Skip to comments.ACLU Loses In Latest Boy Scout Attack
Posted on 09/09/2006 6:54:19 PM PDT by Jay777
An atheist mother represented by the ACLU complained that allowing Boy Scouts to recruit in public schools on the same basis as other groups discriminated against her atheist son who attends Portland public schools. In today's decision reversing a lower court decision, the Oregon Supreme Court emphatically concluded that "nothing that occurred in any public school program, service, or activity was discriminatory at all."
"Giving Boy Scouts equal access is not discrimination," said Scouting spokesperson Robert H. Bork, Jr. "It is the law."
"The First Amendment and two federal statues require that Boy Scouts be given the same access to school facilities as other youth or community organizations," said Boy Scouts' attorney George A. Davidson. If the lower court's decision had been upheld, "every school district in Oregon would have been in jeopardy of losing federal funding."
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This is a ridiculous lawsuit in the first place. I feel bad for the judges that had to listen to the arguments in this one. It seems to me that it was a "no duh" equal access case, and the Oregon Supreme Court came to the same conclusion. Thank goodness this case was dealt with using common sense.
Listen to the ridiculous response from the executive director of the Oregon ACLU.
David Fidanque, executive director of the Oregon ACLU, said the ruling turned on a technical definition of what constitutes discrimination in the schools.
In theory, he argued, a hate group such as the Ku Klux Klan could make a presentation in an Oregon school about joining, and it would not be discrimination as long as it didn't mention it restricts membership to white people.
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I got in last year at 43.
They needed a experienced leader to take a group to Minnesota's Boundary Waters. Was an interesting interview...
The Boy Scouts teach that self-reliance is dependent upon acknowledgment of human imperfection, and a reverent acceptance of a Higher Power (doesn't matter to us which one you choose) as an example of perfection to emulate.
We call this concept, in a word, humility.
The Scout Oath includes the words "On my honor, I will do my best, to do my duty, to G-d and my country." Taking that oath is part of being a Boy Scout. It doesn't specifically say "what G-d," which is why Boy Scouts were found in nearly every country of the world, generally with the exception of many communist countries.
If you don't want to take that oath, to profess a belief in G-d, you don't have to. In fact, I think that you should form your own "Athiest Scouts," where you don't have to take that oath. In fact you could set up an oath disavowing any belief in G-d for your members.
Nothing, but pitching a tent is a very tiny part of what Boy Scouts teach.
Is the BSA teaching self-reliance or religion?
Yes to both, they teach self reliance and Christian mores.
My thoughts precisely (I think the stark irony of your post was lost on most here.)
When is the ACLU going to be barred from receiving tax--payer funds for financing lawsuits against the Boy Scouts and Christians??
I haven't heard any ACLU condemnation of the DNC tactics regarding The Path to 9/11. Have you?
We won't hear any complaints from the ACLU about the Left trying to stifle any revelation of their ineptitude at confronting evil.
"Suppose they decided being a black kid was a basis for not being a scout, either. Would they still be allowed to recruit at schools? what does believing in a Sky God have to do with learning to pitch a tent? Is the BSA teaching self-reliance or religion?"
A poor attempt to distract from the point at hand.
"When is the ACLU going to stop molesting the Boy Scouts?"
They never will, since the ACLU has already proven their loyalty to NAMBLA.
"Ahem, ACLU drove me to be a monthly contributor to Boy Scout of America...Hehehe."
Same here. Since the Boy Scouts have come under attack, we support them every chance we can.
aclu=atheist communist libertine union
"Suppose they decided being a black kid was a basis for not being a scout, either"
What? The BSA does not discriminate against anyone. Yiu aren't making sense with your argument
Actually, it's a win for liberty and justice.
The f-ing lawyer puts the KKK and the boy scouts in the same group? To hell with that scum!
Is that what you told them when they kicked you out of Cub Scouts?
I think the ACLU is going to start losing more and more of these idiotic law suits.
People are just fed up!!
Excellent point, JCE. Did you see the article posted, IIRC, yesterday, about the House proposing a bill which would DEFUND THE FREAKING ACLU - taking our taxn $ away from it? I added the keywords ACLU and probably godhater/s, as is my wont. I'll try to find it and put a link on this thread.