Leftist Convention in Mexico City Names Lopez Obrador "Legitimate President" of Mexico (Translation)

eluniversal.com.mx ^ | September 16, 2006 | eluniversal.com.mx redaction ( translated by self )

[StJacques]

Convention Names AMLO "Legitimate President"

After voting on this convention's proposals, the delegates agreed that they will not recognize Felipe Calderon as President-Elect nor the government which he heads

6:27 p.m. The resolutions of the Democratic National Convention designated Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador as "Legitimate President."

After voting on this convention's proposals, the delegates agreed that they will not recognize Felipe Calderon as President Elect nor the government which he heads.

In the midst of shouts of acceptance, the sympathizers await the arrival of Lopez Obrador, as reported [on the radio program] Formato 21.

More information shortly

[StJacques]

And thus emerges a new leftist tactic for challenging elections they lose. Simply construct an extra-legal body, claim constitutional authority for it, and declare yourself the winner.

[StJacques]

Here we go.

[tet68]

Watch for it here.

[Thunder90]

Can we take AMLO out???

[StJacques]

"Watch for it here."

Yes; I should have mentioned that I expect to put up quite a bit more within this thread as news is made public on the Mexican web sites.

[Jet Jaguar]

Let's watch them take Algore to a brand new level.

Thanks for the post.

[Michael Goldsberry]

... same stuff, different country...

[GarySpFc]

Do I hear the pitter patter of George Soros and his stolen election charge? We heard that charge in the 2000 and 2004 elections. He sold the same charge in the color revolutions in Georgia and Ukraine.

[kingu]

Treason is a pretty universal crime, isn't it?

The only response to this junk is the same response given by Freepers to Al Gore. Wahh, wahh, wahh.

Next time it might be worth it to get more of the vote.

[xcamel]

If Fox would enforce the law, AMLO would be arrested and hung by monday.

[Enterprise]

I was hoping things had settled down. Evidently NOT!!

[Thunder90]

George Soros tried to block the Color Revolutions, because Soros is a KGB agent, just like Vladimir Putin is one.

[rwilson99]

The 'winner' either needs to refuse this honor very publically or be put in jail for treason.

It's really that simple.

[vladimir998]

I hope the Pope makes a perfectly innocent statement about this real soon. Then...

Well, we all know how morons act after that.

[NRA2BFree]

What do you think is going to happen? Riots, civil war?

[okie01]

Simply construct an extra-legal body, claim constitutional authority for it, and declare yourself the winner.

Damn! Why didn't Algore think of that?

Or, more accurately, why didn't Richard Daley think of that?

[NinoFan]

Thanks for the ping. You are a true treasure to FR.

[goldfinch]

Earlier I read they expected to have 200,000 at their 'convention'. Do you have an estimate on crowd size?

[goldfinch]

Earlier I read they expected to have 200,000 at their 'convention'. Do you have an estimate on crowd size?

[StJacques]

"What do you think is going to happen? Riots, civil war?"

I'm going to quote myself from a post I put up yesterday on another thread.

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[Lopez Obrador and the Left's] plan is simple. Phase One: Immiserate the population and the nation by promoting the ingovernability of the country. Phase Two: Force new elections as a response to the ingovernability of the country. Phase Three: Take physical control of the principal institutions of the country before the new elections are held by holding the key centers of power. Phase Four: Conduct the elections under leftist control so as to guarantee victory.

AMLO's "Democratic National Convention" is more than a parallel government in my opinion. I think it represents a "replacement government" waiting to be put in place in what I described as "Phase Three" above. I consider all of this to be very very serious.
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"Ingovernability," i.e. "chaos," is the immediate goal. The Latin American Left is behind AMLO and his "movement."

[msnimje]

If it is that easy, why bother campaigning and having elections?

[StJacques]

"Earlier I read they expected to have 200,000 at their 'convention'. Do you have an estimate on crowd size?"

I saw an estimate in one article up at El Universal web site, posted while the "Convention" was gathering, that said it looked like 300,000 might show up. I have not seen a verifiable estimate since the event opened, but clearly it is much much less than the 1 million the PRD was predicting.

AMLO and the PRD have really hurt themselves within Mexico's Federal District (Mexico City) for their near two-month shutdown of the city's central business district. They committed the cardinal sin of hurting their own people, hitting them right in their pocketbooks.

I will keep an eye out for a reliable estimate of the crowd size and, if and when I find it, I will ping you goldfinch.

[StJacques]

"If it is that easy, why bother campaigning and having elections?"

If it wasn't for your obvious sarcasm I would say you're thinking like a leftist.

Instead, I'll say that you obviously know them all too well, don't you?

[rovenstinez]

Give people their beer, their parades, their soccer games, that's all they want. Fortunately SOME flying on UNITED 93 SAW SOMETHING and actually DID something. Fiddle around my friend Fox, Rome is now burning, We have TWO Presidents. Or at least in many minds. The longer solutions are put off to stop this uprising, the more difficult it will be to stop. Hang on. This could be a rough ride. Another 359,512 refugees going north for protection.

[StJacques]

I am always very interested to hear what you have to say about this rovenstinez?

The PAN legislators said that if AMLO declared himself as the "legitimate President" that he should be arrested for "usurpation" of the Presidency? Do you see any chance this will happen?

[melt]

After voting on this convention's proposals, the delegates agreed that they will not recognize Felipe Calderon as President Elect nor the government which he heads.

So they didn't risk a formal vote. They just "agreed" to disagree with the will of the Mexican people. Calderon should throw them out of the country.

[lesser_satan]

Why haven't he and his followers been arrested and shot for treason yet?

[jocko12]

Which side has the biggest army?

[msnimje]

Instead, I'll say that you obviously know them all too well, don't you?

Sadly, yes.

[lesser_satan]

Good point.

[Calvin Locke]

Apparently, Mexican Marxists are Super Stoked on Algor.

I'm Cerial.

[StJacques]

Okay; here's an update, and SURPRISE EVERYONE! AMLO ACCEPTED! Please check my footnote, you will not see a typo for "Stalinist," it is for "Salinist." And the noun Tabasqueño, is a way of referring to Lopez Obrador as being from the state of Tabasco.

And by the way, this is a translation of an article up at http://www.eluniversal.com.mx/notas/375673.html

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AMLO accepts charge of "Legitimate President"

The Tabasqueño hold "Salinist Politics"¹ responsible for the electoral fraud; says that he will work for the installation of a new republic

7:21 p.m. After the voting which designated Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador as "Legitimate President," the Tabasqueño accepted the charge because "we are rejecting the imposition [of Calderon as President] and the rupture of constitutional order."

In the closing speech of the Democratic National Convention, Lopez Obrador said that the personal interests of a regime of "bankers, of the trafficking of influence and corrupt politicians" [who] have not managed to accept the Nation's Alternative Project which the PRD membership proposes.

"From our point of view, the decomposition of the regime comes from afar and lately I have emphasized it and left it to the discovery of the electoral fraud. It has as its antecedent the Salinist project which converted itself into a committee serving bankers, influence traffickers, and corrupt politicians," Lopez Obrador indicated.

He warned those "men of the old regime that we are not closing down, we have the right of hope, we are not accepting fraud as the destiny of our people."

He said that he will denounce every act of corruption and will continue monitoring Fobaproa.²

Translation Notes:

¹ "Salinist" refers to what pertains to Carlos Salinas de Gortari, President of Mexico from 1988 - 1994; who is widely remembered for the suspicious circumstances under which he won the presidency in 1988, in which an election-night "computer crash" prevented the official publication of the votes for almost two days, after which it was revealed that Salinas had won. After leaving office Salinas fled to Ireland when his ties to drug-traffickers became public knowledge, though he was recently "repatriated" and has returned to Mexico. Lopez Obrador is essentially charging that Salinas stole another election.
² "Fobaproa" is an acronym for the Fondo Bancario de Protección al Ahorro, or the "Protection of Savings Banking Fund," which has been a noticeable source of corruption in Mexico, and a frequent target of PRD criticism.
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So far I have not seen AMLO say anything which might suggest that he has legal and official duties, which would truly get him into the black area of "usurpation." But we'll keep watch.

[Thunder90]

The US should take this guy out covertly...

[StJacques]

Boy; you really do want him taken out don't you Thunder90?

I'm just going to guess that you're one of those guys who prizes a good night's sleep. LOL! :-)

[Stultis]

DID THEY HAVE ANYTHING TO SAY ABOUT ALGORE???

[Stultis]

Does Obragore hold any elected office presently? If so, then he'll have to RESIGN immediately, and not run for any other elected office for the next six years. Obviously he can't hold or run for any other office while serving his term as "real" (make-believe) President!

[Stultis]

Oh, wait, that's right. Obragore resigned as "Mayor of Mexico" (head of the Federal District) last year in order to run for President. But, in the Mexican system, doesn't being President ("as if") significantly restrict the office holders participation in party politics? If Obragore is going to follow through fully with the pretense of being the "real" President, can he remain formal head of the PRD?

[Codename - Ron Benjamin]

Alright. Lopez is "president". What I'm interested now on is, will he join history along Joshua A. Norton, Emperor of the United States and Protector of Mexico?

[hermgem]

Do as Al Gore does.
Find something like Global Warming and keep this pot boiling until election time is right and then run again.
Theoretically you're the prime and favorite candidate as you came so close to the finish line the first time around.

[StJacques]

". . . will he join history along Joshua A. Norton, Emperor of the United States and Protector of Mexico?"

You know something Ron; I think you have just given me an idea for a web site. Who else could we put up? There's got to be a good list. We could even put up pics of AMLO alongside Elvis impersonators. This could really be rich! And I could do it in Spanish and English.

Does anyone else have ideas on famous "pretenders"? Maybe a good used-car salesman wearing a king's crown? Anything!

[livius]

I notice (according to El Universal) that Obragore has been authorized to appoint a cabinet and "collect funds." Does this mean the revolutionary tax (the polite name for ETA, IRA and FARC extortion) is now going to be applied in Mexico?

[StJacques]

"I notice (according to El Universal) that Obragore has been authorized to appoint a cabinet and "collect funds." Does this mean the revolutionary tax (the polite name for ETA, IRA and FARC extortion) is now going to be applied in Mexico?"

Well now you're getting into that "black area" I referred to in my post #32, which could lead to bona fide charges of "usurpation," which is a crime under Mexican law, something different that "treason." This is something worth watching.

[Unam Sanctam]

Leftists don't believe in respecting democratic Constitutional processes...

[GarySpFc]

George Soros tried to block the Color Revolutions, because Soros is a KGB agent, just like Vladimir Putin is one.

That is a bald faced lie. Not only is Soros person non grata in Russia, but Soros supported Yushechenko. Anybody can do a Google on Soros and Yushchenko and see the 38,800 hits making the connection. Your lie rates right down in the gutter with the communists.

Soros in Ukraine

[StJacques]

Alright everyone; here is the redaction of the tasks of the so-called "Democratic National Convention" which named Lopez Obrador "Legitimate President" of Mexico today.

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The Tasks of the Convention

This 16th of September the Democratic National Convention named Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador as "Legitimate President and winner of the elections of July 2nd

The delegates of this convention agree to constitute themselves into a permanent body whose resolutions will be voluntary and they will bring about the following actions:

• To protest all acts which Felipe Calderon presents.
• In coverage carried out by the communications media, especially television or photography, they will use posters to repudiate the presumed electoral fraud.
• The 27th of September they will begin diverse activities of civil resistance.
• The same will be repeated between the 2nd and 12th of October.
• The 20th of November, anniversary of the Mexican Revolution, Lopez Obrador will be anointed as President.
• The legislators of the PRD, Labor Party, and the Convergence Party have obliged themselves to prevent the investiture of Felipe Calderon next December 1st.
• The convention agreed to carry out its next meeting the 21st of March of 2007.

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In my opinion, the second-to-last bulleted item is the big one, because in my opinion it makes the case for an attack upon the State, as a political scientist would use the term. That qualifies as "usurpation" and should bring down the heavy hand of legal retribution in kind. If those in power in Mexico thinks that they can just ignore what is going on here and hope that it will just go away, they are sorely mistaken.

I'm thinking of preparing my own blog for the upcoming week, building upon the phrase I have seen the newscasters on Univision use on several occasions; Lopez Obrador y la vida imposible (Lopez Obrador and the impossible life). I'll see if I can get some free time.

[norton]

We used to have the "Bedspread King" in Los Angeles..,I think the store is still there with sign and all: but I couldn't post photos if I needed them to trade for a transfusion.

[norton]

There is also a "locally world famous" tire shop;
But they are actually legit.

[norton]

StJ:
are you willing to go along with the "build the fence yesterday" faction yet?

Otherwise, I'm not seeing this as coming out at all well for our side no matter who wins or loses...(?)

[Thunder90]

Maby that explains their return to the Russian orbit. Soros is a KGB agent just like Putin. They work together.

[StJacques]

I have supported the building of the fence. I don't like the implications it gives to our image, but if our laws cannot be enforced, then we have no other choice.