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Test nonlethal weapons on U.S. citizens, official says
http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/chronicle/4182615.html ^ | Sept. 13, 2006, 12:51AM | By LOLITA C. BALDOR

Posted on 09/13/2006 6:42:45 AM PDT by rightgrafix

WASHINGTON - Nonlethal weapons such as high-power microwave devices should be used on American citizens in crowd-control situations before they are used on the battlefield, the Air Force secretary said Tuesday.

Domestic use would make it easier to avoid questions in the international community over any possible safety concerns, said Air Force Secretary Michael Wynne.

"If we're not willing to use it here against our fellow citizens, then we should not be willing to use it in a wartime situation," said Wynne.

"(Because) if I hit somebody with a nonlethal weapon and they claim that it injured them in a way that was not intended, I think that I would be vilified in the world press."

The Air Force has funded research into nonlethal weapons, but he said the service isn't likely to spend more money on development until injury issues are reviewed by medical experts and resolved.

Nonlethal weapons can weaken people if they are hit with the beam.

Some of the weapons can emit short, intense energy pulses that also disable some electronic devices.


TOPICS: Government; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: airforce; banglist; donutwatch; dumbass; govwatch; libertarians; microwavedevices; neofascist; nonlethalweapons; notajoke; openmouthshovefoot; wot
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To: rightgrafix
Nonlethal weapons such as high-power microwave devices should be used on American citizens in crowd-control situations before they are used on the battlefield,...

BS!! Test them on the battlefield first. If they turn out to be lethal, at least our enemies find out first.

41 posted on 09/13/2006 7:10:41 AM PDT by WorkerbeeCitizen (Religion of peace my arse - We need a maintenance Crusade)
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To: rightgrafix

Better yet, let's call them lethal weapons, and when the target doesn't die, we'll tell them how lucky they are to be alive!


42 posted on 09/13/2006 7:11:30 AM PDT by airborne (Fecal matter is en route to fan! Contact is imminent!)
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To: rightgrafix

This isn't satire, is it? Please?


43 posted on 09/13/2006 7:11:30 AM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: rightgrafix

You've gotta be kidding me...right?


44 posted on 09/13/2006 7:12:01 AM PDT by Ex-Democrat Dean
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To: rightgrafix

Are we sure this isn't a transcript from one of those Rush Limbaugh satire spots? It sure reads like one.


45 posted on 09/13/2006 7:12:38 AM PDT by Plexi
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Nope, he's a Bush appointee.

http://www.af.mil/bios/bio.asp?bioID=7919


46 posted on 09/13/2006 7:13:24 AM PDT by rightgrafix
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To: rightgrafix

"If we're not willing to use it here against our fellow citizens... "(Because) if I hit somebody with a nonlethal weapon..."


Best be careful, boy. Some of us citizens don't take kindly to tyrants and might just hit back.

47 posted on 09/13/2006 7:17:45 AM PDT by EdReform (Protect our 2nd Amendment Rights - Join the NRA today - www.nra.org)
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To: misterrob
Why is this country so hung up on what other countries think?!?!?! Does France care what we think of them? Does China? Does Russia? Does Germany? NO!!! I wish we could elect some leaders that actually had a set of 'nads that weren't afraid to use our military and weaponry as necessary to eliminate threats to the western world.

I'm not talking about nuking them, but we can take the gloves off and put a hellacious hurt on them and let them know if any, and I mean any, terrorist attack happens against the US again, we will obliterate all that is holy to them.

48 posted on 09/13/2006 7:17:56 AM PDT by Paco
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To: rightgrafix
Air Force Secretary Michael Wynne is unfit for command. I hope his superiors realize it and pinch him off.
49 posted on 09/13/2006 7:20:05 AM PDT by No Blue States
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To: rightgrafix

Camp Casey Weapons Proving Ground...


50 posted on 09/13/2006 7:20:30 AM PDT by LRS
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To: rightgrafix

Scrappleface. Right?


51 posted on 09/13/2006 7:25:58 AM PDT by Chaguito
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To: rightgrafix
"If we're not willing to use it here against our fellow citizens, then we should not be willing to use it in a wartime situation," said Wynne.

This is really a pretty stupid thing to say...

52 posted on 09/13/2006 7:26:37 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner ("Si vis pacem para bellum")
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To: rightgrafix; Badray; CodeMasterPhilzar; smokeyb; jim_g_goldwing
"Domestic use would make it easier to avoid questions in the international community over any possible safety concerns, said Air Force Secretary Michael Wynne. "If we're not willing to use it here against our fellow citizens, then we should not be willing to use it in a wartime situation," said Wynne."

Second Amendment Ping. I think our concept of KBA needs to change.....to include directed energy weapons.
53 posted on 09/13/2006 7:28:34 AM PDT by Conservative Goddess (Politiae legibus, non leges politiis, adaptandae)
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To: rightgrafix

??????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

Where do they get these idiots????

How about testing it in Gitmo???


54 posted on 09/13/2006 7:29:33 AM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis, Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts, and guns made America great.)
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To: rightgrafix

"If we're not willing to use it here against our fellow citizens, then we should not be willing to use it in a wartime situation"

This guy needs to be escorted out of his office, today, this morning, right now.


55 posted on 09/13/2006 7:33:03 AM PDT by sanchmo (If we wish to learn what was going on in Europe in 1938, just look around - V.D. Hanson)
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To: rightgrafix
Domestic use would make it easier to avoid questions in the international community over any possible safety concerns, said Air Force Secretary Michael Wynne.

You have got to be kidding. I'm not saying that they shouldn't be tested here first (they should; a battlefield is a terrible place to test anything), but the "international community"'s "safety concerns" should have nothing to do with it. How does someone spouting this kind of junk get to be an Air Force Secretary? He sounds like a perennial wimp.

56 posted on 09/13/2006 7:37:20 AM PDT by SeƱor Zorro ("The ability to speak does not make you intelligent"--Qui-Gon Jinn)
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To: rightgrafix

How about starting with the US congress? Cannot we please ship all these congress people to North Korea and hope that little twit over there is stupid enough to keep them!


57 posted on 09/13/2006 7:37:29 AM PDT by Tannerone
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To: rightgrafix

There's always the 9/11 blackshirt crowd. They could have had a big test session on Monday.

I would have been glad to squeeze off a few 'non-lethal' rounds...


58 posted on 09/13/2006 7:41:08 AM PDT by rock_lobsta (Offending liberals since 1993)
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To: rightgrafix

This seems to be nothing new.

Didn't our government do this already? I remember back in the early 70's the papers announcing that our military leaders admitted to flying over some American cities and dumping small diluted amounts of biological or chemical weapons to observe if there would be any reaction.

Also didn't our government once detonate a nuclear devise up wind of a small town out west, to see what the effects of fallout would be on a population?? I remember 60 Minutes doing a story on it. The fallout looked like snow falling in the summer. The people of the town suffered many deformities and cancers.

I also remember something about them having a group of our soldiers in trenches close to a nuclear detonation, and then having them leave the trenches and march through ground zero soon after?.


59 posted on 09/13/2006 7:41:33 AM PDT by Main Street (Stuck in traffic)
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To: rightgrafix
Test them on ACLU and CAIR offices. It'd be a good place to start.
60 posted on 09/13/2006 7:49:36 AM PDT by b4its2late (I'm not insensitive, I just don't care.)
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