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Oil's slide could push gas to $1.15
News & Observer ^ | 9/14/2006 | Kevin G. Hall

Posted on 09/14/2006 9:28:58 AM PDT by Uncledave

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To: thackney

Because they were awash in dot com revenue? There was a proposed healthy increase via the elimination of the renters credit that year (530 million) but I don't know if it went through. Either way, it's only particularly germane if the budget is close to or in the red. If we're sitting on a couple billion overage, it won't matter, but if there's a simultaneous chunk taken out via softening real estate, or wealth flight after passage of some type of Rheiner idiocy, then it will get them going.

(Especially since gasoline is evil dirty nasty stuff foisted upon us by greedy corporations...) /sarc


81 posted on 09/14/2006 11:46:51 AM PDT by Axenolith (Got Au? Ag?)
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To: tx_eggman

If "almost all" gets to be 58%, then yea, I'll let you slide... :-)


82 posted on 09/14/2006 11:47:55 AM PDT by Axenolith (Got Au? Ag?)
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To: thackney
I only took 1/2 of Virginia, figuring that N. VA was worth about 1/2 now (though it sure as heck wouldn't have been when I was there).

All in all, we're probably +- 2 or 3%. Works for me...

I'll still buy you a beer... :-)

83 posted on 09/14/2006 11:52:29 AM PDT by Axenolith (Got Au? Ag?)
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To: Uncledave

Two states, Iowa and Missouri, have reports of $1.99/gal today...


84 posted on 09/14/2006 11:53:24 AM PDT by RockinRight (She rocks my world, and I rock her world.)
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To: RockinRight
Two states, Iowa and Missouri, have reports of $1.99/gal today...

Think it'll be Katie's lead story tonight on CBS News?

85 posted on 09/14/2006 12:04:10 PM PDT by LikeLight
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To: dirtboy
I hope the price settles in about $45-50/bbl. A price that people can afford, but also a price that encourages more exploration and more alternative fuels development.

That's roughly where I suspect it will end up. Worldwide demand is not going to disappear overnight.

86 posted on 09/14/2006 12:05:38 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Going partly violently to the thing 24-7!)
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To: Uncle Hal
One thing is for sure...Democrats will be deeply saddened if it comes to pass.

They already are. Talked to a lib friend in Florida today, after exchanging info on local gas prices, his comment was "oh well, they'll be back up to $5 after the election"

I offered to send him a case of tin foil to protect him from Karl Rove's signals.

87 posted on 09/14/2006 12:09:53 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s...you weren't really there.)
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To: Axenolith
That only explains California. I think given the public's recent experience with high gasoline prices, a move to increase taxes with increasing prices, even if prices were low or falling at the time, would actually bring back tar and feathers. (I can only dream)
88 posted on 09/14/2006 12:11:19 PM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: tx_eggman; edcoil

Furthermore, if gasoline prices really do plunge, gas tax revenues should go up as people become more freewheeling in their use of gasoline. The states can then finally do some catch-up on their backlog of road projects and maintenance.


89 posted on 09/14/2006 12:11:49 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Going partly violently to the thing 24-7!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks; Axenolith; edcoil
Furthermore, if gasoline prices really do plunge, gas tax revenues should go up as people become more freewheeling in their use of gasoline. The states can then finally do some catch-up on their backlog of road projects and maintenance.

Keep away from logic and facts with this crew, there are too many nits for them to pick when you run down that road ...

Seems that the gov'ment won't allow gas prices to drop, there's too much tax money at stake ... or they're causing them to drop so they can win the election ... I guess I just too easily confused [/sarcasm off

90 posted on 09/14/2006 12:19:30 PM PDT by tx_eggman (The people who work for me wear the dog collars. It's good to be king. - ccmay)
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To: tx_eggman

There are a lot of people all over the country discussing the impact on this and the realty is that it will affect each person or state differently - so - a combination of all of what you noted could be true.


91 posted on 09/14/2006 12:21:59 PM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: edcoil; Tolerance Sucks Rocks; Axenolith
the realty is that it will affect each person or state differently - so - a combination of all of what you noted could be true.

Sounds like the conclusion from a research paper written to prove that global warming is caused by human activity .. nice.

92 posted on 09/14/2006 12:31:26 PM PDT by tx_eggman (The people who work for me wear the dog collars. It's good to be king. - ccmay)
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To: tx_eggman

Global warming is caused by bad beer.


93 posted on 09/14/2006 12:32:42 PM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: edcoil
Global warming is caused by bad beer.

Only to the extent that it raises the temperature of the water in the lake when it finishes its course.

Based on solid scientific evidence I have posted on this forum

as recently as yesterday The Proof is in the Link

I can state, without fear of contradiction, that the true root cause of Global Warming® is the demise of the world's pirate population.

94 posted on 09/14/2006 12:43:50 PM PDT by tx_eggman (The people who work for me wear the dog collars. It's good to be king. - ccmay)
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To: Uncledave

Me thinks OPEC was getting nervous about providing too much motivation for competitors.


95 posted on 09/14/2006 12:56:40 PM PDT by TheDon (The Democratic Party is the party of TREASON!)
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To: ChildOfThe60s
Talked to a lib friend in Florida today, after exchanging info on local gas prices, his comment was "oh well, they'll be back up to $5 after the election"

Show him this handy chart, with source link ( hattip:SAJ ):

--So, of course gas is always gets cheaper running up to a November election...

Sorry, friend, that's just not the case.

 —— History of buying Nov Unleaded Gas from 09-07 to 10-31, contract years 1985-2005

   start    start    --interim--   end      end    -- results --    ---- contract highs/lows ---- 
    date    price    high    low   date    price   1-yr      cum    high    date     low     date

1985-09-06  72.54   83.10   71.51  10-31   82.70   10.01    10.01   83.10 85-10-31   68.90 85-06-17  
1986-09-05  45.50   45.50   37.00  10-31   40.61   -5.04     4.97   45.70 86-09-05   30.00 86-07-28  
1987-09-04  49.53   54.75   49.00  10-30   54.21    4.53     9.50   56.40 87-07-16   46.70 87-02-25  
1988-09-06  40.99   54.40   38.95  10-31   50.24    9.10    18.60   54.40 88-10-26   38.95 88-10-05  
1989-09-06  53.48   60.50   52.00  10-31   52.47   -1.16    17.44   60.50 89-09-21   38.85 88-11-18  

1990-09-06  88.68  101.70   75.40  10-31   96.44    7.61    25.05  101.70 90-09-28   47.45 89-09-14  
1991-09-06  59.86   68.90   59.00  10-31   66.86    6.85    31.90   83.30 90-10-09   47.80 91-02-19  
1992-09-04  58.80   62.80   56.75  10-30   62.18    3.23    35.13   62.80 92-10-30   52.85 92-02-24  
1993-09-03  50.84   53.80   46.80  10-29   47.30   -3.69    31.44   58.85 93-03-04   46.80 93-10-29  
1994-09-06  48.04   60.10   43.80  10-31   57.08    8.89    40.33   60.10 94-10-31   42.22 94-03-28  

1995-09-06  53.41   54.45   48.70  10-31   50.83   -2.73    37.60   56.40 95-05-01   48.70 95-10-06  
1996-09-06  63.47   71.75   59.40  10-31   66.56    2.94    40.54   71.75 96-10-28   48.85 96-02-09  
1997-09-05  57.47   64.00   55.40  10-31   60.22    2.60    43.14   64.00 97-10-03   53.40 97-06-20  
1998-09-04  42.66   47.80   41.65  10-30   45.17    2.36    45.50   53.90 98-01-29   40.05 98-08-27  
1999-09-03  63.01   70.35   58.30  10-29   63.93    0.77    46.27   70.35 99-09-29   38.80 99-02-17  

2000-09-06  94.78  101.00   82.10  10-31   93.60   -1.33    44.94  101.00 00-10-12   60.15 00-01-11  
2001-09-06  76.82   84.00   54.60  10-31   55.23  -21.74    23.20   84.00 01-09-14   54.60 01-10-31  
2002-09-06  78.11   90.50   76.40  10-31   86.35    8.09    31.29   90.50 02-10-31   56.69 02-01-18  
2003-09-05  80.82   90.45   73.55  10-31   80.34   -0.63    30.66   90.45 03-10-10   68.30 03-04-29  
2004-09-03 119.41  144.50  115.10  10-29  131.46   11.90    42.56  144.50 04-10-22   80.83 04-01-15  

2005-09-06 194.33  221.00  150.50  10-31  152.61  -41.87     0.69  221.00 05-09-29  110.75 05-02-07  

                            avg net result ==>>  +  0.03
Historical price table courtesy of, and copyright 2004-2006 by, Time & Timing.
47 posted on 09/13/2006 3:01:22 PM EDT by SAJ

96 posted on 09/14/2006 12:59:47 PM PDT by backhoe
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To: tx_eggman

As equally of value is that a lack of slavery is the cause...


97 posted on 09/14/2006 3:56:37 PM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: tx_eggman

As equally of value is that a lack of slavery is the cause...


98 posted on 09/14/2006 3:56:42 PM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: edcoil

It isn't the bad beer that produces the methane causing GW, it's the greasy munchie food that bad beer drinkers eat.

Still, this means we could go back one step further and pin it on Busch and Miller, since they brew pure crap.

Remember, friends don't let friends drink light beer.


99 posted on 09/14/2006 4:12:13 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s...you weren't really there.)
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