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Test nonlethal weapons on U.S. citizens, official says
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/chronicle/4182615.html ^ | Sept. 13, 2006, 12:51AM | By LOLITA C. BALDOR

Posted on 09/13/2006 6:42:45 AM PDT by rightgrafix

WASHINGTON - Nonlethal weapons such as high-power microwave devices should be used on American citizens in crowd-control situations before they are used on the battlefield, the Air Force secretary said Tuesday.

Domestic use would make it easier to avoid questions in the international community over any possible safety concerns, said Air Force Secretary Michael Wynne.

"If we're not willing to use it here against our fellow citizens, then we should not be willing to use it in a wartime situation," said Wynne.

"(Because) if I hit somebody with a nonlethal weapon and they claim that it injured them in a way that was not intended, I think that I would be vilified in the world press."

The Air Force has funded research into nonlethal weapons, but he said the service isn't likely to spend more money on development until injury issues are reviewed by medical experts and resolved.

Nonlethal weapons can weaken people if they are hit with the beam.

Some of the weapons can emit short, intense energy pulses that also disable some electronic devices.


TOPICS: Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: airforce; banglist; donutwatch; dumbass; govwatch; libertarians; microwavedevices; neofascist; nonlethalweapons; notajoke; openmouthshovefoot; wot
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To: Mark-in-Kentucky
HOW-STUPID-ARE-WE Dept.

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Air Force Secretary Muhammed Wynne:
"If we're not willing to use it here against our fellow citizens,
then we should not be willing to use it in a wartime situation.
We have just taken out three US cities to test our new nukes."


21 posted on 09/13/2006 6:53:54 AM PDT by Diogenesis (Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum)
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To: ClearCase_guy

"Use the term "non-lethal" only if we're convinced that they are."

Yeah..I think the disclaimer is "less-lethal".


22 posted on 09/13/2006 6:53:58 AM PDT by happinesswithoutpeace (You are receiving this broadcast as a dream)
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To: rightgrafix

Apparently this idiot thinks the police forces aren't militarized enough. Does she know the difference between "to serve and protect" and "to kill and destroy?"


23 posted on 09/13/2006 6:56:10 AM PDT by coloradan (Failing to protect the liberties of your enemies establishes precedents that will reach to yourself.)
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To: rightgrafix
The good general needs help. Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting
24 posted on 09/13/2006 6:56:27 AM PDT by NYleatherneck (It ain't a World War until the French surrender.)
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To: rightgrafix
Let me see if I have this straight... we should test weapons intended to be non-lethal on American citizens, for the purpose of determining whether or not they are, in fact, non-lethal. As opposed to testing them on, say, Al Qaeda fighters in Iraq, whom we would be otherwise killing anyway?

WTF?!

25 posted on 09/13/2006 6:56:36 AM PDT by Gordongekko909 (Mark 5:9)
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To: Diogenesis

My thoughts exactly.


26 posted on 09/13/2006 6:56:42 AM PDT by ukie55
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To: ksen

Agreed. This guy should be the first tester.


27 posted on 09/13/2006 6:57:01 AM PDT by rightgrafix
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To: rightgrafix

So this jackboot would rather test them on his fellow citizens than the Islamofacists overseas...very telling.


28 posted on 09/13/2006 6:57:18 AM PDT by Xenophon450 ("Study the past, if you would divine the future." - Confucius)
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To: rightgrafix

Would someone PLEASE run some tests on the DC water supply and find out once and for all what it is that scrambles the brains of our "leadership"?


29 posted on 09/13/2006 6:57:26 AM PDT by AngryJawa ({NRA}{IDPA} Proud Infidel Since 1968)
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To: rightgrafix

Let me guess: Clinton appointee?


30 posted on 09/13/2006 6:58:04 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: happinesswithoutpeace
Yeah..I think the disclaimer is "less-lethal".

I do want to be clear:

I have no problem with having two categories of weapons -- "Weapons we use domestically" and "Weapons we use in foreign countries". I just have a problem if we pretend that we can wage a non-lethal, bloodless war with our advanced weapons, which -- by the way -- are too horrific to use in our country.

To me, that shows dangerously muddled thinking. We lose our wars because we screw up the political aspects of war. This is a potential example of how we get things wrong.

31 posted on 09/13/2006 6:58:24 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (The broken wall, the burning roof and tower. And Agamemnon dead.)
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To: rightgrafix

Let's mount them on poles in all high-crime areas and activate the devices during the high-crime hours. Yeah, there's a good idea.

P.S. sarcasm....


32 posted on 09/13/2006 6:58:46 AM PDT by AbeKrieger (Liberals are the Mongol herds destroying America from within.)
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To: RacerF150
"If we're not willing to use it here against our fellow citizens, then we should not be willing to use it in a wartime situation"

OK, let's apply that same thinking to bunker-busers, nuclear weapons, etc... what a moron !!!!

33 posted on 09/13/2006 6:59:48 AM PDT by AbeKrieger (Liberals are the Mongol herds destroying America from within.)
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To: rightgrafix
Air Force Secretary Muhammed Wynne. Could this be why?
34 posted on 09/13/2006 7:00:19 AM PDT by Xenophon450 ("Study the past, if you would divine the future." - Confucius)
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To: rightgrafix

They use these on Americans and the lawsuits will fly. Really, really dumb idea.


35 posted on 09/13/2006 7:01:08 AM PDT by LadyNavyVet
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To: Larry Lucido

Nope.

http://www.af.mil/bios/bio.asp?bioID=7919


36 posted on 09/13/2006 7:02:44 AM PDT by rightgrafix
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To: rightgrafix
I think that I would be vilified in the world press.

If it's good enough for our citizens its good enough for the enemy. The age of the PC War's, where the strong can never be allowed to win and the weak are left able to fight on forever using all means available.

37 posted on 09/13/2006 7:05:32 AM PDT by Realism (Some believe that the facts-of-life are open to debate.....)
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To: misterrob

How about an ANSWER rally???


38 posted on 09/13/2006 7:08:19 AM PDT by Thunder90
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To: rightgrafix

Leftist Clinton holdover?


39 posted on 09/13/2006 7:08:20 AM PDT by Clock King ("How will it end?" - Emperor; "In Fire." - Kosh)
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To: Xenophon450

Yep, definately a Clintoon appointee....


40 posted on 09/13/2006 7:10:31 AM PDT by Thunder90
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