Posted on 09/15/2006 10:41:04 AM PDT by Sergeant Tim
LOL!
Yep. ;)
The problem here, had some of you actually viewed their film ... beyond the easy, slam dunk crapola ... there are some valid issues raised.
I object to the assumption that by validating some small portion of the film somehow I'm a liberal...or worse
If our boys in Washington have nothing to hide ... then give these pimple faced morons what they want and prove once and for all this wasn't an inside job. Until then ... I applaud what they are doing.
Do you, or any of the so called conspericy "experts' Have any idea at what temperature steel starts loosing its strength? I am not asking at what temp. it melts.
It's like those idiots who think that the IRA bombing campaign of Britain was really carried out by the British secret service - idiots!
It's ALREADY BEEN PROVEN it isn't an "inside job". Only an idiot would think otherwise.
Do you consider the possibility that Saddam did 9-11 nutty as well?
...........sigh
I they released any and all video, the conspiracy theorists would simply say the video has been altered.
>>But there are some really serious questions...<<
Could you share some of them?
Absolutely, but what is more disturbing is the PRESS COVERAGE of these Whackos. This kind of sickness should be given zero coverage by the MSM. To think our own Government would attack us in such a manner and not one of the conspirators has "leaked" during a period where leakers are coming out of the woodwork, shows you how nuts this is. Can anyone imagine how many people would have to be involved in this plot, planting the charges, piloting the planes, NORAD, USAF, whisking the airline passengers away to Area 51 while remote planes flew into the targets, triggering the explosives, firing the missile into the pentagon, etc.,etc.,etc.? Truly mindboggling - this conspiracy is covered very well on Errhead Amerika where one will find the "true believers" (they call themselves Truth Seekers, and Truth To Power crowd). Even if it is insane, the sane will grab onto it because is satisfies their insatiable need to HATE THE BUSH CRIME FAMILY!!
Hey guys, this Oliver North/Osama Bin Laden story is NOT accurate, but there was an exchange like this at the 1987 Oliver North testimony.
The Senate Committee staffer questioning North was named like "James Shields" or something like that, so it was NOT Al Gore asking the question, but a Committee staffer.
They were asking North about an elaborate security system that was placed in his home, and North explained that there had been a "Death Sentence" issued for him and his family by noted terrorist Abu Nidal (not Bin Laden) who at the time was associated mainly with the Palestinians and Libyans. Nidal had in fact issued statements offering a "bounty" on the head of North and his family for North's role in anti-terror operations in the recent past. North went on to say that he'd meet Abu Nidal "one on one" anywhere in the world, but he had to take precautions because of his family.
Ironically, when Abu Nidal became a "hot potato" even among terrorist-friendly nations, he found refuge in...guess where...IRAQ!!! He was a "guest" of Saddam Hussein for many years before he mysteriously "killed himself" just before the start of the Iraq War...he died from multiple gunshots to the head...and it was ruled a suicide...LOL
Rumor has it that Saddam was trying to make a "friendly gesture" to the US that he was not involved with terrorists prior to the War, and he had Nidal murdered in a bizarre effort to win back our trust.
Of course our friends in the media NEVER mention that Abu Nidal was given sanctuary in Iraq for years....just as Zarqawi was after the invasion of Afghanistan.
Sigh all you want. There is not one shred of proof otherwise. Do you really think that a conspiracy that would have to involve hundreds of people could be kept under wraps?
I don't like to interrupt my enemy when they are making fools of themselves.
Actually there is some guy/website that says the planes were just Holograms - but it was actually missles that hit the buildings.
They are a bunch of maggots infecting the body politic. Those who applaud them aren't much better.
That was excellent. Echoes a lot of what I have said over the years and much, much more.
I did watch the "Loose Change" documentary and I found nothing but lies...and several minor ,technically factual, statements which offered nothing in the way of a probative, causal relationship between the data provided and the implication that 9/11 was an inside job.
Stating the temp at which steel melts is a factual statment. Stating the temp at which jet fuel burns is a factual statement. Stating that the temp of burning jet fuel was lower than the temp at which steel melts is a factual statement. Taken alone, all of those were factually correct statements....BUT they ignore the reality of the situation, which is that the steel did NOT need to melt in order to impact the structural integrity of the building, thus causing its collapse. So they imply that the building could not have fallen because the steel could not have melted completely...totally ignoring the FACT that the temp at which the structural integrity of the building would be impacted was WELL below the temp of burning jet fuel.
And the documentary is littered with examples just like that where they take technically correct statements or facts and apply them to scenarios which have little or no real relationship to their desired implication.
It's called Occam's razor. In the case of TWA 800, the official government theory is more convoluted than the missile theory. In the case of 9/11, the conspiracy theorists are vastly more convoluted than the official version we all saw on TV.
Adjectives, I believe.
I took a look at your link. Here’s where it I think it fails. The notion that the government in general, and Bush specifically, was in any way involved with the murder of 3000 people, for some reason or another, is beyond ridiculous on its face.
Anybody that seriously maintains the notion that explosive charges were smuggled into the upper floors of the WTC towers to await the arrival of planes, or any other of their assertions, is delusional in the extreme. A point by point rebuttal that respectfully claims that “despite its many errors, the film raises questions that urgently demand serious scrutiny” is useless. I’ve read other critiques that are much more interesting and valuable because they contain what this one lacks: utter distain and mocking ridicule for the morons that put the thing together.
These “Loose Change” people are providing no service, other than entertainment for those that enjoy watching others make asses of themselves. The theories they promulgate exist solely as a result of their Bush derangement and twisted fantasy life, not from any facts or evidence. They need to be laughed at and mocked, not debated. It’s obvious that facts don’t matter to them anyway, and no amount of dispassionate debunking will turn them.
I've actually reviewed the film. What part of what they say is the truth? Or should I instead ask, have you actually reviewed the evidence that takes each and everyone of their assertions apart? If you believe what they say is valid, please keep reading.
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