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How Bad Is the Senate Intelligence Report? Very bad. (Stephen Hayes)
The Weekly Standard ^ | 9-25-06 | Stephen Hayes

Posted on 09/16/2006 5:54:46 AM PDT by ikez78

According to a report released September 8 by the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, Saddam Hussein "was resistant to cooperating with al Qaeda or any other Islamist groups." It's an odd claim. Saddam Hussein's regime has a long and well-documented history of cooperating with Islamists, including al Qaeda and its affiliates.

As early as 1982, the Iraqi regime was openly supporting, training, and funding the Syrian Muslim Brotherhood, an Islamist organization opposed to the secular regime of Hafez Assad. For years, Saddam Hussein cultivated warm relations with Hassan al-Turabi, the Islamist who was the de facto leader of the Sudanese terrorist state, and a man Bill Clinton described as "a buddy of [Osama] bin Laden's."

Throughout the 1990s, the Iraqi regime hosted Popular Islamic Conferences in Baghdad, gatherings modeled after conferences Turabi hosted in Khartoum. Mark Fineman, a reporter for the Los Angeles Times, attended one of the conferences and filed a story about his experience on January 26, 1993. "There are delegates from the most committed Islamic organizations on Earth," he wrote. "Afghan mujahedeen (holy warriors), Palestinian militants, Sudanese fundamentalists, the Islamic Brotherhood and Pakistan's Party of Islam." Newsweek's Christopher Dickey attended the same conference and wrote about it in 2002. "Islamic radicals from all over the Middle East, Africa, and Asia converged on Baghdad," he wrote, "to show their solidarity with Iraq in the face of American aggression. . . . Every time I hear diplomats and politicians, whether in Washington or the capitals of Europe, declare that Saddam Hussein is a 'secular Baathist ideologue' who has nothing to do with Islamists or terrorist calls to jihad, I think of that afternoon and I wonder what they're talking about. If that was not a fledgling Qaeda itself at the Rashid convention, it sure was Saddam's version of it."

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: congressmorons; iraqalqaeda; saddamalqaeda; saddamterror; senatecoverup; senateliars; senatemorons; senateuselessreport; stephenhayes; waronterror

1 posted on 09/16/2006 5:54:48 AM PDT by ikez78
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To: ikez78


2 posted on 09/16/2006 5:55:18 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: ash-housewares; Peach; jveritas; jwalsh07; ladyinred; EQAndyBuzz; Marine_Uncle; ...

Stephen Hayes PING

3 posted on 09/16/2006 5:55:18 AM PDT by ikez78 (
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To: ikez78

Thanks very much for YOUR work...

4 posted on 09/16/2006 5:59:26 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: PGalt

Its the least I can do.

5 posted on 09/16/2006 6:00:49 AM PDT by ikez78 (
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To: ikez78

Great job!


6 posted on 09/16/2006 6:05:47 AM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Our troops will send all of the worlds terrorists to hell in a handbasket with no virgins!)
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To: ikez78
"The purpose of this section is to assess the accuracy of the Intelligence Community's prewar analysis on links between the regime of Saddam Hussein and al Qaeda using information collected since Operation Iraqi Freedom."

The obvious purpose is to distance themselves from their commitment to the war in Iraq so they can get re-elected. So they do a cursory comb-over on the bald truth and hope that Propecia Politics will cover the facts...and their own asses.

7 posted on 09/16/2006 6:08:26 AM PDT by January24th
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To: ikez78
I found this article recently. It discusses some of the terrorist training, etc., that took place under Saddam in Salman Pak (Iraq).

Deroy Murdock article from 2003: The 9/11 Connection, What Salman Pak could reveal

Murdock quotes James Woolsey, President Clinton's CIA chief from 1993 to 1995: "I believe it is definitely more likely than not that some degree of common effort in the sense of aiding or abetting or conspiracy was involved here between Iraq and the al Qaeda," Woolsey said on March 3[, 2003].
8 posted on 09/16/2006 6:09:46 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: ikez78
The Senate Intelligence Committee Report was produced by liberal staff writers with a clear ideological axe to grind. From the evidence that was omitted, ignored, distorted and misrepresented in the report, it is clear there was an ongoing relationship between the Ba'athist regime and Al Qaeda. In fact, it is a relationship that continues to this very day. All we have for the report's tendentious and highly suspect claim that Saddam never had a relationship with much less than supported AQ is his own word. So the U.S Senate Intelligence Committee takes the word of a pathological psychopath in support of its preposterous theory that Saddam the secular dictator was opposed to the radical Islamofascist Osama Bin Laden. History begs to differ. We should leave the final and more revealing words on the subject to Iraq's Deputy Prime Minister Barham Salih:

And late last week, following the release of the Senate report, Barham Salih, deputy prime minister of Iraq, had this to say: "The alliance between the Baathists and jihadists which sustains al Qaeda in Iraq is not new, contrary to what you may have been told." Salih continued: "I know this at first hand. Some of my friends were murdered by jihadists, by al Qaeda-affiliated operatives who had been sheltered and assisted by Saddam's regime."

You won't find this anywhere in the Senate report since it contradicts the liberal staff writers' objective to create a halo around Saddam Hussein and to also advance the now discredited notion Iraq is NOT a central front in the War On Terror. The above facts will not make their way either into the Drive By Media. Some day, a full account of the relationship between the Saddam dictatorship and the terrorists it sponsored will be produced. As Stephen F. Hayes notes, given what we know about the Senate report, in view of its deficiencies and grave shortcomings, "is unlikely to merit even a footnote in [ such a future] history."

(No more Olmert! No more Kadima! No more Oslo! )

9 posted on 09/16/2006 6:14:26 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Just mythoughts
The US Senate consist of a bucnh of inept people who expect their every whim to be catered to. They are mostly figureheads and people trying to build their own little Kingdoms. America is truly in dire straights when we have people like this leading and that is how and why 9/11 came about to start with. These idiots cater to special interest and have little or not interest in those of us who elect them.
10 posted on 09/16/2006 6:16:34 AM PDT by gunnedah
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To: goldstategop

This is the very thing that republicans allow to get out there, the dems take it and run with it. We hear this twisted version as fact over and over and over by every liberal talking head.
I am really sick of the US senate--and yes, even the REPUBLICAN senate.

11 posted on 09/16/2006 6:35:14 AM PDT by jackv (just shakin' my head)
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To: ikez78

I wonder, could someone post the names on the Committee and the leaders of the two parties, chairman of the Committee? I smell Warner and McCain.

12 posted on 09/16/2006 6:51:04 AM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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To: ikez78

"Senate" and "Intelligence" in one sentence...any questions?

13 posted on 09/16/2006 6:54:19 AM PDT by WoodstockCat (General Honore: "The storm gets a vote... We're not stuck on stupid.")
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To: ikez78

Thanks for the ping. These people make me sick. Even before 9/11 and Bush was elected, we have news stories of Saddam offering sanctuary to UBL. Clinton's own DOJ via a Federal Judge in New York unveiled a sealed indictment of UBL in 1998. The indictment, unsealed later that same year, stated among other things that "Al Qaeda reached an agreement with Iraq not to work against the regime of Saddam Hussein and that they would work cooperatively with Iraq, particularly in weapons development."

Even putting aside the question of UBL and AQ, Saddam's Iraq was still a major supporter of terrorists around the world. According to a State Department report, the terrorists whom Hussein backed had killed or injured more than 3,500 civilians outside Iraq. From Abbas to Nidal to their affilate organizations (PLF, PLO, ANO, Islamic Jihad, etc), Saddam provided safe-haven to the most wanted terrorists in the world.

These reasons alone made the ouster of Saddam a legitimate cause, especially since Saddam was prohibited by the Gulf War Cease Fire and following UN resolutions from associating with terrorists. (U.N. Security Council Resolution 687 paragraph 32). The fact that some people continue to ignore and lie about these alliances just exposes how dangerous they are to this country's security.

14 posted on 09/16/2006 7:06:28 AM PDT by cwb (Liberalism is the opiate of the *sses.)
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Pat Roberts, Kansas
Chairman John D. Rockefeller IV
West Virginia, Vice Chairman
Orrin G. Hatch, Utah Carl Levin, Michigan
Mike Dewine, Ohio Dianne Feinstein, California
Christopher S. Bond, Missouri Ron Wyden, Oregon
Trent Lott, Mississippi Evan Bayh, Indiana
Olympia J. Snowe, Maine Barbara Mikulski
Chuck Hagel, Nebraska Russell D. Feingold, Wisc.
Saxby Chambliss, Georgia

I would say the Demmies on there are pretty well known as terrorist enablers.. Chambliss ,Snowe, Dewine are easily explained as RINO trash
The one that foold me is Orren Hatch.

The frightening thing is this came from a republican majority Senate . Can you imagine what this country will be like if democrats take both houses.???

God save America.

15 posted on 09/16/2006 7:17:48 AM PDT by sgtbono2002 (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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To: ikez78

He was reluctant but the Devil made him do it... *g

16 posted on 09/16/2006 7:18:06 AM PDT by NCjim (The more I use Windows, the more I love UNIX)
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To: ikez78

I believe we have enemy moles in The Senate, called "Senators".

17 posted on 09/16/2006 7:19:31 AM PDT by RoadTest (- - - for without victory there is no survival. -Winston Churchill)
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To: ikez78

Thanks for this. The evidence is there and easily attained if someone is really interested in the truth--this group, with resources far beyond most armchair researchers, didn't consider it for only one possible reason: it didn't fit their agenda.

18 posted on 09/16/2006 7:22:36 AM PDT by MizSterious (Anonymous sources often means "the voices in my head told me.")
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To: TomGuy

Wasn't it J.W. here, that Ol'Slick didn't talk to for years?

19 posted on 09/16/2006 7:22:39 AM PDT by litehaus (A memory tooooo long)
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To: ikez78
I'm about to turn 60, so I have a little bit of perspective. But I have to ask, "Is this the first time in history that our politicians have been so intent, in so many ways, on subverting the nation?" Or is it simply a matter that I can now read about it outside the normal news media?

In either case, it's depressing, since it is almost impossible to unseat an incumbent senator. What radical action can thwart these self-aggrandizing enemies of the people they "represent?"

20 posted on 09/16/2006 7:24:45 AM PDT by Chaguito
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To: ikez78

So....the Senate says they have no intelligence? I can't argue with that. Being intelligent means one is able to learn and understand. Apparently they can do neither. They receive reports and lose them, read them and not understand what the report is about or just plain forget what the report said. They are unable to read the reports and apply the knowledge to what is going on around them, or apply cause and effect relationships. They are unable to distinguish fact from talking points or disclose the whole story.

21 posted on 09/16/2006 7:26:45 AM PDT by WV Mountain Mama (If Bin Laden were a woman, Clinton would have nailed him.)
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To: sgtbono2002
Saxby isn't a rino. The Rockefeller connection is why this specious report came forward with such prevarications. The Rockefeller family is on a one-world government track that they seek to bring about at ANY COST, including the demise of this nation. Bastard should be in Levenworth isolation.

I wanted the names so I would know which Republicans to flame with snail mail letters. Time to tell these spineless pukes what some of the people know and how that indicts these pubby senators as fools on public display. The day after the elections, I intend a campaign to get alternate pubby candidates (not prone to sleeping through committee meetings and signing off on lies from democraps) into the primaries for 2008 and 2010. Time to clean our house, and I do mean OUR HOUSE.

22 posted on 09/16/2006 7:39:27 AM PDT by MHGinTN (If you can read this, you've had life support from someone. Promote life support for others.)
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23 posted on 09/16/2006 7:42:17 AM PDT by r-q-tek86 (** Tagline Removed By Admin Moderator **)
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To: WoodstockCat

you beat me ;) So easy.............

24 posted on 09/16/2006 8:01:41 AM PDT by sheana
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I dont think I stated Saxby was a Rino. Irregardless now you have the list.

25 posted on 09/16/2006 8:02:01 AM PDT by sgtbono2002 (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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To: ikez78

Excellent article.

26 posted on 09/16/2006 8:05:53 AM PDT by jveritas (Support The Commander in Chief in Times of War)
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To: jackv

'I am really sick of the US senate ..and yes, even the Republican senate.'

me too. and that's what I wrote to Ken Mehlman when I returned the RNC letter asking for money. Told him I will give no more money to RNC until he gets the Republican Senators to support the President's efforts to protect our great nation. Told him to visit with Rep Senators and let them know their behavior is adversely affecting RNC coffers. Will donate to individual Senators but not to the RNC. I am tired and disgusted by Senators like Spector, McCain, Graham and their ilk, not to mention, Dem lite Sen. Chaffee, Snowe and Hagel.

27 posted on 09/16/2006 8:08:24 AM PDT by 4integrity
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To: sgtbono2002

Because of the sensitive nature of intelligence, the rules of the Senate give the leadership of the Senate Intelligence Committee to Democrats in perpetuity, regardless of the partisan makeup of the Senate, but likewise grants numerical equality to the Republicans. Provided that all Democrats on the committee unite in their anti-Americanism and that some even adhere to the enemies of the United States to give aid and comfort, the Democrats can prevail on every vote automatically with the absence or agreement of a single Republican. Because the Senate Republicans notoriously lack either backbones or testicular fortitude and generally aim to appease their partisan enemies, the Democrats basically rule the committee. Only with the agreement of two-thirds of the Senators present and voting can the Republicans change the rules governing the partisan makeup of the Senate Intelligence Committee. So we're stuck with this odious clique conducting espionage and treason for our enemies.

28 posted on 09/16/2006 8:11:42 AM PDT by dufekin (The New York Times: an enemy espionage agency with a newsletter of enemy propaganda)
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To: Chaguito

I'm about half that, and I agree it is depressing because a lot of our "radicals" are heavily invested in daily 2(+) Minutes Hate against POTUS and entire country, instead of loving our awesome country enough to track and hold our representatives accountable, or to even exercise their freedom of speech in civil discourse (instead of paranoid lunatic ravings that President Bush is all at once the most stupidest dummy on earth AND the evil 9-11 mastermind getting richer off oil, etc.).

However, I went to the 9-11 memorial in Sacramento and heard from some awesome U.S. servicemembers who have served in Iraq, and it was SO encouraging and awesome! I hope we can elect a lot of those wonderful dedicated Americans to office so we can be represented by people willing and able to deal with reality (rather than insane lies, denial and displacement).

29 posted on 09/16/2006 8:11:56 AM PDT by MonicaG (Praying for our troops, leadership, Israel & IDF. Thanks to our veterans & their families.)
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To: ikez78

Thanks for the ping. I just knew that Hayes would be writing about the recent Senate Intelligence Report, and he's done a great job.

And just today I read that Iraqis are upset with the Pope's comments about Muslims. But how can that be? We keep hearing that Saddam never had a relationship with Al Qaeda because "Saddam was secular".

If Saddam was so darned secular, how in the world did he put up with the Islamists in his regime?

30 posted on 09/16/2006 8:14:27 AM PDT by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they captured or killed.)
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To: TomGuy

I would sure like Woolsey's opinion of this Senate Intel. Committee report, AND the "opinion" that the DEMs and Hagel and Snowe are out spreading around.

31 posted on 09/16/2006 8:21:19 AM PDT by Txsleuth (,((((((((ISRAEL)))))) Pray for the release of the Israelis.)
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has all the members and then you can get their phone numbers

calling them would be a great idea

32 posted on 09/16/2006 8:44:02 AM PDT by ikez78 (
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To: 4integrity

"Told him I will give no more money to RNC until he gets the Republican Senators to support the President's efforts.."

Me too!! And now I won't answer my phone because they keep calling!

And they call this "oversight"?? What a joke. These senators have gone LAZY. They come out huffing as though they are so exhausted from all their hard work. Yea right, going to all those worthless meetings is hard work I bet!! Somebody else does all the "work" and all they do is sign the bottem line.
phooey on any more $$ from me either!!!

33 posted on 09/16/2006 9:39:39 AM PDT by jackv (just shakin' my head)
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To: ikez78

Yet again does Steve come out with some good stuff. Thanks for the ping.

34 posted on 09/16/2006 4:43:10 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: ikez78; All


35 posted on 09/16/2006 5:32:14 PM PDT by musicman
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To: ikez78; All

Why doesn't Bush refute this report?

36 posted on 09/18/2006 7:02:58 AM PDT by doesnt suffer fools gladly (Liberals lie.)
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To: Marine_Uncle; All; eyespysomething

Everyone PLEASE contact these members of the Senate intel committee and let them know what they missed on this report.

Pat Roberts
Washington D.C. Office:
109 Hart Senate Office Building
Washington, DC 20510-1605
Phone: 202-224-4774
Fax: 202-224-3514

Orrin Hatch
Washington DC Office
104 Hart Office Building
Washington, DC 20510
Tel: (202) 224-5251
Fax: (202) 224-6331

Mike Dewine
Washington, D.C. Office
140 Russell Senate Building
Washington, DC 20510
Phone: (202) 224-2315
Fax: (202) 224-6519
TDD: (202) 224-9921

Kit Bond
Washington, DC Office:
274 Russell Senate Office Bldg.
Washington, DC 20510

Trent Lott
Phone: (202) 224-6253
Fax: (202) 224-2262

Olympia Snowe
Toll free in Maine: (800) 432-1599
TDD - Maine Relay Service: 1-955-3323

Chuck Hagel
Washington, D.C. Office
248 Russell Senate Office Building
Washington, DC 20510
Tel: (202) 224-4224
Fax: (202) 224-5213

Senator Saxby Chambliss
Republican - Georgia United States Senate
Washington, DC 20510
Evan Bayh
463 Russell Office Building
United States Senate
Washington, DC 20510
(202) 224-5623
(202) 228-1377 fax

37 posted on 09/19/2006 11:59:33 AM PDT by ikez78 (
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To: jveritas

The Weekly Standard is the only magazine I subscribe to; it's great. They constantly blow holes in the mass media lies.

38 posted on 09/19/2006 5:33:55 PM PDT by pleikumud
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To: jackv

Yes, the real atrocity is that REPUBLICANS (well, worthless RINOs like Hagel and Snowe) allowed the Demagogues to produce this propagandistic garbage as the official report, phase II, of the SSCI. I'm never surprised anymore when the Demagogues produce crap like this, and much worse, but no Republican should ever be complicit in endorsing or enabling such nonsense. Hagel and Snowe truly are dangerous imbeciles.

39 posted on 09/19/2006 5:38:31 PM PDT by Enchante (There are 3 kinds of lies: Lies, Damned Lies, and the Drive-By Media)
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To: PGalt; ikez78
You two get an attaboy
40 posted on 09/20/2006 4:46:48 PM PDT by Valin (
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