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TVs fade out as technology takes over
Stuff.co ^ | 9/14/06 | SMH

Posted on 09/14/2006 7:37:16 AM PDT by qam1

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1 posted on 09/14/2006 7:37:18 AM PDT by qam1
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To: qam1

I don't watch TV anymore because... there's nothing to watch. (We don't have cable.)


2 posted on 09/14/2006 7:39:02 AM PDT by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com†|Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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3 posted on 09/14/2006 7:39:35 AM PDT by qam1 (There's been a huge party. All plates and the bottles are empty, all that's left is the bill to pay)
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To: qam1

I read Infinite Jest by David Foster Wallace back in 1995 or so and it poked fun at the demise of TV...and it turned out to be a prophetic comedy.


4 posted on 09/14/2006 7:39:38 AM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: qam1

PCs and soon Mobile phones are starting to function as TVs. Who would have thought that with the advent of the Internet, the telephone is now a much more important communications device then the new fangled TV.


5 posted on 09/14/2006 7:39:53 AM PDT by Borges
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To: sionnsar
I don't watch TV anymore because... there's nothing to watch. (We don't have cable.)

Even with cable, there's still nothing to watch.

6 posted on 09/14/2006 7:40:46 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: sionnsar

Well, we have no TV and no cell phone, so I guess our choice is easy. (We DO watch DVDs on the computer screen, but that is hardly mandatory for our inner happiness.)


7 posted on 09/14/2006 7:41:40 AM PDT by sittnick (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: dfwgator

Old movies on cold weekends.


8 posted on 09/14/2006 7:42:31 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (BTUs are my Beat.)
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To: qam1

TV isn't dead. But "television" is.

My "TV" has a receiver but most of the time, even when I watch something that is "broadcast" (air or cable), I am using the tuner/remote from my DVR or CVR.

So my "TV" doesn't need a receiver of its own (my DVR will even let me record one program while watching another).

Which brings up its other role, as a monitor to display DVDs, laserdiscs, videotapes (VHS and 8mm)...

A lot of people are watching tv shows/concerts/clips on YouTube and other multimedia website. Is that "tv" or "PC"?

The distribution method doesn't really matter when you examine what is being watched.

If someone watches The Sopranos or 24 on DVD (from Netflix or Best Buy) instead of on Fox (live or Tivo), are they still "watching tv"?


9 posted on 09/14/2006 7:43:29 AM PDT by weegee (Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
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To: qam1

The revolution will not be televised!


10 posted on 09/14/2006 7:45:13 AM PDT by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: qam1

I have always been a TV junkie and will always be one regardless of what's on.


11 posted on 09/14/2006 7:45:15 AM PDT by Dixie Yooper (Ephesians 6:11)
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To: dfwgator; sionnsar
No MNF for me this year (dang!).

With broadband, you can downstream shows, or highlights as required. World Cup soccer was a great example of that: downstreamed the SUN UK audio, some of us caught matches on ESPN 360 online, Univision was broadcasting on TV.

In the UK, they offered all matches via broadband!

12 posted on 09/14/2006 7:46:28 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: sionnsar

Well, let's see. Cell phones can connect to the Internet and download streaming audio and video, including motion pictures and broadcast television programs. Computers can make telephone calls using VoIP and can certainly download and play movies and programs on any size screen. Televisions can be hooked up to WebTV and some cable/satellite providers provide two-way service, and cable companies are strating to offer telephone service.

So, my PC can mimic a phone and a TV in any size (Blackberry and Palm to giant Plasma), a phone can mimic a small computer or portable TV, and a TV can provide some of the features of a phone or computer. I guess the convergence is happening, and the question is almost moot.


13 posted on 09/14/2006 7:46:51 AM PDT by sittnick (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: P-40

It was inevitable that tv's place would diminish.

It isn't "gone" and won't completely "go away".

With digital broadcasts, your viewing habits will be capable of being monitored (meaning targeted SPAM, er advertising, and even "live feedback" on gameshows, "top of the pops" video shows, political polls, etc.). Your TV will BECOME a computer.

People are watching tv on their phones now.

The same content is available through different sources.

The GOOD thing is that the "traditional" media schedule will become a thing of the past. No more "news block", junk/rerun block, and MAYBE the trend towards informercials (even on the major network affiliates after midnight) will end.


14 posted on 09/14/2006 7:48:32 AM PDT by weegee (Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
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To: qam1
No surprise here. I got rid of my TV in March of 1995.

I have a PC, And a Pocket PC/phone.

15 posted on 09/14/2006 7:50:38 AM PDT by MrEdd (The easiest way to LIE with statistics is to use the average instead of the Median.)
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To: qam1
>If you had to choose between your PC, TV set or mobile phone, which one would you pick?

Hey. GUYS! This is called
a "girl." They talk, like TVs,
but they're warmer and

even when they're not
plugged in you can often get
entertaining shows . . .

16 posted on 09/14/2006 7:50:39 AM PDT by theFIRMbss
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Without a doubt, my PC. Just got a new laptop yesterday...17" screen WOOHOO!!!


17 posted on 09/14/2006 7:50:44 AM PDT by Hildy
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To: weegee
Your TV will BECOME a computer

That was the way it became in the book. You basically just ordered whatever content you wanted and it was delivered by modem.
18 posted on 09/14/2006 7:50:49 AM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: P-40

I read that book... it was excellent. Didn't care for his other stuff, but 'A Supposedly Fun Thing I'll Never Do Again' wasn't bad.

I don't watch TV either. If I had to choose, I'd pick the computer. Don't use a cellphone either; I have one for emergencies, but I don't use it.


19 posted on 09/14/2006 7:51:06 AM PDT by Venerable Bede (ConservativeUnderground.com... come join the party!)
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To: dfwgator
Even with cable, there's still nothing to watch.

What about Sponge Bob?

:-)

20 posted on 09/14/2006 7:51:41 AM PDT by LasVegasMac (Islam........not fit for human consumption.)
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To: LasVegasMac

LOL, that and the Fairly Oddparents are the only two shows I get to watch these days.


21 posted on 09/14/2006 7:52:49 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: qam1
The day of the so-called programmed broadcast with fixed start and stop times for programming will likely be disappearing by 2015, with good reason: by then the vast majority of Americans will get at least 5 megabits/per second download broadband Internet access, and many Americans will get 100 megabits/second download (or even faster!) broadband Internet access using fiber-optic connections.

At those speeds, instead of waiting for a broadcast you will program a home media server machine to automatically download all your favorite programs at 100 mbps or higher broadband speeds maybe twice a day; that way, when you turn on your TV set you will automatically get a list of programs ready to watch anytime you want.

22 posted on 09/14/2006 7:54:06 AM PDT by RayChuang88
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To: sittnick

Do you have a PC?


23 posted on 09/14/2006 7:55:00 AM PDT by Old Professer (The critic writes with rapier pen, dips it twice, and writes again.)
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To: Venerable Bede
I read that book... it was excellent.

Odd how much of what was presented as comedy in the book is now accepted as...normal. I guess we are not advertising on police cars yet but everything else has a corporate logo...and I guess we are not facing wheelchair-bound Canadian terrorists yet either. Perhaps 2007 will be named after a corporation...
24 posted on 09/14/2006 7:55:25 AM PDT by P-40 (Al Qaeda was working in Iraq. They were just undocumented.)
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To: qam1

Computer/PC/Laptop is the first choice for me (along with the requisite Internet connection).

Regards,
Star Traveler


25 posted on 09/14/2006 7:56:18 AM PDT by Star Traveler
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To: sittnick

I don't understand why people get such gadget ladden phones.

If they would adopt a slightly larger piece of equipment, they could have a mini-computer capable of even playing back a DVD/CD (think of something the size of a portable DVD player, about 1/3 the size of a laptop).

You'd get a "real" keyboard, a "real" video screen, CD access (for software, pictures, music) and COULD STILL store "i-pod" like music on it. DVD/CD/MP3/phone (with earphone)/radio wireless device.

But it wouldn't fit in your pocket. (unless you got bigger/deeper pockets or put it in the breast pocket of your jacket). Then again, Sony originally developed a pocket sized radio by making their own shirts with a slightly bigger pocket...


26 posted on 09/14/2006 7:57:08 AM PDT by weegee (Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
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To: Star Traveler

A computer without the internet wouldn't rank nearly as highly for these plugged in people.


28 posted on 09/14/2006 7:57:57 AM PDT by weegee (Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
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To: qam1

Going to have to go with the PC on this one. Add some components to a PC, and you'll have all the important funtionality of a phone or TV. I've yet to see a cell phone or TV that has the processing power to function as a full-time PC.


29 posted on 09/14/2006 7:58:12 AM PDT by Ex-Dem
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To: theFIRMbss

LOL at # 16. However, without television having offered up some worthwhile moments, I wouldn't be able to smile at the parallels with the classic William Shatner / SNL "Get a Life" skit.


30 posted on 09/14/2006 7:59:40 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Liberals are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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To: Hildy

Just wondering what kind of a laptop you chose. I am in the market for a new one, with a 17" screen.


31 posted on 09/14/2006 7:59:56 AM PDT by Maceman (This is America. Why must we press "1" for English?)
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To: sittnick
Well, we have no TV and no cell phone,

Ditto

32 posted on 09/14/2006 8:00:24 AM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: LasVegasMac

Love Spongebob and Fairly Oddparents (although the newer Spongebob shows kinda suck and aren't as funny as the older ones.)


33 posted on 09/14/2006 8:00:41 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (In loving memory of those lost on 9/11)
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To: RayChuang88

As it is, many "new" broadcasts are repeated even within the first week of airing. The shared experience of "everyone" watching the same thing at the same time seems to only hold for sports, award shows, election results, and tragedies anymore.


34 posted on 09/14/2006 8:00:56 AM PDT by weegee (Remember "Remember the Maine"? Well in the current war "Remember the Baby Milk Factory")
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To: qam1
Honestly, if posed with this question how could the answer be anything other than a PC? Here's my point. Broadband is increasing rapidly. I personally have a 4mb DSL connection and I hear that 10mb connections will soon be the norm. With a PC you have access to all the information of the world, you can communicate via e-mail, use video if you wish, and you can talk back with a community of people (FR). Soon video will be streaming like Internet radio so you'll be able to get sporting events anywhere, anytime. You will be able to download any movie ever made and play it just as soon as you finish receiving it. All this...compared to a static TV receiver???? Why would anyone hypothetically pick a TV?
35 posted on 09/14/2006 8:01:17 AM PDT by Obadiah
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The rapid pace of technological and social change has my head spinning...I'm 54.


36 posted on 09/14/2006 8:01:51 AM PDT by aligncare (In warfare, the only moral stance is to win)
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To: reagan_fanatic
Love Spongebob and Fairly Oddparents (although the newer Spongebob shows kinda suck and aren't as funny as the older ones.)

Same in our house! And, why is that with Spongebob? I simply cannot figure this out.

37 posted on 09/14/2006 8:02:32 AM PDT by Obadiah
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To: Incorrigible
The revolution will not be televised!

On the contrary, it will be live, and then we'll have Greta, Shep, and Hannity on in the evening to talk about it.
38 posted on 09/14/2006 8:02:48 AM PDT by July 4th (A vacant lot cancelled out my vote for Bush.)
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To: Maceman
Check out Motleygirl's thread: COMPUTER HELP-Looking to buy a laptop computer. (VANITY)

Have you checked this one: VANITY: Any (constructive) Advice on a new laptop -- j/k

39 posted on 09/14/2006 8:02:56 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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You can take my computer when you can pry it from my cold, dead hands.


40 posted on 09/14/2006 8:04:52 AM PDT by kevkrom (War is not about proportionality. Knitting is about proportionality. War is about winning.)
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To: dfwgator

I thought I was the only one subjected to so much Sponge Bob and Fairly Odd Parents. I hate to say it, but sometimes I find myself mildly entertained.

I'm not a big fan of the commercials, so we try to record them so my daughter can skip them. She has become quite the commercial skipper with the commercial skip button on our DVD-RAM recorder.


41 posted on 09/14/2006 8:05:15 AM PDT by Codeflier (Implement Loser Pays)
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To: stainlessbanner
...No MNF for me this year (dang!). ...

You're not missing much. ESPN has plopped a big 'ol scoreboard thingy right smack dab in the middle of the screen.

Irritating as hell. I stopped watching.

42 posted on 09/14/2006 8:05:40 AM PDT by FReepaholic (This tagline could indicate global warming.)
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To: Codeflier

I laugh even more at those shows than my kids do, it's funnier than most of the so-called comedies they show on the adult networks nowadays.


43 posted on 09/14/2006 8:06:25 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: FReepaholic
I'm not an ESPN fan either. Don't like their format nor sportscasters very much.

I will not pay for their TicketPass (?) web service either, so I'm stuck with highlights on the web, news channel, or a newspaper (gasp!)

44 posted on 09/14/2006 8:09:23 AM PDT by stainlessbanner
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To: qam1

I chose two: PC and Cell Phone.


45 posted on 09/14/2006 8:10:49 AM PDT by desherwood7
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To: dfwgator
Even with cable, there's still nothing to watch.

Actually, I would tend to disagree... competition has forced a lot of networks to become creative. HBO has some of the best series on TV: The Sopranos, Deadwood, and Big Love have been my favorite shows over the past few years.

Granted, with 900 channels running 24 hours a day, there is a lot of fluffy crap, but there are certainly more good shows than there were 10 years ago.

46 posted on 09/14/2006 8:13:01 AM PDT by Lunatic Fringe (Man Law: You Poke It, You Own It)
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To: Obadiah
why is that with Spongebob? I simply cannot figure this out.

I'm not sure - I did notice that Spongebob's voice has changed quite a bit (it's not as high and nasally as it used to be) and he's drawn differently now :(
47 posted on 09/14/2006 8:13:19 AM PDT by reagan_fanatic (In loving memory of those lost on 9/11)
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To: dfwgator
Even with cable, there's still nothing to watch.

Yes, but there's a lot more of it.

48 posted on 09/14/2006 8:16:23 AM PDT by NonZeroSum
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To: Lunatic Fringe

I don't enjoy cursing in programs...does HBO have anything for me to watch?

...and don't suggest some kiddie show. I'm an adult.


49 posted on 09/14/2006 8:19:59 AM PDT by aligncare (In warfare, the only moral stance is to win)
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To: reagan_fanatic

Kinda? The new Spongebob sucks hosewater. I wonder what happened. We still watch it when it's on, but we don't tivo it anymore.


50 posted on 09/14/2006 8:22:51 AM PDT by Eepsy (Meet EWTN's Raymond Arroyo in Cleveland 10-27-06, Ask me how!)
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