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Anti-War Sermon Leads IRS to Probe Church for Tax Violations
FoxNews (AP Story) ^

Posted on 09/16/2006 9:47:35 PM PDT by SandRat

IRS wants all 2004 election year documents and e-mails it produced talking about political candidates (it's a major uberLIBERAL church).

Because its FOX you'll have to go to the source to read the story.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: antiwar; church; irs; leads; probe; sermon; tax; violations
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1 posted on 09/16/2006 9:47:35 PM PDT by SandRat
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To: 91B; HiJinx; Spiff; MJY1288; xzins; Calpernia; clintonh8r; TEXOKIE; windchime; Grampa Dave; ...

Somebody is in trouble.........


2 posted on 09/16/2006 9:48:18 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: SandRat
Many so-called "black churches" should also be looked at.

I now return you to reality.

3 posted on 09/16/2006 9:53:23 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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Many so-called "black churches" should also be looked at.

You mean those that brought the likes of Clinton, Kerry and Jesse Jackson into the pulpits for electioneering? Naw, the IRS was out to lunch when these happened.

4 posted on 09/16/2006 9:55:37 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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Naw, the IRS was out to lunch when these happened.

Yup. And the Justice Department was buying.

5 posted on 09/16/2006 9:58:10 PM PDT by buccaneer81 (Bob Taft has soiled the family name for the next century.)
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LOL!


6 posted on 09/16/2006 9:59:05 PM PDT by taxesareforever (Never forget Matt Maupin)
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To: SandRat

Church tax-exempt status is supposed to guarantee freedom from government interference, but the government now uses it to extort silence from the pulpit. Whatever their politics, the clergy have the right of free speech. The congregations can figure out who they want to listen to.


7 posted on 09/16/2006 9:59:40 PM PDT by skr (We cannot play innocents abroad in a world that is not innocent.-- Ronald Reagan)
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Bump


8 posted on 09/16/2006 10:00:49 PM PDT by NutCrackerBoy
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When I was a kid growing up in America, people went to church to worship God.


9 posted on 09/16/2006 10:08:43 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (You can't defeat your enemy unless you are willing to get down in the mud with him.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

...Memories....


10 posted on 09/16/2006 10:12:53 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: SandRat
IRS wants all 2004 election year documents and e-mails it produced talking about political candidates

What took so them so long? This should be question in every pulpit in America. If they are "preaching politics" they should loose their tax-exempt status immediately if not retroactively and pay up their back taxes. Should help out the accounting and tax-preparation business immensely. How about that Jessie High Jackson and Al Sharpton running around preaching from the pulpits about who to elect - HUH? Everyone of those churches should be investigated by the IRS. No way elections can be UNDONE, but their Tax Exempt status can certain be UNDONE. "FEAR THIS" liberal weinies!!!

11 posted on 09/16/2006 10:15:19 PM PDT by AZConser
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about time these lefties learn their actions have consequnces.


12 posted on 09/16/2006 10:17:46 PM PDT by balch3
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disturbing...........

isn't the gop dominated government supposed to be the leadership of ethics and virtue?


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA - sorry, I know, my bad


13 posted on 09/16/2006 10:18:33 PM PDT by WhiteGuy (It's about the People Who Count the Votes................. - Wally O'Dell)
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"Church tax-exempt status is supposed to guarantee freedom from government interference"

Not quite. It allows churches to operate tax free but at a cost, no politics.

"Whatever their politics, the clergy have the right of free speech"

They have free speech rights. Let them give up their tax exempt status and they can preach whatever they want from their pulpit. Churches accept these limitations when they apply for tax exempt status. They know the rules before they sign up.


14 posted on 09/16/2006 10:19:16 PM PDT by MissouriConservative (People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid - Kierkegaard)
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Churches accept these limitations when they apply for tax exempt status. They know the rules before they sign up.

That's right. It should be noted that although the tax exempt status is a BIG stick to use to keep a church away from politics, IT IS A SINGLE USE WEAPON. If a church's tax exempt status is revoked, the church cannot be further penalized and it is now free to get involved in politics. If an administration does such a thing, it is likely that the preacher will be in his pulpit denouncing the administration and urging the congregation to vote against the party in power. It is very much a two-edged sword!

15 posted on 09/16/2006 10:29:00 PM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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And that preacher will either lose a 1/3 to a 1/2 of his flock, or he'll literally be "preaching to the choir".


16 posted on 09/16/2006 10:47:40 PM PDT by Hannibal Hamlin
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Exactly. If the church is truly behind its principles, dropping the tax exempt status would not be a second thought. But mega churches don't wish to pay taxes. They want to be tax free and get involved in politics....can't have that cake and eat it too.


17 posted on 09/16/2006 11:29:42 PM PDT by MissouriConservative (People demand freedom of speech to make up for the freedom of thought which they avoid - Kierkegaard)
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To: SandRat
Bacon: But we're leftists; that law doesn't apply to us.
18 posted on 09/17/2006 5:21:09 AM PDT by alnick
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Harold Ford has a campaign commercial running right now that is set inside an empty church. If it's just a set, that's one thing, but if an active church allowed him to use the building for his campaign ad, I think that crosses the line as well.


19 posted on 09/17/2006 5:22:55 AM PDT by alnick
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To: AZConser
Up until recently, under cover of "sans headline reporting" only orthodox and Traditional religions were being persecuted either by law or within the order for speaking freely at the pulpit. Spies from those who wish to usurp traditional religions had missions to attend services and report back. These pastors and priests were punished, economically, and otherwise, from within the liberal church heirarchy. It was considered by many of we who witnessed this, since the 70s: a form of ideologic "cleansing" by those who are against the Full Truth of Scripture.

Liberals in the past few years have posed that all churches in the United States should lose their tax-exempt status. Therefore, allowing all churches to use houses of Worship to become mini-platforms for political positioning. And not be prosecuted thereby.

I disagree fully with you on banning political speech, or any word thereby in a House of Worship. And I disagree on forcing churches, whether liberal or traditional, to lose their tax-exempt status. Or are now, the liberal Democrats fully in Charge of What a church is for, what it does, what it stands for?

No. This liberty shall not be lost.

Liberals fought for and won the McCain-Feingold Act.

And this is just one such repercussion from BAD LAW.

20 posted on 09/17/2006 5:44:10 AM PDT by Alia
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