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Airline terror baggage ban hits a bum note: musicians
AFP ^ | Sun Sep 10 | Katherine Haddon

Posted on 09/10/2006 8:02:03 PM PDT by Westlander

A group of top classical musicians has warned of the threat to artistic life from a hand baggage ban introduced after police foiled an alleged bomb plot against transatlantic airliners.

Many performers refuse to let their instruments, often centuries old and extremely valuable, out of their sight when they travel on planes in case they are damaged in the hold.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: airline; bags; ban; musicians; rop; terror; terrorwar; trop; waronterror
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1 posted on 09/10/2006 8:02:07 PM PDT by Westlander
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To: Westlander
A group of top classical musicians has warned of the threat to artistic life

Ohh boo friggin hooo being an "artistic type' is soooo hard wah wah wah.

2 posted on 09/10/2006 8:06:43 PM PDT by badpacifist (Stop the suffrage of uninformed voters)
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To: Westlander

Dang it, now those Middle Eastern err, um, "bands" flying out to Vegas will have to go to Plan B.


3 posted on 09/10/2006 8:07:11 PM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: badpacifist

Yea, fault the western musicians who don't want to sacrifice 300 years + of western christian music tradition based on muslim produced fear. I am all for these musicians.


4 posted on 09/10/2006 8:09:57 PM PDT by The Cuban
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To: Westlander
A group of top classical musicians has warned of the threat to artistic life.

Change careers to become contemporary artists by using your instruments as platforms to cover with elephant dung.

5 posted on 09/10/2006 8:10:02 PM PDT by 69ConvertibleFirebird (Never argue with an idiot. They drag you down to their level, then beat you with experience.)
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To: Westlander

New tactic.

Terrorists disguised as "artists" will whine endlessly about the damage done to their art until the pilot, of his own free will, crashes the plane into the ground.

No need for box cutters or explosives.


6 posted on 09/10/2006 8:10:45 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: badpacifist

Not a lot of chamber music gets to your trailer park, does it?


7 posted on 09/10/2006 8:12:08 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny
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To: Westlander

As a frequent flyer, I feel for these guys.


8 posted on 09/10/2006 8:14:03 PM PDT by RightOnTheLeftCoast
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To: Westlander

"Many performers refuse to let their instruments, often centuries old and extremely valuable, out of their sight when they travel on planes in case they are damaged in the hold.
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smart, luggage flies meters when thrown, can have very heavy items dropped from above onto it, etc.


9 posted on 09/10/2006 8:14:30 PM PDT by WoofDog123
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To: Westlander

Well, it's stupid. I wouldn't let my hi-priced fiddle out of my sight, either. I've never minded checking Fender Gtars though, they're built like canoe paddles. If we'd just...I don't know, maybe...PROFILE, and make Muslims check their "centuries old" fiddles, we'd be safe enough.


10 posted on 09/10/2006 8:14:54 PM PDT by genetic homophobe (it lay dormant most of my life)
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To: badpacifist

So you prefer to have a ban on carry-on luggage as opposed to ban on terrorists?

It'd be safer to simply ban Muslims from flying...

...instead of allowing Muslims to fly, but banning anything that could possibly ever be used to fashion any sort of item that could ever be considered harmful.


11 posted on 09/10/2006 8:16:51 PM PDT by gogogodzilla (I criticize everyone... and then breath some radioactive fire and stomp on things.)
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To: Westlander

I'm with the musicians on this one. When I played sax, no way would I ever let me tenor out of my sight. It was not worth anything near a Stradivarius, but it was irreplaceable and easily damaged.


12 posted on 09/10/2006 8:18:43 PM PDT by July 4th (A vacant lot cancelled out my vote for Bush.)
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To: Westlander

I understand their concerns.

I knew a bagpiper who checked his pipes. When he saw the case come up on the carousel, he noticed that one latch was unlocked. Grabbing the case and flinging it open, he realized that his worst nightmare had come true:

Someone had put a second set of bagpipes in.


13 posted on 09/10/2006 8:21:37 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows ("I've never seen so many testicles in my life.")
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To: July 4th

30K Cello, top dollar hard case...

destroyed.

Thanks US Air.

No comp., wasn't marked "delicate", "Fragile, Musical instrumant" not good enough.


14 posted on 09/10/2006 8:23:00 PM PDT by sschaloc
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To: badpacifist
Sorry, dude. I'm a professional musician. Ever seen someone's livelihood destroyed by a baggage handler? I have. There are some musical instruments that are not replaceable. I know a cellist who had an instrument that was worth over $100,000 dollars- and it arrived at her destination destroyed. It was a serious blow to her finances and her career that she is still recovering from to this day (that's with the insurance policy, as well) and that was eight years ago. Hell, I've had three thousand dollars of damage done to my trumpets in flight before. So remember- this can actually cause someone a significant problem. I don't care if you're a plumber, a carpenter, and electrician, or a musician- you can't do the job without the right tools.

"Ohh boo friggin hooo being an "artistic type' is soooo hard wah wah wah."

Also remember, a professional ballplayer is considered to be fantastic if get gets a hit every third try. Musicians have to be perfect. You miss once, you get fired. Just imagine what your favorite band would sound like if they missed two thirds of the notes!!!

I have worked too hard for my entire life in the effort to achieve perfection solely for other peoples enjoyment for your comment to go unanswered.
15 posted on 09/10/2006 8:25:43 PM PDT by musical_airman (You don't wield supreme autocratic power just because some watery tart lobs a scimitar at you!?!?!)
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To: Slings and Arrows
Someone had put a second set of bagpipes in.

LOL! Shame on you! For some strange reason, I love bagpipe music. I don't understand why people don't like it.

On a serious note, these instruments are how the musicians earn their living. A bang, a dent, can ruin a guitar as much as it can a concert violin. We need to get smart about airline travel and start PROFILING. Leave grandma and Yo Yo Ma alone.

16 posted on 09/10/2006 8:27:09 PM PDT by radiohead (Hey Kerry, I'm still here; still hating your lying, stinking, guts you coward.)
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To: Psycho_Bunny

Nice flame ....funny too! We who fly all have hassles now. Artists just whine louder and maybe have better tone than the rest of us out here.


17 posted on 09/10/2006 8:27:58 PM PDT by badpacifist (Stop the suffrage of uninformed voters)
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To: radiohead

I love pipe music too...and pipe jokes.

And I quite agree re the musicians - I play, and I'd never check an instrument.


18 posted on 09/10/2006 8:33:12 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows ("I've never seen so many testicles in my life.")
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To: radiohead
On a serious note, these instruments are how the musicians earn their living.

Musical instruments are not the only ones at risk. Sometimes I travel with carefully calibrated electronic instruments. Having those bashed in the baggage hold would negate the purpose of the trip, even if the instruments weren't permanently damaged and could be re-calibrated once I got home again.

19 posted on 09/10/2006 8:34:35 PM PDT by JoeFromSidney (My book is out. Read excerpts at www.thejusticecooperative.com)
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To: Westlander

The idiocy of a one-size-fits-all bureaucracy. There must be a way to inspect and bond those instruments, especially when prior arrangements are made.


20 posted on 09/10/2006 8:35:33 PM PDT by NonValueAdded (Katherine Harris for US Senate!)
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