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"SUICIDE KILLERS" -Interview Pierre Rehov Filmaker
USA Dojo/MSNBC ^ | 7/15/06

Posted on 09/10/2006 7:38:09 AM PDT by dervish

A - I came to the conclusion that we are facing a neurosis at the level of an entire civilization. Most neuroses have in common a dramatic event, generally linked to an unacceptable sexual behavior. In this case, we are talking of kids living all their lives in pure frustration, with no opportunity to experience sex, love, tenderness or even understanding from the opposite sex. The separation between men and women in Islam is absolute. So is contempt toward women, who are totally dominated by men. This leads to a situation of pure anxiety, in which normal behavior is not possible. It is no coincidence that suicide killers are mostly young men dominated subconsciously by an overwhelming libido that they not only cannot satisfy but are afraid of, as if it is the work of the devil.

Since Islam describes heaven as a place where everything on Earth will finally be allowed, and promises 72 virgins to those frustrated kids, killing others and killing themselves to reach this redemption becomes their only solution.

Q - What was it like to interview would-be suicide bombers, their families and survivors?

A - It was a fascinating and a terrifying experience. You are dealing with seemingly normal people with very nice manners who have their own logic, which to a certain extent can make sense since they are so convinced that what they say is true. It is like dealing with pure craziness, like interviewing people in an asylum, since what they say, is for them, the absolute truth. I hear a mother saying "Thank God, my son is dead." Her son had became a shaheed, a martyr, which for her was a greater source of pride than if he had became an engineer, a doctor or a winner of the Nobel Prize.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News; Israel; Philosophy; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: islam; islamofascist; israel; jihad; palestinian; pierrerehov; rehov; sexualfrustration; sexualneurosis; shaheed; suicidekillers; terror
SUICIDE KILLERS The Psychology Behind Suicide Bombings By Pierre Rehov, Documentary Filmmaker On July 15, MSNBC's "Connected" program discussed the July 7th London attacks.

One of the guests was Pierre Rehov, a French filmmaker who has filmed six documentaries on the intifada by going undercover in the Palestinian areas. Pierre's upcoming film, "Suicide Killers," is based on interviews that he conducted with the families of suicide bombers and would-be bombers in an attempt to find out why they do it. Pierre agreed to a request for a Q&A interview here about his work on the new film.

Q - What inspired you to produce "Suicide Killers," your seventh film?

A - I started working with victims of suicide attacks to make a film on PTSD (Post Traumatic Stress Disorder) when I became fascinated with the personalities of those who had committed those crimes, as they were described again and again by their victims. Especially the fact that suicide bombers are all smiling one second before they blow themselves up.

Q - Why is this film especially important?

A - People don't understand the devastating culture behind this unbelievable phenomenon My film is not politically correct because it addresses the real problem, showing the real face of Islam. It points the finger against a culture of hatred in which the uneducated are brainwashed to a level where their only solution in life becomes to kill themselves and kill others in the name of a God whose word, as transmitted by other men, has become their only certitude.

Q - What insights did you gain from making this film? What do you know that other experts do not know?

A - I came to the conclusion that we are facing a neurosis at the level of an entire civilization. Most neuroses have in common a dramatic event, generally linked to an unacceptable sexual behavior. In this case, we are talking of kids living all their lives in pure frustration, with no opportunity to experience sex, love, tenderness or even understanding from the opposite sex. The separation between men and women in Islam is absolute. So is contempt toward women, who are totally dominated by men. This leads to a situation of pure anxiety, in which normal behavior is not possible. It is no coincidence that suicide killers are mostly young men dominated subconsciously by an overwhelming libido that they not only cannot satisfy but are afraid of, as if it is the work of the devil.

Since Islam describes heaven as a place where everything on Earth will finally be allowed, and promises 72 virgins to those frustrated kids, killing others and killing themselves to reach this redemption becomes their only solution.

Q - What was it like to interview would-be suicide bombers, their families and survivors of suicide bombings?

A - It was a fascinating and a terrifying experience. You are dealing with seemingly normal people with very nice manners who have their own logic, which to a certain extent can make sense since they are so convinced that what they say is true. It is like dealing with pure craziness, like interviewing people in an asylum, since what they say, is for them, the absolute truth. I hear a mother saying "Thank God, my son is dead." Her son had became a shaheed, a martyr, which for her was a greater source of pride than if he had became an engineer, a doctor or a winner of the Nobel Prize.

This system of values works completely backwards since their interpretation of Islam worships death much more than life. You are facing people whose only dream, only achievement goal is to fulfill what they believe to be their destiny, namely to be a Shaheed or the family of a shaheed.

They don't see the innocent being killed, they only see the impure that they have to destroy.

Q - You say suicide bombers experience a moment of absolute power, beyond punishment. Is death the ultimate power?

A - Not death as an end, but death as a door opener to the after life. They are seeking the reward that God has promised them. They work for God, the ultimate authority, above all human laws. They therefore experience this single delusional second of absolute power, where nothing bad can ever happen to them, since they become God's sword.

Q - Is there a suicide bomber personality profile? Describe the psychopathology.

A - Generally kids between 15 and 25 bearing a lot of complexes, generally inferiority complexes. They must have been fed with religion. They usually have a lack of developed personality. Usually they are impressionable idealists. In the western world they would easily have become drug addicts, but not criminals. Interestingly, they are not criminals since they don't see good and evil the same way that we do If they had been raised in an Occidental culture, they would have hated violence. But they constantly battle against their own death anxiety The only solution to this deep-seated pathology is to be willing to die and be rewarded in the afterlife in Paradise.

Q - Are suicide bombers principally motivated by religious conviction?

A - Yes, it is their only conviction. They don't act to gain a territory or to find freedom or even dignity. They only follow Allah, the supreme judge, and what He tells them to do.

Q - Do all Muslims interpret jihad and martyrdom in the same way?

A - All Muslim believers believe that, ultimately, Islam will prevail on earth.They believe this is the only true religion and there is no room, in their mind, for interpretation. The main difference between moderate Muslims and extremists is that moderate Muslims don't think they will see the absolute victory of Islam during their lifetime, therefore they respect other beliefs. The extremists believe that the fulfillment of the Prophecy of Islam and ruling the entire world as described in the Koran, is for today. Each victory of Bin Laden convinces 20 million moderate Muslims to become extremists.

Q - Describe the culture that manufactures suicide bombers.

A - Oppression, lack of freedom, brain washing, organized poverty, placing God in charge of daily life, total separation between men and women, forbidding sex, giving women no power whatsoever, and placing men in charge of family honor, which is mainly connected to their women's behavior.

Q - What socio-economic forces support the perpetuation of suicide bombings?

A - Muslim charity is usually a cover for supporting terrorist organizations. But one has also to look at countries like Pakistan, Saudi Arabia and Iran, which are also supporting the same organizations through different networks. The ironic thing in the case of Palestinian suicide bombers is that most of the money comes through financial support from the Occidental world, donated to a culture that utterly hates and rejects the West (mainly symbolized by Israel).

Q - Is there a financial support network for the families of the suicide bombers? If so, who is paying them and how does that affect the decision?

A - There used to be a financial incentive in the days of Saddam Hussein ($25,000 per family) and Yasser Arafat (smaller amounts), but these days are gone. It is a mistake to believe that these families would sacrifice their children for money. Although, the children themselves who are very attached to their families, might find in this financial support another reason to become suicide bombers. It is like buying a life insurance policy and then committing suicide.

Q - Why are so many suicide bombers young men?

A - As discussed above, libido is paramount. Also ego, because this is a sure way to become a hero. The shaheeds are the cowboys or the firemen of Islam. Shaheed is a positively reinforced value in this culture. And what kid has never dreamed of becoming a cowboy or a fireman?

- What role does the U.N. play in the terrorist equation?

A - The UN. is in the hands of Arab countries and third world or ex-communist countries. Their hands are tied. The U.N. has condemned Israel more than any other country in the world, including the regime of Castro, Idi Amin or Kaddahfi. By behaving this way, the U.N. leaves a door open by not openly condemning terrorist organizations. In addition, through UNRWA, the U.N. is directly tied to terror organizations such as Hamas, representing 65 percent of their apparatus in the so-called Palestinian refugee camps. As a support to Arab countries, the U.N. has maintained Palestinians in camps with the hope to "return" into Israel for more than 50 years, therefore making it impossible to settle those populations, which still live in deplorable conditions. Four hundred million dollars are spent every year, mainly financed by U.S. taxes, to support 23,000 employees of UNRWA, many of whom belong to terrorist organizations (see Congressman Eric Cantor on this subject, and in my film "Hostages of Hatred").

Q - You say that a suicide bomber is a 'stupid bomb and a smart bomb' simultaneously. Explain what you mean.

A - Unlike an electronic device, a suicide killer has until the last second the capacity to change his mind. In reality, he is nothing but a platform representing interests which are not his, but he doesn't know it.

Q - How can we put an end to the madness of suicide bombings and terrorism in general?

A - Stop being politically correct and stop believing that this culture is a victim of ours. Radical Islamism today is nothing but a new form of Naziism. Nobody was trying to justify or excuse Hitler in the 1930s. We had to defeat him in order to make peace one day with the German people.

Q - Are these men traveling outside their native areas in large numbers? Based on your research, would you predict that we are beginning to see a new wave of suicide bombings outside the Middle East?

A - Every successful terror attack is considered a victory by the radical Islamists. Everywhere Islam expands there is regional conflict. Right now, there are thousands of candidates for martyrdom lining up in training camps in Bosnia, Afghanistan and Pakistan. Inside Europe, hundreds of illegal mosques are preparing the next step of brain washing to lost young men who cannot find a satisfying identity in the Occidental world. Israel is much more prepared for this than the rest of the world will ever be. Yes, there will be more suicide killings in Europe and the U.S. Sadly, this is only the beginning and is expected to continue for the next 50 to 75 years.

1 posted on 09/10/2006 7:38:10 AM PDT by dervish
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To: dervish

I have read this before, and it is a good analysis of the pathopsychology in islam. I think he sums it up beautifully in his first paragraph.


2 posted on 09/10/2006 7:41:46 AM PDT by SuzyQue (Remember to think.)
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To: SuzyQue

Have you seen any of Rehov's films?

His "Road to Jenin" was the first to really expose the 'Pallywood' (ie news creation) phenomenon that got so much recent attention in the Lebanon war.


3 posted on 09/10/2006 7:46:52 AM PDT by dervish (the worst are filled with passionate intensity)
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To: SuzyQue

Very few can doubt that Islam is a very sick culture. The question is what can we do about it? When faced with its worst adherents who directly threaten us, we kill them. That's totally understandable from a perspective of self preservation. But what about the rest?

Much like the job we did in educating the USSR's population it's going to be a very long process. Check back in about 2050.


4 posted on 09/10/2006 7:48:18 AM PDT by kjo
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To: dervish
I've always harbored a theory that, in striking at the Trade Center (which seemed to obsess the Muslims), the terrorists were acting out a case of penis envy writ large. Those two towering buildings, ever-present reminders of Islam's Freudian inadequacy, had to be destroyed to emasculate the superior culture.

I'm no psychologist, but it all seems to fit.

5 posted on 09/10/2006 7:57:53 AM PDT by IronJack (ALL)
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To: kjo
When faced with its worst adherents who directly threaten us, we kill them. That's totally understandable from a perspective of self preservation. But what about the rest?

Banish them on pain of death. Don't waste sympathy on a cancer.

6 posted on 09/10/2006 8:00:16 AM PDT by IronJack (ALL)
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7 posted on 09/10/2006 8:15:38 AM PDT by Alouette (Psalms of the Day: 83-87)
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To: kjo
But what about the rest?

How about offering them the opportunity to convert to Christianity, and if they refuse, then kill them. I realize this is not a serious suggestion, but at least they would understand it.

8 posted on 09/10/2006 8:25:51 AM PDT by layman (Card Carrying Infidel)
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To: IronJack
I've always harbored a theory that, in striking at the Trade Center (which seemed to obsess the Muslims), the terrorists were acting out a case of penis envy writ large. Those two towering buildings, ever-present reminders of Islam's Freudian inadequacy, had to be destroyed to emasculate the superior culture.

Interesting !

9 posted on 09/10/2006 8:36:49 AM PDT by Red Boots
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To: dervish

Boy, this sure does sound accurate to me.

A lot of liberals talk about "root causes" of terrorism. This guy thinks that poverty, and lack of freedom (with respect to both job opportunity and personal freedom, both sexual and otherwise) leads to the inferiority complex and low self-esteem resulting in fresh meat for the Homicide Bomb recruiters.

You would think that liberals would appreciate this effort in Iraq and Afghanistan to decrease poverty via capitalism and freedom to choose an occupation, as well as political freedom to not have to run your life, business or other aspects of your life by strictly adhering to a religious guideline, but no...they don't support that approach.

Must be too "nuanced" for them. Sheesh. No matter what argument liberals are involved in, they want to have it ALL ways, and protest when anyone points that out.


10 posted on 09/10/2006 8:40:32 AM PDT by rlmorel (Islamofacism: It is all fun and games until someone puts an eye out. Or chops off a head.)
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To: dervish
His WEBSITE

I want to see this one.

A_R

11 posted on 09/10/2006 8:44:12 AM PDT by arkady_renko
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To: dervish
Very interesting.

I once speculated that from a psychological standpoint, the typical 9/11 terrorist bore a striking similarity to the Columbine high school killers.

12 posted on 09/10/2006 9:00:57 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (Can money pay for all the days I lived awake but half asleep?)
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To: IronJack
Wow, I had never thought of that angle! It does make sense in light of the revelations we're getting about radical islamism. But how does one explain the seemingly well integrated Moslems, with good jobs like engineers and happy children and westernized wives? How do we reconcile their murderous actions when they have achieved an escape from what Rehov identifies as the festering source of Islamism's power to pervert the mind to bloody allah's wooing.
13 posted on 09/10/2006 9:28:36 AM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: arkady_renko

Thank you for the link. I want to see this one too!

These films are available for showing by organizations/groups through his publicist .


14 posted on 09/10/2006 9:30:10 AM PDT by dervish (the worst are filled with passionate intensity)
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Now that I think about it, the behavior of the 911 highjackers, jumping into the sleazy sexual underworld and gambling is a plain indication of sexual perverseness.


15 posted on 09/10/2006 9:30:29 AM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: Red Boots

Allah has not blessed them, having only bestowed them with gherkins..


16 posted on 09/10/2006 9:54:30 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty ( Make America and the world a jihad free zone!)
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To: dervish

No, I haven't seen any of his films. This article was the first I had heard of him. Thanks, I'll look.


17 posted on 09/10/2006 10:35:48 AM PDT by SuzyQue (Remember to think.)
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To: MHGinTN
they have achieved an escape from ... the festering source of Islamism's power

Not as long as they subscribe to Islam. They like to pretend this is a case of disenfranchisement or marginalization or "cultural hegemony" or some such rhetorical diarrhea. But in fact, this is purely ideological: Islam's framework of earthly morality is different than Judeo-Christianity's, and the two are irreconcilable. If you profess Islam, you are committed to eliminating Christians, Jews, and anyone else who does not practice Islam.

Christians are not exhorted to murder all those who disagree with them; Muslims are. Escaping the source of Islam's power means escaping Islam period.

18 posted on 09/10/2006 10:35:58 AM PDT by IronJack (ALL)
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19 posted on 09/10/2006 3:06:48 PM PDT by SJackson (The PilgrimsóDoing the jobs Native Americans wouldn't do!)
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Q - What was it like to interview would-be suicide bombers, their families and survivors of suicide bombings?

A - It was a fascinating and a terrifying experience. You are dealing with seemingly normal people with very nice manners who have their own logic, which to a certain extent can make sense since they are so convinced that what they say is true. It is like dealing with pure craziness, like interviewing people in an asylum, since what they say, is for them, the absolute truth. I hear a mother saying "Thank God, my son is dead." Her son had became a shaheed, a martyr, which for her was a greater source of pride than if he had became an engineer, a doctor or a winner of the Nobel Prize.

"The girls sometimes played childish pranks on each other. On on occasion, when Fatima didn't want Zaynab to go home, she cajoled her younger sister Iman into hiding Zaynab's shoes and her head covering until the curfew sounded, so she was stuck there all night.

Bin Laden's chirdren did not see him as being nearly as pious and intransigent as the rest of the community did, When Fatima wanted to borrow several cassette tapes, Zaynab told her "I'll give them to you on one condition. Your dad shouldn't hear them, because some men are very strict."
"My dad is not going to destroy them," Fatima protested. "He's not really that hard. He just actsthat way in front of the men."
"He actually listens to the songs?" Zaynab asked amazed
"Oh yeah he doesn't mind."

Fatima: one of OBL's daughters
Zaynab: one of al Zawahiri's daughters
"The Looming Tower"
Lawrence Wright
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20 posted on 09/10/2006 3:49:40 PM PDT by Valin (http://www.irey.com/)
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To: IronJack

Christians are not exhorted to murder all those who disagree with them

Today, no but there is a history of it.
It's my opinion that the 30 years war really shook Europe up over this.


21 posted on 09/10/2006 3:54:02 PM PDT by Valin (http://www.irey.com/)
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To: Valin
Today, no but there is a history of it.

A long, lonnnnnngggggggg time ago. If we were still in that mode, Islam would long ago have ceased to exist. I can't think of a better target for a nuke.

22 posted on 09/10/2006 6:51:41 PM PDT by IronJack (ALL)
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