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Letter to DoJ - Investigate Democrat Senators Who Threatened Disney/ABC
09/12/2006 | Doc Farmer

Posted on 09/12/2006 8:34:00 AM PDT by DocFarmer

Folks,

I'm planning to send a letter to the DoJ as regards last week's attempt by five lib/dem/soc/commie senators to stop the ABC program, "The Path To 9/11". However, since I'm not a member of the legal profession, I'm not sure if I've worded this correctly. I'd appreciate any help or advice you'd be willing to provide. Many thanks.

Doc Farmer

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The Honorable Alberto R. Gonzales

Attorney General of the United States

Department of Justice

Room 4400

950 Pennsylvania Avenue, N.W.

Washington, D.C. 20530-0001

12 September 2006

Dear Mr. Attorney General,

I write today to request a formal investigation of five (5) United States Senators

Senator Harry Reid

Senator Dick Durbin

Senator Debbie Stabenow

Senator Charles Schumer

Senator Byron Dorgan

on the following charges:

(1) Violation of the First Amendment of the Constitution of the United States of America

(2) Violation of the Senate Oath of Office

(3) Abuse of Power

(4) Attempted Blackmail/Extortion

The specifics of the accusation are as such. On or about 07 September 2006, the above-mentioned Senators sent a letter to one Mr. Robert Iger, the President and Chief Executive Officer of the Walt Disney Corporation (hereinafter referred to as Disney). In that letter, the Senators made specific threats of legal action against the corporation unless they removed or significantly edited a privately-funded and created television program, entitled “The Path To 9/11”. The Senators used the letter to threaten Disney and its program distributor, the American Broadcasting Corporation (hereinafter referred to as ABC) with sanctions (including but not limited to the revocation of broadcasting licenses of ABC affiliate stations) should their demands not be met.

In the matter (1) above, the action of these elected government officials is a clear violation of the First Amendment of the Constitution of the United States of America, which provides all private citizens with the right to comment on government actions (past and present) without fear of reprisal or interference by the government. While Congress may create laws to regulate broadcast frequencies (as “public” airways), they have no business controlling political content, whether it be “positive” or “negative” coverage. To threaten a private corporation with sanctions simply because a certain political party or group may disagree with the message is a most fundamental and base violation of American rights.

In the matter (2) above, the action of the Senators shows a clear disregard of their Oath of Office, to wit:

I do solemnly swear that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this obligation freely, without any mental reservation or purpose of evasion; and that I will well and faithfully discharge the duties of the office on which I am about to enter: So help me God.

The letter sent by the Senators shows a clear disregard of their oath to support and defend the Constitution (and all of its amendments), as well as their inability to bear true faith and allegiance to same.

In the matter (3) above, the actions of the Senators show, they have gone beyond the scope and authority of their good offices, and have indeed abused their position of power not only in the Senate, but as part of the Senate leadership. While no elected official should be tolerated in such a base manner, the fact that these five Senators are part of the Senate hierarchy makes their action all the more offensive.

In the matter (4) above, the actions of the Senators show, their actions are such that they tried to blackmail or extort actions (not funds) from Disney and ABC, if the demands in their letter were not met. The fact that Disney and ABC did not bow to that pressure does not excuse or ameliorate their attempt.

The letter from the Senators mentioned in specifications (1) through (4) (inclusive) is a matter of public record, and can be obtained by your office directly, from the Senate offices, or from the recipient of the threat (Mr. Robert Iger).

I would appreciate that swift action be taken to investigate this obscene action by duly elected officials of the United States Senate.

Many thanks.

Yours sincerely,

Doc Farmer

cc: Senator Harry Reid

Senator Dick Durbin

Senator Debbie Stabenow

Senator Charles Schumer

Senator Byron Dorgan

Senator Bill Frist

Mr. Robert Iger

President George W. Bush


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Folks,

I'm planning to send a letter to the DoJ as regards last week's attempt by five lib/dem/soc/commie senators to stop the ABC program, "The Path To 9/11". However, since I'm not a member of the legal profession, I'm not sure if I've worded this correctly. I'd appreciate any help or advice you'd be willing to provide. Many thanks.

Doc Farmer

1 posted on 09/12/2006 8:34:03 AM PDT by DocFarmer
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To: Congressman Billybob

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2 posted on 09/12/2006 8:35:15 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If you aren't part of the solution, there is good money to be made prolonging the problem.)
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To: DocFarmer

You're going on the DOJ watch list.


3 posted on 09/12/2006 8:35:36 AM PDT by toddlintown (Six bullets and Lennon goes down. Yet not one hit Yoko. Discuss.)
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To: AppyPappy

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5 posted on 09/12/2006 8:38:01 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: DocFarmer

I think you would have marginally better luck with writing to the ACLU. The DOJ seems more interested in what the big guys do or say.


6 posted on 09/12/2006 8:38:10 AM PDT by cripplecreek (If stupidity got us into this mess, then why can't it get us out?)
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To: toddlintown

I'm telling!!


7 posted on 09/12/2006 8:38:18 AM PDT by the_Watchman
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To: DocFarmer

The Dem Senators had a temper tantrum, but they didn't do anything illegal. The Dem Senators were engaging in free speech, a First Amendment right they have. They exercised it irresponsibly, but they didn't use the power of their office in any manner to punish ABC.

You are tilting at windmills.


8 posted on 09/12/2006 8:40:24 AM PDT by SolidSupplySide
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To: DocFarmer

I say go for it. I doubt the DoJ will do anything, but the point needs made and you did it very well.


9 posted on 09/12/2006 8:41:04 AM PDT by M1Tanker (Proven Daily: Modern "progressive" liberalism is just National Socialism without the "twisted cross")
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To: DocFarmer

I'm not a lawyer either. However, last time I consulted one, they advised me that I should not threaten to bring prosecution in exchange for anything. This type of extortion is illegal. If the Senators hinted that the actions of Disney were illegal, then threats of prosecution are also illegal.


10 posted on 09/12/2006 8:43:55 AM PDT by the_Watchman
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To: SolidSupplySide
They implied that they would use their power as members of Congress to punish ABC.

That would be an historic violation of the First Amendment.

11 posted on 09/12/2006 8:44:57 AM PDT by wideawake ("The nation which forgets its defenders will itself be forgotten." - Calvin Coolidge)
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To: SolidSupplySide

Respectfully, I disagree. They attempted to use their position in the government to block the free speech rights of ABC/Disney. To me, that is a direct violation of the First Amendment.

As to tilting at windmills, you say that as if it were a bad thing... :D

Seriously, SOMEbody has to take these scumbags to task for their actions...


12 posted on 09/12/2006 8:45:18 AM PDT by DocFarmer
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To: M1Tanker
Go ahead and send your letter. You have the right.

then, consider that Sabbenow is vulnerable and up for reelection.

13 posted on 09/12/2006 8:46:14 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: SolidSupplySide
The Dem Senators had a temper tantrum, but they didn't do anything illegal.

You may not be correct.

Yes, they have every right to free speech. However, as the lawmakers of the land, they cannot threaten ABC with revocation of their broadcast license (which they did) just because they do not like what is being aired. At the least, this would be a seem to be serious abuse of power.

14 posted on 09/12/2006 8:46:24 AM PDT by technomage (NEVER underestimate the depths to which liberals will stoop for power.)
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To: the_Watchman

What I asked for in "exchange" in my original article on this subject was for those Senators to retract their letter and to apologise. I don't believe that can be viewed as a "threat", but their actions in the letter to Iger (in which they used the Communications Act as a leverage point) DOES constitute a threat.

Frankly, I'm not too concerned with what the Senators or the DoJ think. I'm more concerned with doing what I believe to be right.


15 posted on 09/12/2006 8:47:57 AM PDT by DocFarmer
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To: the_Watchman

There are a lot of thoughts on this and many of them differ. Is there an attorney out there who can advise if this is worthwhile or foolhardy so this gentleman can decide what to do? His intentions are good.


16 posted on 09/12/2006 8:49:01 AM PDT by kempster
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To: DocFarmer
I don't believe that can be viewed as a "threat",

It appears you misunderstood the post. I believe the post was referring to the Senators, not you.

17 posted on 09/12/2006 8:50:09 AM PDT by technomage (NEVER underestimate the depths to which liberals will stoop for power.)
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To: DocFarmer

18 posted on 09/12/2006 8:51:19 AM PDT by Gritty (If there is any dream left in the Left, it is a dream of power - Lars Hedegaard)
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To: technomage

Sorry, my bad. I thought you meant that MY threat of prosecution action against the Senators would be illegal (which I have to admit confused me).


19 posted on 09/12/2006 8:51:32 AM PDT by DocFarmer
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To: DocFarmer

Go for it! Shouldn't Bill Clinton be included though, as well as his attorney?


20 posted on 09/12/2006 8:53:37 AM PDT by trustandobey
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To: DocFarmer

I think you might think about making this (or something a little less wordy) an op-ed to a conservative leaning newspaper....


21 posted on 09/12/2006 8:54:02 AM PDT by goodnesswins (I think the real problem is islamo-bombia! (Rummyfan))
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To: trustandobey

I thought about that, but since Slick Willie wasn't a signatory to the letter, and did not make an official "threat" of government action against Disney/ABC, I don't think the charges could be applied to him.


22 posted on 09/12/2006 8:54:48 AM PDT by DocFarmer
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To: goodnesswins

Already did, to an extent -


http://www.chronwatch.com/content/contentDisplay.asp?aid=23630


23 posted on 09/12/2006 8:55:28 AM PDT by DocFarmer
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To: toddlintown
I bet before Gonzales even gets a whiff of it... Jaime GORElick will have already deleted it from her laptop... with a chuckle.
24 posted on 09/12/2006 8:59:56 AM PDT by johnny7 (“And what's Fonzie like? Come on Yolanda... what's Fonzie like?!”)
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To: johnny7

I thought she didn't work there anymore...


25 posted on 09/12/2006 9:04:36 AM PDT by DocFarmer
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To: DocFarmer

I think it's a great letter and you sound just like a lawyer (musta typed it from a Holiday Inn Express). Saying a prayer for positive results.


26 posted on 09/12/2006 9:05:19 AM PDT by Quilla
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To: Quilla
and you sound just like a lawyer

Geez, there's no reason to get insulting... :D
27 posted on 09/12/2006 9:07:37 AM PDT by DocFarmer
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To: SolidSupplySide
Actually, he probably is (tilting at windmills) but in an era where not being allowed to produce simulated kid porn can be adjudged as against the first amendment, I would say that a bunch of Senators using official stationery to infer ABC's right to broadcast would be taken away might be illegal.

I mean, if Bush sent a letter to CBS inferring the same for their biased broadcasting, you know the ACLU would be all over it. Maybe that's the direction to go.

Have them spend all their ill gotten gains on something useful for once.

PS. I never send letters to the government, unless they write me first. I'd rather pretend I'm not here.

28 posted on 09/12/2006 9:08:37 AM PDT by I still care ("Remember... for it is the doom of men that they forget" - Merlin, from Excalibur)
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To: DocFarmer

I agree with you. They are in violation. The letter sounds good to me and sure cannot hurt.


29 posted on 09/12/2006 9:11:13 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: DocFarmer
Sheesh, what was I thinking? Please forgive me.
30 posted on 09/12/2006 9:15:16 AM PDT by Quilla
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To: Dante3

These are the same loons saying Bush is the one abusing his power and violating civil liberties?? God help us all. If they ever control Congress and the presidency again I truly fear free speech will be eroded and more basic rights will disappear.


31 posted on 09/12/2006 9:15:39 AM PDT by TNCMAXQ
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To: technomage
BUMP

BTW, for whatever reason, I am unable tor respond to several posts here but can to others.

32 posted on 09/12/2006 9:15:57 AM PDT by Dante3
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To: I still care

That won't work, because the ACFLU is funded by taxpayers (us). They attack free speech, they don't defend it.


33 posted on 09/12/2006 9:16:02 AM PDT by DocFarmer
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To: DocFarmer
>>>I thought she didn't work there anymore...<<<

She doesn't, but she will be your Attorney General if the Dems win in 2008!

34 posted on 09/12/2006 9:19:48 AM PDT by HardStarboard (Hey, march some more - its helping get the wall built!)
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To: DocFarmer
>>>I thought she didn't work there anymore...<<<

She doesn't, but she will be your Attorney General if the Dems win in 2008!

35 posted on 09/12/2006 9:19:52 AM PDT by HardStarboard (Hey, march some more - its helping get the wall built!)
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To: HardStarboard

That thought is just too frightening to comprehend...


36 posted on 09/12/2006 9:21:03 AM PDT by DocFarmer
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To: DocFarmer

The DOJ definitely won't get involved, as there was no overt action taken and the attempted extortion charge would be so politically hot that they would fear a backlash. However, you should definitely send this or a similar letter to the Senate Ethics Committee chairman (George Voinovich) and request that each of these Senators be formally censured (expulsion is probably too much to expect).


37 posted on 09/12/2006 9:51:36 AM PDT by Doug Loss
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To: Doug Loss

I'll be sure to add the Ethics Committee chair to the cc list. Should I also include the President Pro Tempore and Sergeant at Arms?


38 posted on 09/12/2006 9:53:00 AM PDT by DocFarmer
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To: Tiggs6

"Second, given that the letter was made available to the public and given that Senators all have attorneys available, I doubt that there is any case to be made."

A threat, an attempt to extort actions from someone, is not determined to be valid or invalid simply because it was made in public and those making the threat have lawyers.

There may be other reasons for which Doc's course of action will not bear fruit. Your reasons are not among them.


39 posted on 09/12/2006 9:54:04 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: DocFarmer

You are not understanding my comment. I am not suggesting that your actions are illegal. You would be drawing the attention of the DOJ to potentially illegal actions. That is perfectly acceptable and is not a problem whether those actions are illegal or not.

I am suggesting a way to bolster your charge of "extortion" against the Senators. While their threats of Federal agency action are despicable, they are not illegal. However, if they suggested prosecution, then that could be viewed as either "prior restraint" or threatening prosecution, which is illegal.


40 posted on 09/12/2006 9:57:30 AM PDT by the_Watchman
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To: DocFarmer

I appreciate your idealism. I doubt the attorney general would accept your wish and open an investigation (it is not GWBs nature to fight his political fights in the same aggressive spirit as the Dims).

However, in the arena of public opinion, with the enough help ($$$) the mass marketing of a public notice of your request could help achieve the public sanctioning of the Dims that they deserve.


41 posted on 09/12/2006 9:58:18 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: DocFarmer

>Frankly, I'm not too concerned with what the Senators or the DoJ think. I'm more concerned with doing what I believe to be right.<

I'd be willing to co-sign that letter with you, Doc. We all know what happens when good men do nothing, so go for it!


42 posted on 09/12/2006 9:58:48 AM PDT by Paperdoll
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To: the_Watchman

Ah, I understand now. Thanks for the clarification!


43 posted on 09/12/2006 10:10:13 AM PDT by DocFarmer
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To: SolidSupplySide; All

Using an official public government office and the power of that office to threaten to take action against those who make political statements in dissent to your political sentiments, simply because you do not want their political statements aired does constitute the use of an official position to attempt to extort the said action demanded in the threat. It is illegal; whether or not the threat was answered by meeting its demands.

Whether or not GWB wants to engage his political position in acknowledging that clear power-abusing threat and its illegality is another matter.


44 posted on 09/12/2006 10:11:11 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: Paperdoll

I appreciate the offer, Paperdoll. When I complete the letter's final draft, I'll send a formatted copy to anyone who wishes to send it themselves. I'll also do what I can to include all the e-Mail addresses/contacts required to send it to the DoJ and the folks on the cc list.

Many thanks.


45 posted on 09/12/2006 10:11:48 AM PDT by DocFarmer
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To: DocFarmer
I'll be sure to add the Ethics Committee chair to the cc list. Should I also include the President Pro Tempore and Sergeant at Arms?

It wouldn't hurt in my opinion. But as long as you're sending it out widely, make sure to include all the members of the Ethics Committee, the majority leader, the whip, and anyone else who seems like they might be amenable to reason. Include any Dem Sens you can; Joe Lieberman and Ben Nelson?

46 posted on 09/12/2006 10:12:32 AM PDT by Doug Loss
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To: Wuli

I wonder if a mass distribution/mailing of the letter from Freepers would be a low-cost alternative.


47 posted on 09/12/2006 10:13:00 AM PDT by DocFarmer
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To: Doug Loss

I'll make sure to send the message to ALL members of the committees and leadership as you suggest. Many thanks.


48 posted on 09/12/2006 10:19:54 AM PDT by DocFarmer
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To: Wuli
It is illegal; whether or not the threat was answered by meeting its demands.

So your position is that words can be illegal even if they aren't even intended to be followed up with action? Wow, that's a weak branch you're sitting on. Yelling "fire!" in a crowded theather would be illegal, but I don't see the Dem Senators' speech as rising to that level.

I think this is much more akin to someone saying, "You know, a lot of rich people keep money in that bank and there's not even a security guard." In your world, that would be enough to convict of conspiracy to rob a bank.

49 posted on 09/12/2006 10:27:29 AM PDT by SolidSupplySide
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To: SolidSupplySide

I disagree with your analogy. If I threaten to extort you for a million dollars if you don't do what I say, and you go to the cops with that information instead, I'm still guilty of extortion. If I threaten your ability to speak out against the government, even if you go ahead and speak, I'm still guilty of violating the First Amendment.


50 posted on 09/12/2006 10:31:39 AM PDT by DocFarmer
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