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Rhode Island's Lessons For Real Republicans (If GOP Stands For Nothing, It Deserves To Lose Alert)
Worldnetdaily.com ^ | 09/14/06 | Jane Chastain

Posted on 09/13/2006 10:45:32 PM PDT by goldstategop

How did our country stray so far from the founding principles of limited government, states' rights, self-reliance and moral integrity?

Most Americans blame it on Congress.

Americans have little faith in members of Congress, but we keep re-electing our own congressman and senators, often with little or no serious thought on the matter.

In 1994, after 40 years in the political wilderness, Republicans assumed control of Congress with the promise that they would get back to those founding principles. A few tried. Fewer are still trying, but we are torpedoing their efforts.

Even if we are alert enough to know that one or more of our elected representatives ought to be ousted and we vote accordingly, we often support efforts to keep the status quo.

How many card-carrying Republicans would purposely write out a check to elect someone who supports higher taxes, multi-million dollar pork barrel projects like the "bridge to nowhere" in Alaska, price controls, subsidies, abortion on demand, amnesty for illegal aliens, the death tax, gay rights and onerous environmental regulations that rob property owners of the right to use their land?

When you dutifully write out checks to the Republican Party, the Republican Congressional Committee or the Republican Senatorial Committee, and the political action committees of leadership, you are– more often than not – doing just that. These entities are committed to this one thing: keeping anyone elected to office with an "R" next to his or her name in that office.

If Satan himself managed to get elected to office as a Republican, the Republican Party would fight to keep him there.

Lincoln Chafee of Rhode Island is a case in point. (Any resemblance to the fictional candidate mentioned above is purely coincidental.) The Republican Senatorial Committee spent $1.2 million dollars to keep this man from being dumped in the party primary by Stephen Laffey, despite the fact that Chafee stands against virtually everything the party is pledged to support. The RSC even ran ugly attack adds against Laffey – a dedicated conservative – because he dared to enter the race.

It is next to impossible to unseat an incumbent in a primary, largely because the party is committed to keeping those incumbents in office.

Laffey's near miss shows just how fed up Republican voters in Rhode Island are with their party. Forty-six percent turned a deaf ear to party leaders who told them – in so many words – that a "real" Republican can't be elected in Rhode Island. They simply refused to support a phony one.

Laffey was elected and re-elected mayor of Cranston because he made the case for the principles Republicans are supposed to believe in. No wonder less than 15 percent of voters in Rhode Island are registered Republicans. They've never heard these principles clearly articulated in their state.

"Oh yes, please raise my taxes again. Yes, yes, please tax away my inheritance. Oh, please steal my property rights so you can protect the insects in that mud puddle in my backyard!" Can't you just hear all those voters in Rhode Island clamoring for bigger government?

This lesson from the Rhode Island primary must not be lost on conservative voters. Better to throw your money down a rat hole than to give it to the RNC, the RSC or the RCC, or one of the leadership PACs.

Most people don't have a lot of money to donate in an election, so they want to make sure they get the most bang for their bucks. That's why they simply write out a check to the party, sit back and wait and wait and wait for things to get better.

If you don't know which candidates to support, then support Political Action Committees you can trust. Club for Growth is the PAC largely responsible for Laffey's near miss. It is dedicated to electing economic conservatives. It's tripled in size in just two years and has pulled off a number of impressive wins in primary elections this year. Club for Growth and the National Taxpayers Union Campaign Fund helped unseat free spender Joe Schwartz in Michigan's 7th Congressional District.

Yes, Republicans are running scared – scared of losing their majority, but a majority of what? As the old saying goes, "If you don't stand for something, you fall for anything."

What is the worse thing that could happen if Republicans lose the Senate seat in Rhode Island? It would be held by a real Democrat.

What is the worse thing that could happen if Republicans lose control of the Senate and/or the House? They just might go back to fighting for the things they have pledged to support


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I won't be shocked if the GOP loses control of Congress in November. A party that stands for nothing deserves to lose. That's true of a party that supports a LIBERAL just to remain in power. Whatever happened to the party that once stood for limited government, federalism, individual rights and right and wrong? It became like the Democrats, worshipping government as its own end. If RINOs lost, what would happen? They would be replaced by real Democrats. At the end of the day, the GOP has to decide if it is a conservative party or a liberal party. It cannot straddle the fence in the name of protecting incumbency. Power won't get the GOP far if it repudiates everything for which it stood to keep it.

(No more Olmert! No more Kadima! No more Oslo! )

1 posted on 09/13/2006 10:45:37 PM PDT by goldstategop
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To: goldstategop

Better be careful. The automatic, yellow-dog Republicans around here will try to get you for this.


2 posted on 09/13/2006 10:49:00 PM PDT by S.S. Monkeyface
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To: goldstategop
People seem to forget that Texans are not the ones who chose the Senators in Rhode Island.

Rhode Island is a liberal state and as much as conservatives do not like it, Lincoln Chafee is the most conservative person Rhode Island is willing to send to the Senate at this point in time.

Chafee voted with President Bush 70% of the time. How often do you think Whitehouse will vote with him or the Republicans in the Senate?

I really dislike Chafee and wish things were different in Rhode Island but not enough to let the Dems have control of the Congress.
3 posted on 09/13/2006 10:51:52 PM PDT by msnimje (What part of-- "DEATH TO AMERICA" --do the Democrats not understand?)
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To: S.S. Monkeyface
This site promotes independent conservatism. There are conservatives in the GOP and they deserve our votes and our checks. And then there are Republicans for whom the party label is purely a matter of political convenience and when the chips are down, vote with the Democrats. Conservatives should want to support real Republicans. If we need to support phony Republicans as part of supping with the devil, we deserve what we get. Chaffee votes as a Democrat. So why return him to office?

(No more Olmert! No more Kadima! No more Oslo! )

4 posted on 09/13/2006 10:53:05 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

The solution, I think, is relatively simple. Just give $$$ to the Club For Growth from now on, as they are the only ones that fund true economic conservatives, who actually want to shrink government.


5 posted on 09/13/2006 10:53:53 PM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/Amnesty_From_Government.htm)
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To: msnimje
46% of R.I Republicans felt supporting a LIBERAL was not good enough for the party. If we're afraid to articulate our principles in Blue States and stand up for them, we won't get respect. People in those liberal strongholds will continue to vote for the real liberals, the Democrats. And they would be right since a RINO GOP is no improvement on the status quo.

(No more Olmert! No more Kadima! No more Oslo! )

6 posted on 09/13/2006 10:56:03 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: msnimje

Politics is about winning elections, not pouting and trying to get democrats elected if someone doesn't toe a rigid ideologue line.


7 posted on 09/13/2006 10:56:22 PM PDT by tkathy (Einstein: Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance.)
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To: goldstategop
If we were not in a life and death struggle with Islamofacist, I could handle the Dems controlling at least one house, to keep the Pubs on their toes. But too much is at stake for our soldiers to allow them to disgrace our military, and all they have worked to achieve in the Middle East. So I will hold my nose, and toe the party line a little while longer, even though we will never know if a conservative could win in R.I., because he never got a chance.
8 posted on 09/13/2006 10:59:51 PM PDT by HisKingdomWillAbolishSinDeath (Psalm 9:17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God.)
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To: traviskicks
I agree. Support and contribute to candidates who back our values and will actually change Washington instead of growing government and adding new programs year after year. Its one thing if the Democrats tax and spend - that's their philosophy. Its another thing if Republicans do it. It means they agree the Democrats are right but they want to get us there more slowly. Thanks but no thanks.

(No more Olmert! No more Kadima! No more Oslo! )

9 posted on 09/13/2006 11:00:30 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop

I will vote for a bad republican before I'd vote for a good dem. The reason is simple. Even a good dem adds to their drive to gain the majority. I'd hold my nose and vote for Chafee to retain the senate. Remember that the majority party sets the rules.


10 posted on 09/13/2006 11:00:39 PM PDT by umgud
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To: tkathy
Of course it is! But you can win on principle. Ronald Reagan didn't compromise on his beliefs to win votes. That's a lesson the GOP needs to take to heart. Conservatism wins wherever its tried. The sad part is we own the arena of ideas. Democrats are reduced to name calling and personal attacks. The way best way to win a mandate is to return to the principles that led the country to vote for the GOP in the first place. Its not only good policy, its good politics as well.

(No more Olmert! No more Kadima! No more Oslo! )

11 posted on 09/13/2006 11:03:49 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: HisKingdomWillAbolishSinDeath
And if we never give a real conservative a chance, how are we going to change things in Blue States? By becoming who the Democrats are? That's giving people NO reason to vote for us. Again, why vote for a phony liberal when you have a real one?

(No more Olmert! No more Kadima! No more Oslo! )

12 posted on 09/13/2006 11:05:58 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop
This is real special.

A bunch of people from other states telling people in RI how to vote.

13 posted on 09/13/2006 11:06:03 PM PDT by america-rules
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To: goldstategop
Meanwhile, in the real world, this is how things are now.

If you want to change it you have to go to Rhode Island, find a Ronald Reagan clone, support him for several years and get him elected to the Senate.
14 posted on 09/13/2006 11:08:13 PM PDT by msnimje (What part of-- "DEATH TO AMERICA" --do the Democrats not understand?)
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To: umgud
And if Chaffee keeps voting with the Democrats, how does that advance the conservative agenda? He's not a moderate - he's a LIBERAL! You people would be the first to vote to throw him out if he was a Democrat. But he has the "R" label beside his name, so he can be a collectivist and you would hold your nose and convince yourself dealing with the devil is needed to keep our majority. Fine, but how high a price would you pay to retain power? Make Chaffee happy by jettisoning tax cuts, stop naming conservative judges and pull out of Iraq? It seems to me there has to be a line drawn somewhere.

(No more Olmert! No more Kadima! No more Oslo! )

15 posted on 09/13/2006 11:10:22 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop



You don't vote, so why do you care?


16 posted on 09/13/2006 11:12:02 PM PDT by onyx (1 Billion Muslims -- IF only 10% are radical, that's still 100 Million who want to kill us.)
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To: goldstategop
46% of R.I Republicans felt supporting a LIBERAL was not good enough for the party.

In the primary? Election day voters are not the same breed as people who vote in primaries, especially mid-term primaries.
17 posted on 09/13/2006 11:12:46 PM PDT by msnimje (What part of-- "DEATH TO AMERICA" --do the Democrats not understand?)
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To: msnimje
That's what the Club For Growth tried to do. The party convinced itself a "real" Republican can't win in a liberal state so it wouldn't even try to back him to the hilt with dollars and support. We may have to put up with Chaffee for a couple of more years but becoming like the Democrats won't keep the GOP in office for decades.

(No more Olmert! No more Kadima! No more Oslo! )

18 posted on 09/13/2006 11:13:15 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: goldstategop
The party convinced itself a "real" Republican can't win in a liberal state so it wouldn't even try to back him to the hilt with dollars and support.

Actually, the voters of Rhode Island CONVINCED the Republican Party of this fact, not the other way around.
19 posted on 09/13/2006 11:15:07 PM PDT by msnimje (What part of-- "DEATH TO AMERICA" --do the Democrats not understand?)
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To: msnimje
That's true but its a voice the party should begin to listen to. Right now the GOP is adrift because the conservative movement lacks a clear leader.

(No more Olmert! No more Kadima! No more Oslo! )

20 posted on 09/13/2006 11:15:10 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: msnimje
I really dislike Chafee and wish things were different in Rhode Island but not enough to let the Dems have control of the Congress.

Correct. The Chafee debate is a nonstarter. The seat has been in the Chafee name for 30 years but there's no guarantee Lincoln Chafee will win in November.

21 posted on 09/13/2006 11:21:28 PM PDT by onyx (1 Billion Muslims -- IF only 10% are radical, that's still 100 Million who want to kill us.)
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To: goldstategop
This site promotes voting for Republicans, gaining a solid majority, and then, and ONLY then, getting rid of as many liberal to moderate GOPers.

If you want the damned Dems ( and don't tell me that there's no difference between the two major political parties! ) to hold the reins of power for the next 40 years, go vote for them and stop calling yourself a "conservative".

22 posted on 09/13/2006 11:21:57 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: umgud

BRAVO!


23 posted on 09/13/2006 11:23:14 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: goldstategop

"If GOP Stands For Nothing, It Deserves To Lose".



If GOP stands for nothing, why the hell should I trust it to stand for me? What am I supposed to do, trust them to stray away for a while, based on promises that they will eventually come back and support me? Hell, I don't think so! My momma never raised any idiots!
I never bought a used car that turned out to be a lemon, either! I don't plan to start being stupid now!


24 posted on 09/13/2006 11:25:42 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (MAY I DIE ON MY FEET IN MY SWAMP, BUAIDH NO BAS)
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To: goldstategop
And you imagine that you know and understand politics? It is to laugh!

Simply put, he who has the majority, gets to head and run the committees. And yes, it DOES matter; that matters VERY much!

25 posted on 09/13/2006 11:25:54 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: goldstategop

I feel your pain, but the Senate Republican Campaign Committee and the RNC exist for only one reason: to elect Republicans, and they don't care what those Republicans stand for...just as long as they get elected. It's baldfaced pragmatism, intended to keep their majority. Don't expect ideological purity from the SRCC or the RNC.


26 posted on 09/13/2006 11:29:17 PM PDT by My2Cents (A pirate's life for me.)
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To: goldstategop

I wish politics were that easy.


27 posted on 09/13/2006 11:30:44 PM PDT by My2Cents (A pirate's life for me.)
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To: nopardons
This site promotes voting for Republicans, gaining a solid majority, and then, and ONLY then, getting rid of as many liberal to moderate GOPers.

JimRob has said this often. I tend to agree. Frankly, voting Democrat, or allowing the Democrats to win, is, IMHO, unAmerican.

28 posted on 09/13/2006 11:33:53 PM PDT by My2Cents (A pirate's life for me.)
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To: goldstategop

Jane Chastain wants to elect rats.


29 posted on 09/13/2006 11:43:22 PM PDT by Once-Ler (The rat 06 election platform will be a promise to impeach the President if they win)
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Yes, he most certainly has said that, repeatedly. It's too bad that some posters assume things about FR and Jim's policies, which are NOT true.

You're last sentence is absolutely right. Thank goodness you posted it! :-)

30 posted on 09/13/2006 11:44:46 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: umgud; nopardons
I will vote for a bad republican before I'd vote for a good dem. The reason is simple. Even a good dem adds to their drive to gain the majority. I'd hold my nose and vote for Chafee to retain the senate. Remember that the majority party sets the rules.

That makes way too much sense!

31 posted on 09/13/2006 11:57:07 PM PDT by scott7278 (The War on Terror includes defending the homefront from the MSM.)
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To: umgud
Remember that the majority party sets the rules.

I agree with you. Those who think themselves as purist sometimes forget about this. Or about the threat of Islamofacist.

32 posted on 09/13/2006 11:57:45 PM PDT by paudio (Universal Human Rights and Multiculturalism: Liberals want to have cake and eat it too!)
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To: scott7278

Of course it does, which is why FR's perpetual doom&gloom "true conservatives" go nuts, whenever someone posts something like that. LOL


33 posted on 09/13/2006 11:59:32 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: goldstategop

This Laffey-Chaffey betrayal of Republican
and core beliefs...deeply disturbs me about
the future of the GOP.

This is a bad thing that has been done here.


34 posted on 09/14/2006 12:03:24 AM PDT by NickatNite2003
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To: nopardons

Don't get me wrong, I'm conservative to the core, and I long for another Republican in the mold of Ronald Reagan, but I can't stand the thought of our Congress reverting to Democrat hands (Reid, Pelosi, Durbin, Schumer, Kennedy, Clinton, etc.).

The thought of them being in majority power makes me absolutely shudder. Can you imagine Nancy Pelosi being third in line to the presidency? That's what a "principle vote" for a Democrat does!


35 posted on 09/14/2006 12:05:55 AM PDT by scott7278 (The War on Terror includes defending the homefront from the MSM.)
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To: msnimje

If Chafee voted for Bush 70% of the time, I'd be doing cartwheels that he's in the Senate.

Unfortunately, he votes with Bush closer to 30% of the time, and about 0% of the time on major issues. He's not even a sure vote for majority leader.

However, having the RI primary as 'proof' that Republicans stand for nothing, deserve to lose, etc. is complete nonsense that'll appeal the mastubatory 'pure' crowd, but won't convince any thinking people.


36 posted on 09/14/2006 12:06:30 AM PDT by zbigreddogz
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To: goldstategop

Laffey sounds like a rino too in a lot of ways. So the choice is between Chafee a known rino and Laffey a rino we don't know. Better the devil you know than the devil you don't know the old saying goes.


37 posted on 09/14/2006 12:07:05 AM PDT by Mogollon
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To: scott7278
You and I are in the same boat/on the same page. :-)
38 posted on 09/14/2006 12:09:13 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: Mogollon

Exactly so!


39 posted on 09/14/2006 12:10:15 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: zbigreddogz
However, having the RI primary as 'proof' that Republicans stand for nothing, deserve to lose, etc. is complete nonsense that'll appeal the mastubatory 'pure' crowd, but won't convince any thinking people.

Your right. This is a hit piece. Chastain compares Chaffee with Satan.

If Satan himself managed to get elected to office as a Republican, the Republican Party would fight to keep him there.

Better to throw your money down a rat hole than to give it to the RNC, the RSC or the RCC, or one of the leadership PACs.

What is the worse thing that could happen if Republicans lose the Senate seat in Rhode Island? It would be held by a real Democrat.

A real rat? and that's a good thing??? I don't want a real rat. A real Republican can't win in liberal RI. Only a fool like Chastain could believe voters in Rhode Island have never heard Republican principles clearly articulated in their state. Am I to believe they don't get Fox news, Rush, and the internet.

Laffey would have bombed worse than Keyes.

40 posted on 09/14/2006 12:18:28 AM PDT by Once-Ler (The rat 06 election platform will be a promise to impeach the President if they win)
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To: zbigreddogz

I was just looking over his record and I was suprised to see how often he votes "GOP" on judges including voting to invoke loture.


41 posted on 09/14/2006 12:21:42 AM PDT by msnimje (What part of-- "DEATH TO AMERICA" --do the Democrats not understand?)
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To: msnimje

Yes, he votes for cloture. That's about all he's good for. He's bad on everything else.

I guess I'd support him over Whitehouse because of that, but I really don't care who wins this race. If he were Arlen Specter, I'd be extatic that someone was moderate as that could get elected from a state as liberal as RI. But he's not even close.


42 posted on 09/14/2006 12:25:42 AM PDT by zbigreddogz
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To: zbigreddogz
And another point about Rhode Island.

The other senator is Jack Reed!!

I would much rather see two L. Chafees than two Jack Reeds.
43 posted on 09/14/2006 12:28:10 AM PDT by msnimje (What part of-- "DEATH TO AMERICA" --do the Democrats not understand?)
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To: america-rules

Maybe you didn't know this, but Chafee's actions affect people in the other states. You act as though this is something new.


44 posted on 09/14/2006 12:29:16 AM PDT by Badray (While defending the land called America, we must also be sure to preserve the Idea called America.)
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To: goldstategop

No, we don't "deserve to lose" in November just b/c a liberal won in R.I.

All politics is NATIONAL.


45 posted on 09/14/2006 12:36:36 AM PDT by wouldntbprudent (If you can: Contribute more (babies) to the next generation of God-fearing American Patriots!)
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To: msnimje

At least they can't trot out Jack Reed as the 'moderate Republican' who opposes virtually every issue that's important to the majority of the party.

On the War, on Taxes, on abortion, on school choice, on virtually everything of substance, Chafee and Reed vote the same. People often SAY that, but it's almost never true. In this case, it literally is.

I guess I'd support Chafee, I guess, just because he hasn't filibustered judges and because he's 'probably' a vote for majority leader (not for sure, he's threatened to bolt the party before, and openly encouraged Jeffords to leave), but he really is the definition of a RINO. The term RINO is thrown about FR haphazardly, and is rarely true if taken literally, and almost never true even if given it's taken as more a figure of speech. In this case, it literally is. He actually is a Republican in name ONLY. He literally holds no conservative principles. Not even one.

But yah, I'm not encouraging revolt against him or anything, like I said, I'd 'probably' vote for him, I'm just saying. I'm hardly a 'pure' conservative, I supported Specter over Toomey and I would again if the situation were the same. But Chafee really is a special case. I can't really argue with those who say there isn't any real differences.


46 posted on 09/14/2006 12:39:21 AM PDT by zbigreddogz
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To: umgud

Same here.

"Winning" is about winning a majority in Congress. That's what I mean when I say all politics is national.

The bigger and stronger the Republican majority, the more opportunity for conservative Republicans to marginalize the RINOs.

I saw this big-time in the Klintoon impeachment. We had a total RINO for a Congressman, yet his election led to a Republican majority, which in turn led to at least some action on Klintoon's crimes. Plus, it led to good men such as Henry Hyde being chair of the Judiciary Committee, etc.


47 posted on 09/14/2006 12:40:14 AM PDT by wouldntbprudent (If you can: Contribute more (babies) to the next generation of God-fearing American Patriots!)
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To: goldstategop

Chafee voting with the Rats doesn't advance the conservative agenda.

Obviously!

But Chafee's R behind his name still contributes to the Republican majority, thereby giving conservatives the opportunity to be in positions of leadership and so on.

If a conservative can't be elected, what good does it do to elect a Rat and decrease the Republican majority? How does that help advance the conservative agenda?


48 posted on 09/14/2006 12:42:34 AM PDT by wouldntbprudent (If you can: Contribute more (babies) to the next generation of God-fearing American Patriots!)
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To: nopardons

Word!


49 posted on 09/14/2006 12:43:37 AM PDT by wouldntbprudent (If you can: Contribute more (babies) to the next generation of God-fearing American Patriots!)
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To: My2Cents

Amen! Ideological "purity" has a place in theology, but not in politics. The name of the game is getting a Republican majority, then working to get the best conservative Republicans into leadership positions.


50 posted on 09/14/2006 12:45:35 AM PDT by wouldntbprudent (If you can: Contribute more (babies) to the next generation of God-fearing American Patriots!)
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