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H.R. 5825: No surveillance until after an attack and not without FISA’s say-so
wizbangblog ^ | September 13, 2006 | Kim Priestap

Posted on 09/14/2006 11:14:05 AM PDT by lowbridge

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To: lowbridge
However, one bill sponsored by Republican Congresswoman Heather Wilson of New Mexico would require that we be hit with a terrorist attack before we are legally allowed to surveil.

We've already been attacked. Several times. 1993, later in the 90s in Africa, the USS Cole in Yemen, and of course the WTC, Pentagon, and whatever target the Militia of Flight 93 protected on 9-11-01.

41 posted on 09/14/2006 12:27:33 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: TexasAggie65

I don't know but if she is that was a wasted appointment.


42 posted on 09/14/2006 12:41:19 PM PDT by GW and Twins Pawpaw (Sheepdog for Five [My grandkids are way more important than any lefty's feelings!])
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To: Dead Corpse

I see the BS over Everything leader is here.


43 posted on 09/14/2006 12:44:08 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: lowbridge

How fast will this disappear when people start suing the govt. and particular members of congress if their families die in attacks that could have been prevented.


44 posted on 09/14/2006 12:45:53 PM PDT by hershey
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To: ncountylee

I resent you trying to move in front of Illinois great brainstem, Dumb Dick Durbin.


45 posted on 09/14/2006 12:46:08 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
Well yeah, now that you are here.

Nice personal attack... What do you do for an encore? Or is that kind of thing only legal in Mexico?

46 posted on 09/14/2006 12:47:03 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (Quam terribilis est haec hora)
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To: lowbridge

Are these people Stuck on INSANITY!?

These are the "not in the real world" types who have no clue how bloody and JUST PLAIN UGLY the rest of the world is.


they are delusional if they think this is a POLICE issue. This is a blood and bullets issue. Who has more bullets in the enemy. So far they democrats and the RINOs want to ensure we are on the loosing end.


47 posted on 09/14/2006 12:48:55 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: beethovenfan

People vote for'em. Says something about the people voting, I guess...


48 posted on 09/14/2006 12:50:22 PM PDT by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: lowbridge
Whatever happened to the day when Republicans stood for defending America?

getting closer and closer to a one-party system.

49 posted on 09/14/2006 1:34:10 PM PDT by HeartlandOfAmerica ('... we want the human rights officers, we want the Americans to come back' - Abu Ghraib Prisoner)
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To: Dead Corpse

Well yeah, now that you are here.

Gee I would have expected something at least on the 8th grade level not the Third. Looks like I gave you too much credit.


50 posted on 09/14/2006 1:38:27 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
And continuing with your personal attacks.

Nice. And yo uexpect people to take you seriously? LOL...

51 posted on 09/14/2006 1:44:41 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (Quam terribilis est haec hora)
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To: Dead Corpse

There are no shortage of responses to my comments. Those whom I wish to take me serious do so. You I don't care about.


52 posted on 09/14/2006 1:46:24 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
Ah... good. Then you'll stop trolling me? That'll be nice.

Note: I didn't ping you to this thread. I posted one comment, and... just like throwing a rock at a pack of dogs, the one that yelps is the one you hit.

So far, instead of refuting my one statement, you started out with a personal attack and have continued with the personal attacks.

Kinda makes you my own private sock puppet troll doesn't it?

53 posted on 09/14/2006 1:50:45 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (Quam terribilis est haec hora)
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To: Dead Corpse

You post an insult then get insulted when someone calls you on it. Typical.

Wahhhh, mommy justshutupandtakeit is being mean to me.


54 posted on 09/14/2006 2:02:16 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: caisson71

I can take this crap from the Democrats, they are what they are, but when a Republican says this, I really want to .... I won't say, but I think you get the picture. America is in a war for its very survival. Thank God for President Bush.


55 posted on 09/14/2006 3:23:06 PM PDT by maxwellp
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To: maxwellp

Amen to that. For those of us who have sons and daughters in uniform, this is another slap in the face.


56 posted on 09/14/2006 6:56:12 PM PDT by caisson71
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To: justshutupandtakeit
Insult? Like I said, "throw a rock"...

I already know you are no conservative. Just another liberal infiltrator here to stir the pot. How you've managed to last this long without being banned is entirely beyond me.

Now, either show how this Rep's purposal has any relation whatsoever to conservative principles or justshutupandtakeit.

57 posted on 09/15/2006 6:27:33 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Quam terribilis est haec hora)
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To: Dead Corpse

It is pretty simple why I have not been banned I have printed nothing contrary to the beliefs of the Founder of this Forum. Attacking moronic idiocies and there spreaders thereof certainly does not cause Jim any grief.

Why don't you ask him to ban me since you are so disturbed by my "attacks" on "conservative principles"?

It is pretty ironic to listen to your whining about MY lack of conservativism when YOU are the one who has attacked our greatest judicial minds calling Justice Marshall a senile old man for his ruling in Barron v Baltimore. And anyone with the belief that our nation was given a Consolidated National Government capable of overriding all state laws by our Founders is not only not conservative but also deluded.

And spare us the Innocent Act when anyone can see your initial post was both insulting and a provocation. Rather than addressing the issue of the thread you preferred to try and start a brawl. "Fight? Not lil ole innocent me."


58 posted on 09/15/2006 6:43:58 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
I have printed nothing contrary to the beliefs of the Founder of this Forum.

Accept of course for your anti-conservative stances on quite a few core topics... But I suppose you'd be inclined to over look that.

Ask him to ban you? Isn't that his decision? If he wants you gone, that's his choice.

Marshall was senile and in his Barron ruling proved his anti-Republican sentiment. Over ridging all State laws? Only where the power was specifically defined, as I stated. But feel free to continue to lie about my positions. Asking you not to hasn't slowed you down any.

So, I take it that means you STILL aren't going to address the topic of this thread, still aren't going to prove in any way shape or form how this idiot Representitives legislation has a damn thing to do with conservative principles or logic, and you only want to continue to be my sock puppet...

You "Party over Principle" types are the Number 1 thing wrong with this country.

59 posted on 09/15/2006 6:59:52 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Quam terribilis est haec hora)
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To: Dead Corpse

Clearly Jim needs your expertise to ban such a disruptive troll as me since he can't read everything and you have SO much evidence of my treachery and lack of principle to show him.

Your problem comes from the fact that you confuse Conservativism with Abject Stupidity. Hence when one is not stupid enough to agree with you he MUST not be a conservative.

Of course, to nimrods like your the number one problem with this country is not the Party of Treason but is the Republicans. That is reaaaly "conservativism."


60 posted on 09/15/2006 7:05:21 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (If you believe ANYTHING in the Treason Media you are a fool.)
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