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Cervical Cancer Shot May Be Standard In 6th Grade
The Indy Channel ^ | September 12, 2006 | AP

Posted on 09/13/2006 4:14:30 AM PDT by Abathar

A bipartisan group of Michigan lawmakers wants all sixth-grade girls to be vaccinated against cervical cancer.

A Republican state senator who is the lead sponsor said it's the first legislation of its kind in the U.S.

The vaccine was approved by federal regulators this summer and hailed as a breakthrough in cancer prevention. The shots prevent infections from strains of a sexually transmitted virus -- human papilloma virus, or HPV -- that can cause cervical cancer and genital warts.

At the time, conservatives expressed concern that schools would require the vaccine for enrollment. They argue that such mandates infringe on parents' rights and send a message that underage sex is OK.

If approved, the measure would go into effect for the next school year.

The vaccine was approved for females between ages 9 and 26. In studies, it was credited with preventing disease from the two types of HPV that are responsible for approximately 70 percent of all cervical cancers, according to Detroit television station WDIV.

The legislator who proposed the requirement noted that, as with all other school-required vaccines, parents may opt out of this requirement for medical, religious or philosophical reasons.


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1 posted on 09/13/2006 4:14:31 AM PDT by Abathar
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To: Abathar
A Republican state senator who is the lead sponsor said it's the first legislation of its kind in the U.S.

Correction: A RINO state senator who is the lead sponsor said it's the first legislation of its kind in the U.S.

No way would I do this to my daughter if she were that age.

2 posted on 09/13/2006 4:19:50 AM PDT by mombonn (God is looking for spiritual fruit, not religious nuts.)
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To: Abathar

Idiocy. Hysterical idiocy molded into legislation.


3 posted on 09/13/2006 4:20:23 AM PDT by bvw
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To: Abathar

Here's how I see it: Where the parents are paying attention to what's going on in their daughter's life, they opt out. If the parent(s) is NOT paying attention, that shot could save that kid's life.


4 posted on 09/13/2006 4:22:00 AM PDT by hunter112 (Total victory at home and in the Middle East!)
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To: Abathar
I can understand schools requiring immunization against communicable dieases that spread during ordinary activity. It is necessary to protect the kids from one another.

That is not the case for this disease. It is a STD. It is communicated from males to females via sexual intercourse.

While it may be wise to immunize young girls, it should not be a requirement. Besides intruding on the rights of the parents there may be unknown long term effects.

This is but one more rational for home schooling.

5 posted on 09/13/2006 4:23:44 AM PDT by Jeff Gordon (Is tractus pro pensio.)
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To: Abathar
In studies, it was credited with preventing disease from the two types of HPV that are responsible for approximately 70 percent of all cervical cancers, according to Detroit television station WDIV.

This isn't a panacea in any case.

6 posted on 09/13/2006 4:27:36 AM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: hunter112
"If the parent(s) is NOT paying attention, that shot could save that kid's life."

It's the parents' responsibility, not the govt's.
7 posted on 09/13/2006 4:30:06 AM PDT by LIConFem (Just opened a new seafood restaurant in Great Britain, called "Squid Pro Quid")
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To: Jeff Gordon

It is a STD. It is communicated from males to females via sexual intercourse.


The government schools encourage the girls to act like sluts. This is just to elimiinate some of the side effects.


8 posted on 09/13/2006 4:33:49 AM PDT by freedomfiter2
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To: mombonn

What is the logic of rejecting a treatment that prevent CANCER?


9 posted on 09/13/2006 4:37:14 AM PDT by Clara Lou (8-))
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To: freedomfiter2

I am not familiar with this disease. It is obviously transmitted by promiscuity. Can it also be transmitted in (real) monogamous relations?


10 posted on 09/13/2006 4:37:19 AM PDT by Jeff Gordon (Is tractus pro pensio.)
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To: Abathar

All they're going to do is create more resistant bacteria. Idiots.


11 posted on 09/13/2006 4:39:54 AM PDT by tkathy (Einstein: Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance.)
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To: tkathy
All they're going to do is create more resistant bacteria. Idiots.

This is a virus they are talking about.

12 posted on 09/13/2006 4:51:00 AM PDT by sonofagun
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To: Clara Lou
I should clarify - I do not support making it mandatory.

When and if a young woman is vaccinated should be up to her and/or her parents.

Personally, this vaccination makes me nervous. It seems like it has been rushed to market.

13 posted on 09/13/2006 4:55:06 AM PDT by mombonn (God is looking for spiritual fruit, not religious nuts.)
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To: Clara Lou
What is the logic of rejecting a treatment that prevent CANCER?

Puritannical hogwash. If the situation was reversed, and men got cancer from HPV, the vaccine would have been mandatory the day it was developed.

14 posted on 09/13/2006 4:57:51 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: Abathar

http://www.merck.com/product/usa/pi_circulars/g/gardasil/gardasil_ppi.pdf

http://www.merck.com/product/usa/pi_circulars/g/gardasil/gardasil_pi.pdf

I don't like it, and would fight against it being forced on my daughter or granddaughters.


15 posted on 09/13/2006 4:58:00 AM PDT by southlake_hoosier (.... One Nation, Under God.......)
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To: freedomfiter2

If schools are giving out birth control to 6th graders, carrying girls to abortion clinics without parental concent, why not give them a shot to prevent an STD...???


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16 posted on 09/13/2006 4:59:02 AM PDT by TheBattman (I've got TWO QUESTIONS for you....)
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To: mombonn
Personally, this vaccination makes me nervous. It seems like it has been rushed to market.

You've got that right. All these big drug companies have to do is flash a little cash in the right direction.

17 posted on 09/13/2006 5:00:14 AM PDT by southlake_hoosier (.... One Nation, Under God.......)
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To: mombonn

And I most likely would, but it should definitely be a parent's, not a legislator's, decision.


18 posted on 09/13/2006 5:00:18 AM PDT by linda_22003
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To: Abathar

You are causing knee dislocations. ;-)


19 posted on 09/13/2006 5:03:31 AM PDT by verity (The MSM is comprised of useless eaters)
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To: Clara Lou

Its a sex cancer caused by casual sex.

There is the unusual occurence of a promiscuous** man giving it to a non-promiscuous woman, assuming that a non-promiscuous woman ends up marrried to a promiscuous man.

Which means a 6th grader is not going to get it unless she is promiscuous or raped.




**promiscuity: any sex outside of marriage


20 posted on 09/13/2006 5:07:14 AM PDT by Notwithstanding (OEF vet says: I love my German shepherd - Benedict XVI reigns!)
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To: Jeff Gordon

see # 20


21 posted on 09/13/2006 5:09:14 AM PDT by Notwithstanding (OEF vet says: I love my German shepherd - Benedict XVI reigns!)
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To: Abathar

My daughters won't be getting it.


22 posted on 09/13/2006 5:13:10 AM PDT by truthandlife ("Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the LORD our God." (Ps 20:7))
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To: Notwithstanding
Which means a 6th grader is not going to get it unless she is promiscuous or raped at any time during the rest of her life.


23 posted on 09/13/2006 5:13:59 AM PDT by Jeff Gordon (History convinces me that bad government results from too much governemnt. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: freedomfiter2

"The government schools encourage the girls to act like sluts. This is just to elimiinate some of the side effects."

The I got new for you and you better sit down for it. Nearly every girl will have sex at some time in her life.

The vacine doesn't work nearly as well when given later in life so what's the problem with her having it whe it will actually be most effective at preventing her from getting cancer?


24 posted on 09/13/2006 5:14:20 AM PDT by Grig
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To: Abathar

In Arkansas hospitals, they are already giving hepatitis-c shots to NEWBORNS - no consent required.

They are assuming everyone is a hooker, drug addict, homosexual?


25 posted on 09/13/2006 5:14:27 AM PDT by TimesDomain (www.timerealms.com)
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To: Jeff Gordon

It's an extremely common virus, prevalence over 20% in the larger population and over 30% in teenage girls. Of course exclusive lifetime mutual monogamy is a great way to prevent it, assuming one's partner never ever cheats. While infections usually clear by about nine months, sometimes infection can last one to two years, so it's possible a woman's fiance could still be infected at the time they get married, thus infecting her. Even if a person trusts his daughter to behave, are you going to trust her fiance have been always abstinent? And unfortunately a woman doesn't always have a choice, as there is also the possibility of rape.

HPV is not well-known in spite of being very common, and doesn't really serve as a deterrent to premarital sex in teenagers at all. I don't think there are any grounds for saying that this vaccine encourages promiscuity, but it definitely can serve as a means to protect girls who are monogamous.


26 posted on 09/13/2006 5:15:13 AM PDT by ahayes ("The wicked flee when no one is pursuing, but the righteous are as bold as a lion." -- Prov 28:1)
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To: Jeff Gordon

"I am not familiar with this disease. It is obviously transmitted by promiscuity. Can it also be transmitted in (real) monogamous relations?"

I'm not sure how men become cariers of the virus, but staying a virgin until married won't protect a woman from getting it on her honeymoon night.


27 posted on 09/13/2006 5:19:19 AM PDT by Grig
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To: ahayes
Thank you for the reply. It does seem like some people are forgetting that this vaccine will protect a young girl for the rest of her life and that the vaccine needs to be given before the girl is sexually active.

I would feel pretty bad if my chaste young daughter contracted this cancer at age 40 because I failed to protect at age 6.

28 posted on 09/13/2006 5:22:00 AM PDT by Jeff Gordon (History convinces me that bad government results from too much governemnt. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Abathar

Any daugher of mine would definitely be getting the vaccine. I'm a very big proponent of disease prevention via any disease and get all vaccinations possible. A multi-level approach is the best. ANd the arguement that a vaccine against one STD is going to increase likelihood of engaging in sexual activity doesn't hold water when you that to the sex drive intensity of teenagers. That's where the sexual activity comes from, not a needle in the arm.


29 posted on 09/13/2006 5:27:34 AM PDT by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: Jeff Gordon

I think it's a wise thing to do - I just have the strongest objections to the gov't requiring children to be immunized against a disease that is not casually transmissible in the schools.

Mrs VS


30 posted on 09/13/2006 5:29:46 AM PDT by VeritatisSplendor
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To: mombonn

The immunization confers a long-term resistance to HPV. That also means the girls are less likely to get cervical cancer from something their husband will bring home (after all, the odds are they will eventually marry). Don't forget, promiscuity has been a largely male domain.


31 posted on 09/13/2006 5:30:28 AM PDT by punster
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To: TimesDomain
In Arkansas hospitals, they are already giving hepatitis-c shots to NEWBORNS - no consent required.

I don't think any infant is getting a Hepatitis C vaccine. There is no such thing. They may be getting a Hepatitis A or B vaccine. Hepatitis B is a nasty liver diease that will seriously affect your health for years and can be fatal. It is good to be protected from these diseases.

32 posted on 09/13/2006 5:31:36 AM PDT by doc30 (Democrats are to morals what and Etch-A-Sketch is to Art.)
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To: Abathar

These nanny state types expect our daughters to be whores.


33 posted on 09/13/2006 5:33:34 AM PDT by Modok
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To: Abathar

Not for my girl it won't. She will not have sex until she is married (my husband and I pray) and if she goes against our teachings and does choose fornicate, she will have to go out and get her own shot when she is 18.


34 posted on 09/13/2006 5:34:45 AM PDT by brwnsuga
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I don't know for sure if the immunity will be lifelong, but so far there's no apparent loss of immunity at five years. I guess further studies will give more information. Certainly coverage into the early twenties would cover the time that many women are becoming engaged and married (the husbands of whom the odds say many are not virgins!)


35 posted on 09/13/2006 5:35:00 AM PDT by ahayes ("The wicked flee when no one is pursuing, but the righteous are as bold as a lion." -- Prov 28:1)
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To: ahayes

And just why is this VD/STD cancer so common but so unknown?

Because the sex addicts who are cramming sex education down the kids' throats refuse to be honest with these kids about the consequnces of promiscuity.

They treat it all as if having sex today is good as long as you do it the right way, while hiding the truth about how promiscuity is almost certain to cause some major catastrophe in a typical promiscuous woman's life (VD/STD, pregnancy, abortion, loss of self-esteem due to fully justified lack of self-respect that leads to abusive relationships, loose behavior that attracts date-rapsists).


36 posted on 09/13/2006 5:35:57 AM PDT by Notwithstanding (OEF vet says: I love my German shepherd - Benedict XVI reigns!)
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To: VeritatisSplendor

I totally agree.


37 posted on 09/13/2006 5:36:34 AM PDT by Jeff Gordon (History convinces me that bad government results from too much governemnt. - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: brwnsuga
What if she marries a guy who slept once with his then-girlfriend a year and a half previously, and unfortunately she gave him HPV and he then gives it to your daughter? This vaccine can protect women from developing a deadly cancer through no fault of their own.
38 posted on 09/13/2006 5:36:39 AM PDT by ahayes ("The wicked flee when no one is pursuing, but the righteous are as bold as a lion." -- Prov 28:1)
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To: Clara Lou

What is the logic of rejecting a treatment that prevent CANCER?

To me the logic for rejecting the shot is that they want you to immunize the child when she is 11 years old. Basically stating to the child "that you are going to have sex soon and we don't want you to get genital warts". In my opinion its like taking a child to get on birth control pills.


39 posted on 09/13/2006 5:37:15 AM PDT by brwnsuga
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To: Notwithstanding

More because it wasn't known for a long time that HPV is linked to cervical cancer. For men it appears to have no negative effects at all.


40 posted on 09/13/2006 5:37:27 AM PDT by ahayes ("The wicked flee when no one is pursuing, but the righteous are as bold as a lion." -- Prov 28:1)
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To: punster

The women's movement has certainly succeeded in creating a nation of sluts.

Promiscuity is an equal opportunity past-time.


41 posted on 09/13/2006 5:37:38 AM PDT by Notwithstanding (OEF vet says: I love my German shepherd - Benedict XVI reigns!)
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To: freedomfiter2

communicated from males to females via sexual intercourse.

and from females to males and if you google some pics you can see the disgusting results in both sexes


42 posted on 09/13/2006 5:38:39 AM PDT by brwnsuga
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To: mombonn
Yeah sure.... parents may 'opt out'....

...until it's mandated that jr high age girls must have this shot.

And it will be.

Try opting out your baby from HepB & other extraneous shots....

...good luck in finding a pediatrician to take you....
..good luck in public school entrance...etc.etc.

43 posted on 09/13/2006 5:39:47 AM PDT by Guenevere
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To: tkathy

All they're going to do is create more resistant bacteria. Idiots.

Bacteria are completely different from viruses so it shouldn't have that result.


44 posted on 09/13/2006 5:40:31 AM PDT by brwnsuga
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To: brwnsuga

Additionally vaccines are completely different from antibiotics!


45 posted on 09/13/2006 5:42:03 AM PDT by ahayes ("The wicked flee when no one is pursuing, but the righteous are as bold as a lion." -- Prov 28:1)
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To: Notwithstanding
Which means a 6th grader is not going to get it unless she is promiscuous or raped.

From what I understand, the vaccine is not effective when given later in life, when sexual activity is more appropriate.

I may be wrong, though.

46 posted on 09/13/2006 5:42:55 AM PDT by Trailerpark Badass
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To: Grig
Then let the grown woman choose to have this shot...

..rather than force it on pubescent girls.

47 posted on 09/13/2006 5:43:13 AM PDT by Guenevere
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To: brwnsuga

I guess you'll show HER. ;)


48 posted on 09/13/2006 5:43:44 AM PDT by linda_22003
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To: Wolfie
If the situation was reversed, and men got cancer from HPV, the vaccine would have been mandatory the day it was developed.

Utter nonsense.

49 posted on 09/13/2006 5:45:09 AM PDT by Sloth ('It Takes A Village' is problematic when you're raising your child in Sodom.)
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To: brwnsuga

Death from cervical cancer would certainly be a tough lesson for both the child and her parents....but then you gotta do what you gotta do.


50 posted on 09/13/2006 5:49:52 AM PDT by Jeff Gordon (History convinces me that bad government results from too much governemnt. - Thomas Jefferson)
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