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Senate probes clash over CIA reports on Iraq arms (Iraqi official who told U.S. that Iraq had WMD)
Reuters ^ | 9-25-06 | David Morgan

Posted on 09/16/2006 3:30:59 PM PDT by ikez78

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A U.S. Senate panel has begun an inquiry to determine what a top official in Saddam Hussein's government told the CIA about Iraqi weapons of mass destruction in late 2002 as the Bush administration made its case for war. ADVERTISEMENT

The Senate Select Committee on Intelligence said in a September 8 report that it launched the investigation after the CIA's former chief of European clandestine operations appeared on the CBS' "60 Minutes" news magazine in April. The official, Tyler Drumheller, told CBS that the Iraqi government source had said Iraq had no active unconventional weapons program.

Drumheller's disclosure contradicted spy agency documents quoting the same Iraqi source as saying Saddam did have such programs, according to an addendum to the Senate report written by three Republican senators including chairman Pat Roberts of Kansas.

"We have differing interpretations, and I think mine's right," Drumheller, who has already testified on the matter before the committee, told Reuters on Friday. Drumheller is preparing to publish a book about his 26-year career that will include material on Iraq and the U.S. war on terrorism.

The Iraqi official, identified by CBS as former Foreign Minister Naji Sabri, also told the CIA that Iraq considered al Qaeda a longtime enemy and had "no past, current or anticipated future contact" with Osama bin Laden, the senators said.

The CIA did not pass that along to policymakers, the senators said. Nor was it disseminated to intelligence analysts. That was because CIA officials concluded the Iraqi official's comments on al Qaeda were nothing new, the senators said.

The CIA gained access to the source in Saddam's inner circle in September 2002, as President George W. Bush warned Americans that Iraq's weapons of mass destruction posed an imminent threat and that Saddam had ties to the al Qaeda network responsible for the September 11 attacks.

The United States invaded Iraq six months later. But U.S. troops have found no such weapons there. The Senate report, echoing earlier findings by the September 11 commission, also concludes that Saddam Hussein had no relationship with al Qaeda.

Drumheller's televised comments lent support to allegations that the administration focused on intelligence which backed its case for war with Iraq while ignoring contradictory reports.

But in the Senate report, which compares prewar Iraq intelligence with postwar findings, the Republican senators said a CIA operations cable and an intelligence report to high-level policymakers both contradict Drumheller.

"The committee has not completed its inquiry," Roberts said in an additional views addendum co-authored with Sen. Orrin Hatch (news, bio, voting record) of Utah and Sen. Saxby Chambliss (news, bio, voting record) of Georgia. All three are staunch White House allies.

"All of the information about this case so far indicates that the information from this source was that Iraq did have WMD programs," they wrote.

Drumheller said Saddam had no fissile material for bomb-making and that chemical munitions posed little danger because they had been dispersed in small numbers to political leaders across the country.

"There was no prospect of an immediate attack from any kind of weapon like this," he said.

The Iraqi official had told the CIA the only weapons program not fully active was a biological weapons program he described as amateur, the senators said in the report.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: curveball; drumheller; iraqwmd; senate; tylerdrumheller; waronterror; wmd

1 posted on 09/16/2006 3:31:01 PM PDT by ikez78
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To: ash-housewares; Peach; jveritas; jwalsh07; ladyinred; EQAndyBuzz; Marine_Uncle; ...

PING


2 posted on 09/16/2006 3:31:36 PM PDT by ikez78 (www.regimeofterror.com)
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To: ikez78; Peach; backhoe
The United States invaded Iraq six months later. But U.S. troops have found no such weapons there. The Senate report, echoing earlier findings by the September 11 commission, also concludes that Saddam Hussein had no relationship with al Qaeda.

FReepers know better than this. And we have the links to prove it :)

The Senate report is a bunch of BS.

3 posted on 09/16/2006 3:45:40 PM PDT by upchuck (Q:Why does President Bush support amnesty for illegal aliens? A:Read this: http://tinyurl.com/nyvno)
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To: ikez78

What a bunch of crapola this whole article is!!!

Bush NEVER, EVER said there was an imminent threat by Saddam..AND it tries to say that Bush linked Saddam to 9/11.

Enough said.


4 posted on 09/16/2006 3:46:35 PM PDT by Txsleuth (,((((((((ISRAEL)))))) Pray for the release of the Israelis.)
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To: upchuck

Oh, yeah..I forgot..you are right, the Senate Report is as bad as Reuters.

BTW...we have a thread today, with an article written by Stephen Hayes...HE and Brandon Miniter are 10 times more knowledgable than the writer of this article..

AND the Senate Intel Committee that has set out to FRAME Pres. Bush from the start.


5 posted on 09/16/2006 3:48:40 PM PDT by Txsleuth (,((((((((ISRAEL)))))) Pray for the release of the Israelis.)
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To: Txsleuth

Can you post a link to the Hayes article. I'd like to readit and I'm sure others will also. Thanks!


6 posted on 09/16/2006 3:50:34 PM PDT by upchuck (Q:Why does President Bush support amnesty for illegal aliens? A:Read this: http://tinyurl.com/nyvno)
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To: ikez78
Drumheller's disclosure contradicted spy agency documents quoting the same Iraqi source as saying Saddam did have such programs, according to an addendum to the Senate report written by three Republican senators including chairman Pat Roberts of Kansas.
"We have differing interpretations, and I think mine's right," Drumheller, who has already testified on the matter before the committee, told Reuters on Friday. Drumheller is preparing to publish a book about his 26-year career that will include material on Iraq and the U.S. war on terrorism

So the dems are basing their argument on one guys interpretation instead of all the documents?

7 posted on 09/16/2006 3:52:39 PM PDT by Mo1 (Think about it .. A Speaker Nancy Pelosi could be 2 seats away from being President)
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To: ikez78

I'm tired of arguments about the wisdom of invading Iraq. It happened, it's over, and there are more pressing matters in front of us now.


8 posted on 09/16/2006 3:52:57 PM PDT by popdonnelly
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To: ikez78

Never believe a guy who's trying to sell his book.


9 posted on 09/16/2006 3:54:09 PM PDT by KellyAdmirer
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To: upchuck

Here is the one today by Hitchens:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1702499/posts

I may have thought Hayes was today...I will search for it and post in a bit.


10 posted on 09/16/2006 4:08:52 PM PDT by Txsleuth (,((((((((ISRAEL)))))) Pray for the release of the Israelis.)
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To: upchuck

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1702582/posts

Here is the Stephen Hayes article:

BOTH of them are very good, this one and the Hitchens one.


11 posted on 09/16/2006 4:10:57 PM PDT by Txsleuth (,((((((((ISRAEL)))))) Pray for the release of the Israelis.)
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To: popdonnelly

pop...WE ALL ARE!!!

BUT, that is the only thing the DEMS and MSM seem to think they can "pin" on Bush..

Plamegate fell apart..


12 posted on 09/16/2006 4:12:29 PM PDT by Txsleuth (,((((((((ISRAEL)))))) Pray for the release of the Israelis.)
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To: ikez78
The official, Tyler Drumheller, told CBS that the Iraqi government source had said Iraq had no active unconventional weapons program.

Liar liar panties on fire.

The source said just the opposite.
13 posted on 09/16/2006 4:32:05 PM PDT by Jaysun (Idiot Muslims. They're just dying to have sex orgies.)
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To: Txsleuth

Thanks for the link.


14 posted on 09/16/2006 4:35:34 PM PDT by upchuck (Q:Why does President Bush support amnesty for illegal aliens? A:Read this: http://tinyurl.com/nyvno)
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To: ikez78
Several outright lies in this article but I stopped reading when this appeared.

"President George W. Bush warned Americans that Iraq's weapons of mass destruction posed an imminent threat and that Saddam had ties to the al Qaeda network responsible for the September 11 attacks."

Absolute RUBBISH, absolutely UNTRUE!!

15 posted on 09/16/2006 4:37:25 PM PDT by PISANO
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To: Txsleuth

The Bush Administration and the President's lawyers should write a letter to Reuters demanding they retract or correct the statement that the President said the threat was imminent which he did not. After all, as with the Path to 9-11, the Clinton people expressed a concern, and the media agreed, that inaccurate statements shouldn't be attributed to "real" people. I'm sure we can expect to read Reuters and all other media outlets correct the record in the interest of the public. Read as sarcasm..big time!


16 posted on 09/16/2006 5:01:53 PM PDT by 4integrity
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To: ikez78

The left's whitewashing, dis-information campaigns will continue. All we can do is attempt to share info to counter their claims. As for the Senate. What can one say. They could not even include a lot of important things in the original 9/11 report due to their ineptness, and willingness to create a document that whitewashed and protected the Clintoons from embarresment. Able Danger anyone.


17 posted on 09/16/2006 5:02:55 PM PDT by Marine_Uncle (Honor must be earned)
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To: upchuck

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/keyword?k=onfreep

Look through this list of free republic articles on Saddam, Several of which include references to his WMD programs.

The most interesting are the ones pertaining to his detonation of a low yield nuclear device and his use of political prisoners to clean up the debris after and then be entombed. Check the Gwynne Roberts article.


18 posted on 09/16/2006 5:06:05 PM PDT by Sundog (In a world without Walls or Fences, who needs Windows or Gates?)
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To: ikez78
A U.S. Senate panel has begun an inquiry...

Sure, why not! It's not like the Senate has anything better to do. /sarc

19 posted on 09/16/2006 5:06:33 PM PDT by SMM48
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To: ikez78
The United States invaded Iraq six months later. But U.S. troops have found no such weapons there.

Not true.

20 posted on 09/16/2006 5:08:05 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troo This means praying for them to WIN!)
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To: 4integrity

I am sure, with Reuter's propensity for posting FAKE pictures, they just don't mind posting FAKE NEWS!


21 posted on 09/16/2006 5:19:46 PM PDT by Txsleuth (,((((((((ISRAEL)))))) Pray for the release of the Israelis.)
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To: ikez78
"Senate probes clash over CIA reports on Iraq arms (Iraqi official who told U.S. that Iraq had WMD)"

H@ll the European CIA told the US he had WMD..the question is who wasn't deceived?

22 posted on 09/16/2006 5:51:50 PM PDT by Earthdweller (All reality is based on faith in something.)
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To: ikez78

Just gotta keep digging. Undermining the U.S is a msm and liberal occupation.


23 posted on 09/16/2006 6:05:26 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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To: upchuck

Okay, I just got home and haven't read the whole thread so forgive me if someone else already posted this, but this guy is a liar and it was proven in the Senate Intelligence Report recently released:

In a "60 Minutes" interview on April 23, Tyler Drumheller, a former chief of the CIA's Europe division, made a sensational charge.

He claimed that President Bush and his White House ignored intelligence before the invasion of Iraq indicating that Saddam Hussein had no had weapons of mass destruction.

On the CBS-TV show, and in subsequent media interviews that appeared throughout the world, Drumheller said that the White House was excited about the fact that the CIA was getting information straight from Naji Sabri, the then Iraqi foreign minister. But when the White House found out this source was reliably saying that Saddam had no WMD, Bush and his White House weren't interested.

"He [Sabri] told us that they had no active weapons of mass destruction program," Drumheller told correspondent Ed Bradley in a segment called "A Spy Speaks Out."

"So in the fall of 2002, before going to war, we had it on good authority from a source within Saddam's inner circle that he didn't have an active program for weapons of mass destruction?" Bradley asked.

"Yes," Drumheller said, proclaiming himself outraged.

According to Drumheller, Bush, Vice President Dick Cheney, and National Security Advisor Condoleezza Rice brushed aside the CIA report on what Sabri had to say because "the policy was set. The war in Iraq was coming, and they were looking for intelligence to fit into the policy, to justify the policy."

Drumheller saw "how the Bush administration time and time again welcomed intelligence that fit the president's determination to go to war and turned a blind eye to intelligence that did not," Ed Bradley said in the introduction to the "60 Minutes" piece.

Now it appears Drumheller's claim was untrue, according to the findings of a Senate Select Committee on Intelligence investigation. Rather than undercutting the Bush administration's rationale for invading Iraq, Sabri's account shows how well-founded the intelligence on Saddam's weapons program appeared to be.

Ironically, just as Drumheller claimed that Bush ignored the truth about Iraq, the media have ignored the documentation in the Senate report demolishing Drumheller's claim.

An addenda to the Senate report on postwar findings about Iraq's WMD program says all the operational documents relating to Sabri indicate he told the CIA just the opposite of what Drumheller claimed. The Senate report refers to Sabri as a source with direct access to Saddam Hussein and his inner circle but does not name him.

"Both the operations cable and the intelligence report prepared for high-level policy-makers [based on interrogation of the source] said that while Saddam Hussein did not have a nuclear weapon, ‘he was aggressively and covertly developing such a weapon,'" the Senate report said.

The documents said "Iraq was producing and stockpiling chemical weapons," according to the addendum, signed by Sens. Pat Roberts, R–Kan., Orrin G. Hatch, R–Utah, and Saxby Chambliss, R–Ga. Iraq's weapon of last resort was mobile launched chemical weapons, which would be fired at enemy forces and Israel, the CIA documents said.

Moreover, there is "not a single document relating to this case which indicates that the source said Iraq had no WMD programs," the addenda said. "On the contrary, all of the information about this case so far indicates that the information from this source was that Iraq did have WMD programs."

What the source said was consistent with the CIA's October 2002 National Intelligence Estimate, the report said. The report added: "The committee is still exploring why the former chief/EUR's public remarks differ so markedly from the documentation."

At least 134 stories and TV shows have referred to Drumheller's claims and his criticism of the CIA and Bush administration in general. One of the stories ran as the second lead of the June 25, 2006 Washington Post.

"Warnings on WMD ‘Fabricator' Were Ignored, Ex-CIA Aide Says," the headline over the Post story said. According to the story, Drumheller was dumbfounded when he saw a classified version of the speech Secretary of State Colin Powell was about to give to the United Nations citing Iraq's biological weapons factories on wheels.

Drumheller claimed he had warned George Tenet, the director of Central Intelligence, in a phone call, and John McLaughlin, the deputy director, in a personal meeting that the source for that claim, code-named "Curveball," was a fabricator.

Not until the 32nd paragraph of the Post story did the reader learn that both Tenet and McLaughlin said they had no recollection of warnings Drumheller allegedly gave them. Both men said they would have taken immediate action if he had.

While two former CIA officials said they recalled Drumheller telling them at the time about warnings he allegedly gave McLaughlin, no meeting with Drumheller appeared on McLaughlin's official calendar, according to the report of the Commission on Intelligence Capabilities of the U.S. Regarding Weapons of Mass Destruction, known as the Silverman-Robb commission.

Carroll & Graf is publishing Drumheller's book, "On the Brink: How the White House Has Compromised American Intelligence," written with Elaine Monaghan, on Sept. 28, according to the Amazon listing. The publisher's Web site lists the publication date as this winter.

Neither Drumheller nor a Carroll & Graf spokesperson responded to messages seeking comment.

So far, no media outlet has run the Senate committee's addendum demolishing Drumheller's claim that Bush and his White House did not want to hear the truth about whether Iraq had weapons of mass destruction.

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1700681/posts


24 posted on 09/16/2006 7:08:15 PM PDT by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they captured or killed.)
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To: ikez78

Thanks for the ping, ikez78. See #24.


25 posted on 09/16/2006 7:09:31 PM PDT by Peach (The Clintons pardoned more terrorists than they captured or killed.)
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To: KellyAdmirer

"Never believe a guy who's trying to sell his book."

What about the Iraqi General who said Iraq moved their WMD to Syria? He was selling a book. Do we believe him?


26 posted on 09/16/2006 7:53:23 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz ("For seven million extra, we could have avoided a billion dollar WOT.")
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To: Mo1
So the dems are basing their argument on one guys interpretation instead of all the documents?

Of course they are...the 1 person's opinion matches what they want to be the truth, all the documents proves they're wrong. So of course the dems will take the delusion over the facts...they're dems.

27 posted on 09/16/2006 9:32:54 PM PDT by highlander_UW (I don't know what my future holds, but I know Who holds my future)
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