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Son Gets Marijuana for Doing Homework
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Posted on 09/12/2006 11:14:43 AM PDT by freepatriot32

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To: freepatriot32

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51 posted on 09/12/2006 12:10:04 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Preserve America... kill terrorists... destroy dims!)
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To: Chuckster

From her name and the area, do you suppose she's Amish? Except for the selling heroin part. That's pretty worldly.


52 posted on 09/12/2006 12:10:25 PM PDT by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com)
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To: green iguana
That's odd. Most heavy pot users turn out to be failures in life, never achieving higher education. They become welders, construction workers, auto mechanics, or work for the city, and become union members, whining to the government about legalizing pot. In fact pot and all things about it are their only intrest. There is always the odd exception of course.

Most I know are either dead, losers, unemployed most of the time, divorced, drink alot, are half bald with graying ponytails, And IF they own a home, it's not much of one, with weeds in the poorly kept patchy lawn, at least one car parked for years to the side of the driveway with a transmission removed and tires missing, and they have no interest in anything in life except watching TV while their kids are out breaking into other peoples cars and stealing stereos and vandalizing other peoples property. The rest are on welfare or in prison for various offenses.

Are you sure that it wasn't one of those "special classes"? Odd that the pot heads would actually be smarter than the rest of the class. It doesn't say much for your communities' gene pool.
53 posted on 09/12/2006 12:19:22 PM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: msnimje
Except for the legality issue, this is no different from the thousands, maybe millions, of parents who give their kids Ritalin everyday so they will do their homework.

Take it from someone who has been there: ritalin is way worse than mary jane ever thought about being.
54 posted on 09/12/2006 12:24:54 PM PDT by JamesP81 ("Never let your schooling interfere with your education" --Mark Twain)
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To: Nathan Zachary
Are you sure that it wasn't one of those "special classes"?

That's why I threw the size of the class in there - so a sharp person would pick up that this was not a school in a small, in-bred community.

Most I know are either dead, losers, unemployed most of the time, divorced, drink alot, are half bald with graying ponytails... The rest are on welfare or in prison for various offenses.

You sure know a lot of potheads.

55 posted on 09/12/2006 12:28:31 PM PDT by green iguana
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To: msnimje
I take issue with your Ritalin comment that you make. If you knew anything about ADD, or knew anyone that needed ritalin/concerta you wouldn't make such an asinine comment. While I don't like giving one of my children ADD drugs, I don't like the effects of not giving it to her. She never bounced off the walls, but could not concentrate and was failing despite hours of help my wife & I both gave her every night. She is doing great now thank you and will be a productive member of our society in the future. There will not be welfare kids, deadbeat dads and illegal drugs in her future. Her contributions into the failing SS system will help support A-holes like you when you are retired.

You can go forth in ignorant bliss, but please keep stupid comments like your legality issue to yourself.
56 posted on 09/12/2006 12:35:21 PM PDT by zek157
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To: Iluvpopcrn
This is a ridiculous statement. As a parent of a child who had many attention problems in school, she was given Ritalin. It helped her to focus and to retain her friends, when their parents were telling them "Stay away from her, or you'll get in trouble, too."

What's ridiculous is parents who find it easier to medicate than to be parents. Over my father's objections this stuff was force fed to me for several years. I DID NOT retain my friends in fact, I lost every one of them I ever had up until that point because I refused to talk to anyone while I was under the influence. You are not the same person while you're on it. By the time I got to where I quit taking it, I was in 8th grade. Problem is, I hadn't really socialized with anyone over the past 5 years so I literally had the social skills of a third grader. So I was further isolated from my peers. You have no concept how thoroughly bad for a person Ritalin can be. It took nothing short, literally, of an act of God for me to ever get away from it (plus a move to another city).

People who use marijuana ought to get nothing more than a fine. People who sell it or give it to minors ought to see some prison or jail time. I can't say aloud what ought to be done to parents that give Ritalin to their kids instead of parenting them without violating the decency rules on FR.
57 posted on 09/12/2006 12:37:06 PM PDT by JamesP81 ("Never let your schooling interfere with your education" --Mark Twain)
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To: freepatriot32

My reward for finishing my homework is that my dad wouldn't whup me with his belt. Worked every time.


59 posted on 09/12/2006 12:42:50 PM PDT by JamesP81 ("Never let your schooling interfere with your education" --Mark Twain)
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To: Nathan Zachary

Ritalin is far more dangerous and detrimental than pot ever thought about being.


60 posted on 09/12/2006 12:44:42 PM PDT by JamesP81 ("Never let your schooling interfere with your education" --Mark Twain)
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To: Nathan Zachary
They become welders, construction workers, auto mechanics, or work for the city, and become union members,

And what's wrong with any of these, excepting the union part? Are all auto mechanics potheads? Where do you get off on all this?
61 posted on 09/12/2006 12:47:00 PM PDT by JamesP81 ("Never let your schooling interfere with your education" --Mark Twain)
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To: Paved Paradise

Even scarier - these are the ones who will be taking care of feeble Baby Boomers in nursing homes and hospitals.


62 posted on 09/12/2006 1:15:00 PM PDT by 3catsanadog (When anything goes, everything does.)
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To: SoldierDad
Anyone else recall those classmates in high school who smoked a lot of dope and received the highest grades in school?
Bill Gates?
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63 posted on 09/12/2006 1:37:52 PM PDT by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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To: Nathan Zachary
That's odd. Most heavy pot users turn out to be failures in life, never achieving higher education.

Carl Sagan?
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64 posted on 09/12/2006 1:41:20 PM PDT by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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To: msnimje
this is no different..parents who give their kids Ritalin everyday so they will do their homework..

Selling heroin to your childrens friends is no different... wow! You can't think this makes the Libertarians look good.

65 posted on 09/12/2006 1:44:52 PM PDT by bellas_sister ("MUSLIM EXTREMISTS ARE TRYING TO KILL US!!!!!!")
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To: bellas_sister
Selling heroin to your childrens friends is no different... wow!
If that's true, why wasn't she charged with selling heroin?

You can't think this makes the Libertarians look good.
Where does it say she's a Libertarian?
Do Libertarians condone selling heroin to children?
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66 posted on 09/12/2006 1:53:21 PM PDT by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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To: SoldierDad
Anyone else recall those classmates in high school who smoked a lot of dope and received the highest grades in school?

I happen to be one of those pot-heads in high school. I was always an honor roll student (A's and B's), went to University of Alabama (smoked a lot of weed there too!), and have worked all my life in the computer industry. (Check out most of your artsy and computer types, most have a similar background). By the way, I haven't noticed any long term effects. Unlike alcohol and tobacco.
67 posted on 09/12/2006 2:02:09 PM PDT by jrg
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To: jrg

Let me amend that last statement. No noticable long term effects except for the fact that I keep voting Republican.


68 posted on 09/12/2006 2:04:43 PM PDT by jrg
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To: All
Now - really - you do have to admit that the woman described in this story is not average. In fact - in 34 years of living in the cannabis culture - I've never seen a case like this.

Does this one example mean that the billions spent every year in the U.S. trying to track down 30 million cannabis users is justified?

I say not.

69 posted on 09/12/2006 2:09:32 PM PDT by winston2 (In matters of necessity let there be unity, in matters of doubt liberty, and in all things charity:-)
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To: freepatriot32
The 18-year-old also told investigators he had also bought heroin from Livelsberger.
70 posted on 09/12/2006 2:15:04 PM PDT by jordan8
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To: Nathan Zachary
Ha! Your comments don't say much for your community's gene pool either...you apparently need to hang around a better class of pot smokers. Most professionals I know...and yes, I did say professionals...see it as no worse than having a drink after a hard day. You wouldn't even know they smoke if they didn't tell you. Speaking of watching TV all day, it's time for you to throw out that Reefer Madness tape...amotivational syndrome is a myth
71 posted on 09/12/2006 2:22:53 PM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: jordan8
The 18-year-old also told investigators he had also bought heroin from Livelsberger

An 18 year old who hangs out with 11 years olds...This doesn't sound a little strange to you? They didn't charge her with selling heroin...why not?
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72 posted on 09/12/2006 2:41:03 PM PDT by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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To: winston2
I say not.
I agree.
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73 posted on 09/12/2006 2:42:35 PM PDT by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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To: mugs99
Hey mugs -

Does there seem to be a lot of that "mothers giving children marijuana to get children to do homework" - as far as you know? You may elaborate if you know of useful data.

74 posted on 09/12/2006 2:53:24 PM PDT by winston2 (In matters of necessity let there be unity, in matters of doubt liberty, and in all things charity:-)
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To: 3catsanadog

I really don't believe that.


75 posted on 09/12/2006 3:06:38 PM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: mugs99

I've seen evidence of both. I've known some big-time potheads who ended up (1) owning their own company after being president of another or just plain out (2) succeeded in a decent career, grew up and matured and also (3) ended up being a bicycle messenger and at age 51 that is still what he is doing. He still looks and sounds like a total burn-out too.

I think it depends on a lot of factors but I won't dispute that the likelihood to be #3 in the above scenario is greater with abuse of pot.


76 posted on 09/12/2006 3:08:24 PM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: Paved Paradise
A couple of the keys with whether a person let's cannabis control their lives:

1 - Cannabis is not strongly addictive and if a person chooses to lay it down - it's not that hard to do.

2 - If someone gets snagged up in the judicial system in regard to cannabis use and they are prone to doing mind altering substances - they may move on to less noticeable substances. (That - to me is a real bad thing about the prohibition of cannabis.)

I've been wanting to use this for a while -

Keep your laws off my bong!

77 posted on 09/12/2006 3:18:19 PM PDT by winston2 (In matters of necessity let there be unity, in matters of doubt liberty, and in all things charity:-)
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To: winston2

Lol...
Mother's giving kids pot to do homework is a new one to me.
I did know a dad who gave his son a beer for every A he got on his report card.


78 posted on 09/12/2006 3:23:51 PM PDT by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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To: freepatriot32

No good deed goes unpunished...


79 posted on 09/12/2006 3:25:07 PM PDT by streetpreacher (What if you're wrong?)
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To: Iluvpopcrn

I know I post the most ridiculous stuff on FR if I'm not popping Adderall.


80 posted on 09/12/2006 3:27:07 PM PDT by streetpreacher (What if you're wrong?)
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To: Paved Paradise
I think it depends on a lot of factors but I won't dispute that the likelihood to be #3 in the above scenario is greater with abuse of pot

Sure...That could be true of any substance abuse including alcohol.
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81 posted on 09/12/2006 3:27:28 PM PDT by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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To: Lunatic Fringe
I wonder what kind of grades he got.

When I was in College I would't study or work on papers unless I smoked pot first.

And I graduated first in my college class with a perfect 4.0 GPA.

Some people can function on pot, others can't.

82 posted on 09/12/2006 3:31:14 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: winston2
Keep your laws off my bong!
Lol


83 posted on 09/12/2006 3:35:40 PM PDT by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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To: mugs99

So, he was a classmate of yours?


84 posted on 09/12/2006 3:42:16 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Father of an American Soldier)
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To: mugs99
I did know a dad who gave his son a beer for every A he got on his report card.

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Tell the truth now -

Was that kid you?

85 posted on 09/12/2006 3:42:46 PM PDT by winston2 (In matters of necessity let there be unity, in matters of doubt liberty, and in all things charity:-)
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To: jrg

So, then you are the model for all high school students who smoked copious amounts of dope? We should expect, then, that all dope smokers were on the honor roll, attended the University of Alabama, and work in the Art or Computer industry. Don't generalize your experience to everyone else. I knew plenty of students in high school who smoked dope and couldn't find a coherent sentence with both hands and assistance from their classroom teacher.


86 posted on 09/12/2006 3:46:01 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud Father of an American Soldier)
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To: SoldierDad

No, he's the son of a neighbor...That was when the kid was in high school...He's in med school now.


87 posted on 09/12/2006 3:46:26 PM PDT by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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To: winston2
Lol
No, my dad wasn't that easy!
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88 posted on 09/12/2006 3:50:20 PM PDT by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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To: mugs99

Did you see the public service ad where they admit that smoking pot won't turn you into a raving psycho. Now their reasoning for throwing pot smokers in jail is that they will just sit on a couch and do nothing. The mind of a Drug Warrior is a terrible waste (or something like that).


89 posted on 09/12/2006 4:11:15 PM PDT by Scarlet Pimpernel
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To: Scarlet Pimpernel
The mind of a Drug Warrior is a terrible waste (or something like that).
ROFL!!!
That's a great one!

Did you see the public service ad where they admit that smoking pot won't turn you into a raving psycho.
They admit that they lied in the past, but now they should be believed when they say that we need to throw couch potatoes in the dungeon!

I love the old drug ads. They were great comedy. William Randolph Hearst made the first one in 1929. "High On The Range" played in movie houses coast to coast. Good natured cowboy Dave takes a couple hits on a reefer, goes loco and kills the ranch foreman.

"Your Brain On Drugs" is the modern equivalent.
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90 posted on 09/12/2006 4:34:04 PM PDT by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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To: SoldierDad
Don't generalize your experience to everyone else.

Don't generalize the good experience, but don't generalize the bad one either. Up post, I wrote of 4 in the top 10 of my high school being pot smokers. Many in the bottom quarter were too. Quite a few at both ends of the spectrum drank alcohol. Quite a few at both ends still do.

91 posted on 09/12/2006 6:33:06 PM PDT by green iguana
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To: Iluvpopcrn
We had the benefit of a psychologist who saw she showed signs of depression because of her feeling "different." Thankfully we also had a school counselor in elementary school who helped her and other children realize they were able to focus by various other means, so she didn't feel she was different.

I don't want to minimize your daughters' issues with feeling different, but I'm just not convinced psychologists or counselors really impacts it at all. I too felt different, was depressed, and didn't fit in. When it occurred to me that I had to evaluate things around me based on my own observation rather than what I thought other people thought, I got over all that and got on with my life. Getting past whatever issues we have (no matter how horrific - look at the Holocaust children) is more within our own minds, and our own control. Generally psychologists and school counselors don't mention that. I'd say I was an isolated case, but I've talked to many people who had difficult childhood/teen years who've overcome it through that realization.

92 posted on 09/12/2006 7:03:36 PM PDT by Kay Ludlow (Free market, but cautious about what I support with my dollars)
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To: Nathan Zachary

"That's odd. Most heavy pot users turn out to be failures in life, never achieving higher education. They become welders, construction workers, auto mechanics,"

Thanks. You just described me to a T.
I'm a mechanic/welder, and have been for about 18 years now. I am also a father of three, and I do all I can for my family.

So, next time you're driving down the road, or enjoying
heat from natural gas,(pipeline welders) or any number of things, remember us usless, ignorant welders and mechanics.

BTW, I was never a heavy drug user, and rarely do I drink.

It's just that I liked to work with my hands.

So, what do you do that makes you think your $hit don't stink?

"And IF they own a home, it's not much of one, with weeds in the poorly kept patchy lawn, at least one car parked for years to the side of the driveway with a transmission removed and tires missing,"

I ain't even gonna touch this one. Well, I might. I have quite a few cars sitting around. They're Chrysler muscle cars that my ignorant self put together. The cheapest one is worth about 25,000 dollars. From there they go up. Way up.( 440 -6 pack Road Runner, GTX, 383 Challenger, 340 Duster.... oops.. forgot the '66 Chevelle SS, and '68 Mustang)

I'm doing fine for an ignoramus.


93 posted on 09/12/2006 7:10:29 PM PDT by 383rr (Those who choose security over liberty deserve neither- GUN CONTROL=SLAVERY)
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To: winston2

I know we have disagreed on some things.

But I'm so sick, and tired of the whining nanny-statists,that I'm backing you guys up now. I want to keep my freedom, and I'll be damned if I'm going to participate in taking anyone else's away.

Nanny-statists. To hell with them.



94 posted on 09/12/2006 7:19:38 PM PDT by 383rr (Those who choose security over liberty deserve neither- GUN CONTROL=SLAVERY)
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To: 383rr
It's good to see you!

BTW - I have always admired the principle expressed in your tag line. May I add you and your tag line to a best tag line list on my about page?

95 posted on 09/12/2006 8:34:43 PM PDT by winston2 (In matters of necessity let there be unity, in matters of doubt liberty, and in all things charity:-)
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To: SoldierDad
Anyone else recall those classmates in high school who smoked a lot of dope and received the highest grades in school?/sarc

Yes, I was one of them. No sarcasm.

96 posted on 09/12/2006 8:41:52 PM PDT by Just another Joe (Warning: FReeping can be addictive and helpful to your mental health)
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To: winston2
Absolutely, my friend.
97 posted on 09/12/2006 8:48:41 PM PDT by 383rr (Those who choose security over liberty deserve neither- GUN CONTROL=SLAVERY)
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To: mugs99

There is an appropriate time and place for alcohol - it is widely used in celebrations - even communion. There is no equivalent to pot.


98 posted on 09/13/2006 3:17:25 PM PDT by Paved Paradise
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To: Paved Paradise
There is an appropriate time and place for alcohol - it is widely used in celebrations - even communion. There is no equivalent to pot

Your drug is good...the other guy's drug is evil?
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99 posted on 09/13/2006 7:09:14 PM PDT by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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To: Jorge

So, you are unique?


100 posted on 09/13/2006 11:07:48 PM PDT by Treader (Human convenience is always on the edge of a breakthrough, or a sellout)
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