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SoCal heirs of Armenians file lawsuit against German banks
CBS5 ^ | Wednesday September 13, 2006

Posted on 09/13/2006 3:15:20 PM PDT by nickcarraway

Heirs of Armenians killed nearly a century ago in the Turkish Ottoman Empire can proceed with a lawsuit against two German banks they claim owe them millions of dollars.

Federal Judge Margaret M. Morrow's ruling on Monday allows the class-action suit to move ahead. No trial date was set.

Deutsche Bank A.G. and Dresdner Bank A.G. were sued in January. Seven Armenians living in Southern California are seeking unspecified millions of dollars for assets such as gold, cash and jewelry that they claim were deposited by thousands of their ancestors at the banks' Turkish branches or otherwise looted by the Ottoman Turkish government and later transferred to European banks.

The suit is the latest bid by Armenians in the United States to recover assets they believe belonged to some 1.5 million Armenians who perished in a genocide beginning in 1915.

Litigation brought against New York Life Insurance Co. by Armenian descendants led to a $20 million settlement; French life insurer AXA has agreed to pay $17 million to settle a separate class-action claim. Both lawsuits made similar allegations.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: getoverit

1 posted on 09/13/2006 3:15:21 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway
Huh? How about sueing the Turks first who actually killed your ancestors in the first place? Not as much money in that, eh?

I guess I should look into sueing the Swedish royal family for what they did to my ancestors in the Thiry Years War. For starters. And then those damn Italians because they invaded our country for no reason in the year 9 AD

2 posted on 09/13/2006 3:26:26 PM PDT by cartan
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To: nickcarraway
Heirs of Armenians killed nearly a century ago in the Turkish Ottoman Empire can proceed with a lawsuit against two German banks they claim owe them millions of dollars.

Federal Judge Margaret M. Morrow's ruling on Monday allows the class-action suit to move ahead.

Why, o why, does it seem that judges who make these stupid ruling are always broads?!

(That's okay. I'm a femme. I can say that.)

3 posted on 09/13/2006 3:26:42 PM PDT by yankeedame ("Oh, I can take it but I'd much rather dish it out.")
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To: cartan

Great! Can I sue England for wrongs done to my ancestors? How about getting back that land my family leased to NYC and Manhattan that somehow never came back into family? Whaaa, everyone else can sue someone so I want to too!!!


4 posted on 09/13/2006 3:30:29 PM PDT by mtbopfuyn (I think the border is kind of an artificial barrier - San Antonio councilwoman Patti Radle)
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To: cartan

This was the reason for the whole genocide recognition movement....


5 posted on 09/13/2006 3:34:40 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: nickcarraway

The Armenian genocide by the Turks has never been acknowledged by the US State Department.


6 posted on 09/13/2006 3:45:36 PM PDT by sandra_789 (.)
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To: BurbankKarl

Yeah.

The Armenians don't care that they were slaughtered and scattered all over the world.


7 posted on 09/13/2006 3:50:39 PM PDT by sandra_789 (.)
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To: sandra_789

Yes, and it's a damn shame. I highly doubt that the State Dept. has ever gotten any benefit from it.


8 posted on 09/13/2006 4:02:44 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Why are you anti-Armenian?


9 posted on 09/13/2006 4:19:20 PM PDT by sandra_789 (.)
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To: nickcarraway

The US State Dept cultivates Turkey.


10 posted on 09/13/2006 4:20:32 PM PDT by sandra_789 (.)
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To: nickcarraway

Is there any jackpot justice being pursued for Hungarian-Polish-Americans? If so, I'll await my restitution for whatever the legal leeches can dream up for us.....


11 posted on 09/13/2006 4:49:53 PM PDT by traditional1
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To: nickcarraway

Is there any jackpot justice being pursued for Hungarian-Polish-Americans? If so, I'll await my restitution for whatever the legal leeches can dream up for us.....


12 posted on 09/13/2006 4:50:36 PM PDT by traditional1
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To: sandra_789

Remember what it was Hitler said about his "Final Solution" to sell the idea to his minions:

"Who remembers what happened to the Armenians?"


13 posted on 09/13/2006 4:57:11 PM PDT by Michael121 (An old soldier knows the truth. Only a Dead Soldier knows peace.)
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To: sandra_789
What makes you think I am anti-Armenian? I was saying that the State Department should acknowledge the Armenian genocide.

I am also asking what they get out of it by not doing so. I don't believe they've gotten a concrete benefit out of it. They think they will, but in reality it doesn't do anything, except let Turkey know they can be manipulated and bullied.

14 posted on 09/13/2006 5:02:22 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: sandra_789
The Armenian genocide by the Turks has never been acknowledged by the US State Department.

...like some kind of formal declaration? Historical accuracy is always a good thing, but don't you think our State Department has enough on its plate already? Besides, a lack of formal acknowledgement by the State Dept does not mean that the US denies the atrocities. That would be Turkey.

15 posted on 09/13/2006 5:19:14 PM PDT by grellis (I don't know, let me ask my I Ching)
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To: nickcarraway
A month or two ago the US ambassador to Armenia said in a public speech that there WAS an Armenian "genocide."

He was FIRED THE NEXT DAY by his State Dept superiors.

U.S. Ambassador to Armenia fired for referring to Armenian genocide

http://www.anca.org/press_releases/press_releases.php?prid=956

http://jihadwatch.org/dhimmiwatch/archives/011578.php

Dhimmitude at State.

May 27, 2006

REP. MARKEY LEADS CONGRESSIONAL OPPOSITION TO WHITE HOUSE RECALL OF U.S. AMBASSADOR TO ARMENIA

ANCA Calls for Senate Foreign Relations Committee to Hold Hearing on Firing

WASHINGTON, DC – Over 60 Members of Congress, led by Rep. Ed Markey (D-MA), sent a letter to Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice asking for clarification on reports of U.S. Ambassador to Armenian John Evans’ recall over his forthright remarks about the Armenian Genocide, reported the Armenian National Committee of America (ANCA). The letter was sent on the eve of a May 23rd White House announcement nominating Richard Hoagland to serve as the new Ambassador to Armenia. Amb. Evans will be relieved of his duties as soon as Hoagland's Senate confirmation process is completed.

The Administration has recalled Amb. Evans over his February 2005 statements at Armenian American community functions, during which he properly characterized the Armenian Genocide as ‘genocide.’ Following his statements, Amb. Evans was apparently forced to issue a statement clarifying that his references to the Armenian Genocide were his personal views and did not represent a change in US policy. He subsequently issued a correction to this statement, replacing a reference to the genocide with the word “tragedy.”

The American Foreign Service Association, which had planned to honor Amb. Evans with the “Christian A. Herter Award,” recognizing creative thinking and intellectual courage within the Foreign Service, reportedly rescinded the award following pressure from the State Department a few days before Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan traveled to Washington, DC to meet with President Bush.

“Ambassador Evans has been recalled for doing nothing more than honoring the forsaken pledge of his president,” said ANCA Executive Director Aram Hamparian. “We want to thank Congressman Markey and his 59 colleagues for calling for a clarification and rejecting the Armenian Genocide ‘gag-rule’ imposed by the Turkish government and, sadly, enforced by our own State Department.”

"Armenian Americans truly regret that the Administration lacks the courage to speak honestly about its reasons for firing Ambassador Evans," added Hamparian. "We call upon the Senate Foreign Relations Committee - the Congressional panel constitutionally charged with oversight of diplomatic appointments - to hold a hearing thoroughly examining the reasons behind this firing, the role of the Turkish government, and the broader implications for the future of the Foreign Service that a senior American diplomat's career has been ended simply for speaking the truth."

16 posted on 09/13/2006 5:30:53 PM PDT by sandra_789 (.)
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To: grellis

More like covering it up. You get fired at the State Dept. for mentioning it. And in their various efforts, they have to ban or censor anything that may hint that such a thing happened.


17 posted on 09/13/2006 5:38:04 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Try this link..

http://armenianhouse.org/bliss/turkey/turkey-armenian-atrocities.html


18 posted on 09/13/2006 6:35:50 PM PDT by Prost1 (I get my news at Free Republic!)
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To: cartan

"How about sueing the Turks first who actually killed your ancestors in the first place? Not as much money in that, eh?"

This is a claim by decendents for assets held by a bank. The bank has an obligation to convey those assets to the legitimate owners if their claim can be verified, unless the assets have been conveyed to the state under whatever escheat laws may have applied.


FYI, the current Swedish Royal family is not the same line as Gustavus Adolphus, King at the time of the 30 years war. Can't sue them. The French monarchy has ceased to exist. You might have a better time suing the Catholic church for Cardinal Richlieu's part stirring up this war. The church, at least, is still in existance.

At any rate, I feel for the Armenians who suffered so much at the hands of the Turks. (I have read what these amnimals did to Armenians. God judge them!)



19 posted on 09/13/2006 7:27:28 PM PDT by Pete from Shawnee Mission
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