever.

Ah, so "To Hold Senate, G.O.P. Bolsters Its Most Liberal (RNSC Picks RINO over Conservative)" would be okay, right?

Or perhaps "To Hold Senate, G.O.P. Bolsters Its Most Liberal (RNSC prepared to concede RI unless RINO wins)"?

--R.

36 posted on 09/09/2006 1:27:26 PM PDT by RustMartialis
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To: GunsareOK
The problem is acute RINO-itis.

The problem on this board is more one of acute LOSER-itis. Some people here would rather be ideologically pure and out of power then to make the compromises needed to retain a majority and exercise power. They are infected with acute LOSER-itis. Hopefully, it is not contagious.
37 posted on 09/09/2006 1:28:03 PM PDT by goldfinch
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To: RustMartialis
In an extraordinary pre-emptive announcement, the National Republican Senatorial Committee has said it will concede Rhode Island to the Democrats should Stephen Laffey, the mayor of Cranston, defeat Mr. Chafee in the primary.

Sadly enough, it could be an improvement to the conservative cause if it was conceded.

38 posted on 09/09/2006 1:29:06 PM PDT by EGPWS
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To: oceanview
no, it is not insane. control of the senate may come down to the RI seat, and a pickup of a seat in NJ with Kean.

Normally, I would agree with the pragmatic approach. But I ask you: Who would you rather the RNC and RSCC save -- Chafee or, say, Santorum?

If the majority is under seige, why don't we try to save those who are worth saving -- even if it means throwing the likes of Chaffee overboard?

39 posted on 09/09/2006 1:29:18 PM PDT by okie01 (The Mainstream Media: IGNORANCE ON PARADE)
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To: oceanview
no, it is not insane. control of the senate may come down to the RI seat, and a pickup of a seat in NJ with Kean

Only if you take all your data from Democrat Talking Points. The fact of the matter is the Democrats have almost NO chance of taking back the Seate. They have to hit 100% and the Republicans ZERO for that to happen. This is more "We cannot win the Party at the Conventions so we will control who the canidates are" Rockefeller Republican Establishment thinking. If they lose a chamber, it will be because of this "Me Too Democrat Lite" posuturing by the RINOS. Rove showed you how to win. YOU do NOT try to suck up to the Left. They hate you and will never vote for you. You win by firing up YOUR base to show up. This "play it safe" dogma in the Beltway is a losing strategy.

40 posted on 09/09/2006 1:29:22 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Say Leftists. How many Nazis did killing Nazis in WW2 create? Samurai? Fascists?)
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To: KarlInOhio

For backing Chafffe, he's likely had to promise to keep the "R" behind his name.


41 posted on 09/09/2006 1:30:09 PM PDT by onyx (1 Billion Muslims -- "if" 10% are fundamentalists, that's still 100 Million who want to kill us.)
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To: Suzy Quzy
NO MONEY TO THE RNC!!

Best to send the $$$ directly to the candidate of choice. The RNC is not much better than the DNC. BTW, do you know, in brief, or tell me where to look, to find the four hotly contested Senate seats...I need to make a few donations. Thanks.

42 posted on 09/09/2006 1:30:42 PM PDT by madison10
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To: JayHawk Phrenzie

Actually, I see both sides to this argument.

IMO the GOP incumbent should be given every benefit of the doubt. But not total. A tough call.


43 posted on 09/09/2006 1:30:45 PM PDT by ProudCopperhead
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To: oceanview
the republican in CT is unelectable.

So is the conservative candidate in Rhode Island. So is Kathleen Harris in Florida. Shall we sell them down the river as well?

44 posted on 09/09/2006 1:30:54 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: RustMartialis

I like many others,I imagine, consider myself a lover of USA and Conservatism,and will do whatever Ican to advance the agenda of these core beliefs.Yet after campaigning and talking others to vote our way, we find ourselves with all aspects of Govt. Branches full of people we should expect to also advance this agenda,yet we`re asked to vote for people like this traitor;and we remain unfulfilled in what we beleive should be being done about these certain things(Build fence on borders Immediately and deport as many as possible),and what Should be done to FINISH this War ASAP,is it time for apathy?


45 posted on 09/09/2006 1:30:58 PM PDT by chrismich2610 (murha to run with hugo chavez)
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To: MNJohnnie
Rove showed you how to win. YOU do NOT try to suck up to the Left. They hate you and will never vote for you. You win by firing up YOUR base to show up. This "play it safe" dogma in the Beltway is a losing strategy.

Well, as it happens, I have a vote in this thing, and I'm plenty fired up for Tuesday.

But go ahead, vote-the-RINO-or-die people -- keep calling me names and pissing me off.

46 posted on 09/09/2006 1:31:21 PM PDT by prion (Yes, as a matter of fact, I AM the spelling police)
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To: onyx
Sausage.

Ah good point. Plus Reagan's 11th Commandment.

47 posted on 09/09/2006 1:31:27 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Say Leftists. How many Nazis did killing Nazis in WW2 create? Samurai? Fascists?)
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To: goldfinch
Exactly. To hell with priniciples. Party uberalles! The sooner all the principled folks around here get it the better the more the same as the Democrats we will be and we can finally be rid of this two party system. One party with an "R" behind each name will be pure perfection.

Party uberalles!

48 posted on 09/09/2006 1:31:58 PM PDT by ImpBill ("America ... Where are you now?")
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To: goldfinch
Laffey has no chance of being elected

Neither does Chafee.

And even if he wins, there's no guarantees he'll vote with the GOP on key issues.

Tell your party hack GOP bosses to stay out of the primaries. This is what primaries are for - cleansing and getting rid of liberal Republicans. If Chafee wins the primary, then yes, hold the nose. Until then, the national GOP has no business interfering in primary elections.

49 posted on 09/09/2006 1:32:45 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: MNJohnnie

Demos do have a chance, and a good one, of taking the Senate. EACH contest could be the critical one. That's what makes this a tough call.


50 posted on 09/09/2006 1:33:21 PM PDT by ProudCopperhead
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