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School for Scoundrels: NYT Teaches Reporters How to Destroy Records
Newsbusters ^ | September 16 | Al Brown

Posted on 09/17/2006 6:36:22 AM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing

The Fitzpatrick Plame investigation has spurred the New York Times into examining how their reporters conduct themselves. Apparently, the Gray Lady wants her staff to act more like terrorists and drug dealers. Reporters are being told to delete emails, destroy notes, and use disposable cell phones in order to stymie future investigations.

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This is unbelievable!

But I'm not surprised in the least. I'm actually surprised that they haven't been doing this already.

1 posted on 09/17/2006 6:36:23 AM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

And what are their happless victims supposed to do to protect themselves from a drive by media attack that may wreck their lives and ruin their fortunes? Media needs to be more responsible and accountable, not less so.


2 posted on 09/17/2006 6:40:08 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
America's 5th Column tidies up their their lines... in anticipation of an assault.
3 posted on 09/17/2006 6:45:28 AM PDT by johnny7 (“And what's Fonzie like? Come on Yolanda... what's Fonzie like?!”)
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To: ClaireSolt

Ethics training should be required at today's journalism schools. Both before and after you go though the motions of becoming a journalist.


4 posted on 09/17/2006 6:45:29 AM PDT by Halfmanhalfamazing (Linux, the #2 OS. Mac, the #3 OS. That's why Picasa is on Linux and not Mac.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
If a reporter was murdered, while doing an investigation into a corrupt union, good notes left behind may help investigators, bring the union thugs to justice.
5 posted on 09/17/2006 6:49:13 AM PDT by Mark was here (How can they be called "Homeless" if their home is a field?.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
Ethics training should be required at today's journalism schools.

Why?   Snakes can't be taught to walk.

6 posted on 09/17/2006 6:52:47 AM PDT by jigsaw (God Bless Our Wonderful Troops.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
" NYT Teaches Reporters How to Destroy Records"

Well there's nothing like having pride in one's work. Here's a suggestion though. If they are going to get all that education only to destroy what they produce, I suggest they find another line of work.

7 posted on 09/17/2006 6:56:57 AM PDT by Enterprise (Let's not enforce laws that are already on the books, let's just write new laws we won't enforce.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
To actively destroy evidence is an admission that you are aware the acts committed are criminal.

Jail Keller! Jail Pinch!

8 posted on 09/17/2006 6:57:17 AM PDT by Doctor Raoul (New York Times? Get a rope!)
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To: jigsaw

Maybe they should contact that Sandy Berger guy who stuffed top secret info in his socks. I'm sure he knows how to destroy important papers.


9 posted on 09/17/2006 6:57:22 AM PDT by xxyyxx
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To: jigsaw
I think if they destroy all their source material, then they should be sued for libel. If they don't have source documents, obviously they made it all up.
10 posted on 09/17/2006 6:57:35 AM PDT by Shimmer128 ( aloha ia, always)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
I would imagine that their former handlers in the KGB could provide more trade-craft techniques for our intrepid journalists. Subversion, treason and sedition has as many tricks as practioners.
11 posted on 09/17/2006 7:00:05 AM PDT by WorkingClassFilth (Ever learning . . .)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
Image hosted by Photobucket.com

do I really have to say it???
12 posted on 09/17/2006 7:00:42 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: ClaireSolt
And what are their happless victims supposed to do to protect themselves from a drive by media attack that may wreck their lives and ruin their fortunes? Media needs to be more responsible and accountable, not less so.

Tell them to go pound sand when they want statements or interviews...or DEMAND accountability!

Stop buying their papers, and boycott the living dailights out of their advertizers until they show responsibility.

13 posted on 09/17/2006 7:01:20 AM PDT by sirchtruth (No one has the RIGHT not to be offended...)
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To: Shimmer128
The only difference between an unnamed source and an imaginary friend is the credibility of the journalist. Considering the NYT used to have a guy on the payroll and make things up about actions in another state (Jason Blair?), being on the NYT payroll is not a good place to have any credibility anyway.
14 posted on 09/17/2006 7:01:31 AM PDT by Bernard ("America is not what's wrong with the world": Donald Rumsfeld)
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To: Bernard

the supposed integrity of the journalist. They are right down there with used car salesmen, in my book!!


15 posted on 09/17/2006 7:05:04 AM PDT by Shimmer128 ( aloha ia, always)
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To: Mark was here
If a reporter was murdered, while doing an investigation into a corrupt union, good notes left behind may help investigators, bring the union thugs to justice.

Very hypothetical example. Communists, as thugs, don't investigate union thugs. Communism is not about economics. It never has been. It's purely about fascist power, just the opposite of their proclaimed ideal, anarchy.

16 posted on 09/17/2006 7:16:36 AM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The only good Mullah is a dead Mullah. The only good Mosque is the one that used to be there.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

True but, realize where and who the ethics courses would be taught by; the same Leftwing Socialist Loons at the same UberLiberal University.

So where are they supposed to get Ethics? They should have gotten it at Home, Church, Sunday School, in Boy Scouts/Girl Scouts from the time they were born because waiting to teach them ethics until the college years is no good and it won't take.


17 posted on 09/17/2006 7:24:29 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
"Truth for its own sake be damned!"
~The Mainstream Newsmedia~
(Also Known as The Ministry of Propaganda of the Democrat Party)

18 posted on 09/17/2006 7:26:33 AM PDT by Savage Beast ( 9/11 was never repeated thanks to President George W. Bush.)
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To: Shimmer128

If they don't have source documents, obviously they made it all up.

To NYT. What proof do you have that you actually talked to an anonymous source at_______?

NYT response: Ummm, well, it depends on the meaning of the word proof. I mean, we printed it so that's proof, isn't it?

19 posted on 09/17/2006 7:26:41 AM PDT by Zon (Honesty outlives the lie, spin and deception -- It always has -- It always will.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
Reporters are being told to delete emails, destroy notes, and use disposable cell phones in order to stymie future investigations.

For those who still find the MSM credible and sincere.

20 posted on 09/17/2006 7:36:47 AM PDT by EGPWS
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
What I get out of this is that the NY Slimes wants to became a 'legitimate' version of ScrappleFace.

(Notes. Notes? What notes? We just make this sh*t up.)

21 posted on 09/17/2006 7:51:00 AM PDT by Condor51 ("Alot" is NOT a word and doesn't mean "many". It is 'a lot', two separate words.)
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To: ClaireSolt
The media will only hold itself as responsible and accountable as their customers demand. As a Trucker, I travel across the country and place a little yellow dot label on each machine owned by the "yellow" press. So if you see a little yellow dot posted on the top of a machine, be aware, before you buy it, you are wasting your money. You might as well purchase the National Enquirer, or Workers Weekly World. The factual integrity of both will be similar.

i.e., don't waste your money.
22 posted on 09/17/2006 7:55:24 AM PDT by MCCRon58 (A man unwilling to fight for freedom and liberty, deserve neither. (Ain't much of a man, either))
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To: Savage Beast
Image hosted by Photobucket.com truth is dead. TRUTHYNESS is what counts now...
23 posted on 09/17/2006 7:59:19 AM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist ©®)
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To: SandRat

Totally agree. I was in a management meeting where the consultant suggested ethics training for managers. I said "Wouldn't it be easier to just promote people we knew who were ethical." The room got quiet and we moved on.


24 posted on 09/17/2006 7:59:19 AM PDT by osideplanner
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To: Condor51
>"What I get out of this is that the NY Slimes wants to became a 'legitimate' version of ScrappleFace."

No way! Scrappleface is actually believeable if you dont look at the source!

25 posted on 09/17/2006 7:59:22 AM PDT by rawcatslyentist (If a monkey bangs away at a typewriter twice a week for ten years it could write an M. Dowd column.)
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To: Abram; albertp; AlexandriaDuke; Allosaurs_r_us; Americanwolf; Americanwolfsbrother; Annie03; ...
How are they still even in business? Even new york ultra lib subscribers have to be about fed up with the old grey whore right about now

Libertarian ping.To be added or removed from my ping list freepmail me or post a message here

26 posted on 09/17/2006 8:18:30 AM PDT by freepatriot32 (Holding you head high & voting Libertarian is better then holding your nose and voting republican)
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To: EGPWS; Halfmanhalfamazing
There is an opportunity here. An internet-based news service that is predicated on transparency and fact-checking, with multiple levels of story complexity available, plus the ability for readers to add their own investigative findings (also transparently), could be well received.

On another level, the time has come to demand that all news stories, and editorials, be accompanied by conflict of interest statements (e.g. the reporter or editorialist discloses that he/she has donated to the DNC, ACLU etc.). This is required now in biomedical research. Why should it not be required for the news media? Bias is bias.

If a physician can't provide unbiased medical care because he/she received a pen from a drug company, why should it be assumed that a reporter that gives thousands of dollars to the democratic party can report without bias on political issues? The time has come for sweeping changes. The future of our country and liberty depend upon it.
27 posted on 09/17/2006 8:19:14 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: Enterprise
I suggest they find another line of work.

What evidence suggests that any of these people are even capable of being productive members of society in other endeavors?

28 posted on 09/17/2006 8:21:51 AM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s...you weren't really there.)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle
Why should it not be required for the news media? Bias is bias.

Because the MSM doesn't want their bias known to those who lack the ability to see the bias and will use the 1st amendment to support their biased reporting.

29 posted on 09/17/2006 8:23:58 AM PDT by EGPWS
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

The New York "Slimes", what a rag! Their cred dried up and blew away in the fading years of the Clinton administration. Nasty old woodpulp media, even the fish resent it.


30 posted on 09/17/2006 8:39:42 AM PDT by NaughtiusMaximus (If DemonRATS are elected they are going to kill Christmas.)
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To: jigsaw
Snakes can't be taught to walk.

Thanks for the new tagline.

31 posted on 09/17/2006 9:11:12 AM PDT by r-q-tek86 (Snakes can't be taught to walk.)
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To: sirchtruth

DEMAND accountability. They are immune. Haven't you noticed? And good luck, if you try to sue.


32 posted on 09/17/2006 9:29:08 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Do you favor the brand of ethics that condones doing whatever one chooses?


33 posted on 09/17/2006 9:30:25 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (Have you have gotten mixed up in a mish-masher?)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
The answer to any question about any Washington scandal from now on is, "Richard Armitage."

Who leaked this? Richard Armitage.

Who hired Craig Livingstone? Richard Armitage.

Who knows what evil lurks in the hearts of men? Richard Armitage. (Wait a minute - different fictional line.)

34 posted on 09/17/2006 9:49:04 AM PDT by Bernard ("America is not what's wrong with the world": Donald Rumsfeld)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
This is unbelievable!
Just put it in perspective.

"If I allowed my honest opinions to appear in one issue of my paper, before twenty-four hours my occupation would be gone. The business of the journalist is to destroy the truth; to lie outright; to pervert; to vilify; to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and to sell the country for his daily bread. You know it and I know it and what folly is this toasting an independent press. We are the tools and vassals of the rich men behind the scenes. We are the jumping jacks, they pull the strings and we dance. Our talents, our possibilities and our lives are all the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes. " - John Swinton, the former Chief of Staff at the New York Times, called "The Dean of His Profession" by other newsmen, when asked to give a toast before the prestigious New York Press Club.
35 posted on 09/17/2006 10:34:58 AM PDT by mugs99 (Don't take life too seriously, you won't get out alive.)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing; Timesink; martin_fierro; reformed_democrat; Loyalist; =Intervention=; ...
Media Shenanigans ping!

"Apparently, the Gray Lady wants her staff to act more like terrorists and drug dealers".

So what's new? ;-)

36 posted on 09/17/2006 5:19:03 PM PDT by an amused spectator (Hezbollah: Habitat for Humanity with an attitude)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing
Reporters are being told to delete emails

One SEC complaint will put the NYT Co. into sheer hell if this is true.

37 posted on 09/17/2006 5:35:45 PM PDT by Dont Mention the War (This tagline is false.)
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38 posted on 09/17/2006 6:44:09 PM PDT by devolve
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing

Lessons learned from the Billyblythe Clinton School of Cheats...Professor Sandy Burger, Lecturer.

More of the fish rotting from the head down...


39 posted on 09/17/2006 6:49:57 PM PDT by bannie (HILLARY: Not all perversions are sexual.)
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To: devolve; ntnychik; PhilDragoo; bitt; Smartass; dixiechick2000; Boazo
Beautiful post devolve!


40 posted on 09/17/2006 6:50:33 PM PDT by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: potlatch; holdonnow; Laura_Ingraham
Michelle Malkin, Powerline, and LGF are all over this now

41 posted on 09/17/2006 7:19:00 PM PDT by devolve
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To: devolve
how do you know?

42 posted on 09/17/2006 7:23:47 PM PDT by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: potlatch
just guessing

43 posted on 09/17/2006 7:26:12 PM PDT by devolve
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To: devolve
LOL

44 posted on 09/17/2006 7:30:29 PM PDT by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: potlatch
Yes, it's unbelievable that the NY-Slimes would advise their staff and employees how to work around the law to confound future investigations.   Yet, expect our government to toe the line on torture and how to defend America.   The Gray Lady should be led off in shackles, and the doors padlocked for the duration of the war on terror, which could be forever.


 

45 posted on 09/17/2006 7:38:13 PM PDT by Smartass (The stars rule men but God rules the stars)
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To: Smartass; devolve

They are starting to cut their own throat now!


46 posted on 09/17/2006 7:44:33 PM PDT by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: potlatch
I'm listening to Matt Drudge, and he stated there may be a congressional investigation coming up against the NYT.   In my opine, why, why overdue.

 

47 posted on 09/17/2006 7:58:00 PM PDT by Smartass (The stars rule men but God rules the stars)
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To: Smartass

I agree with you.


48 posted on 09/17/2006 8:00:32 PM PDT by potlatch (Does a clean house indicate that there is a broken computer in it?)
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To: Halfmanhalfamazing; an amused spectator
Interesting development. Ran across this tidbit from the original New York Observer ARTICLE(which BTW I thought was preferable to second hand articles):

“One lesson we’ve learned over the past year or two is that you don’t have confidential information in e-mail unless it is sent to a lawyer, too,” said Time Inc. managing editor Jim Kelly, who was managing editor of Time magazine when Mr. Cooper was there.

Can anyone say "attorney - client privelege"?

49 posted on 09/17/2006 10:19:22 PM PDT by ForGod'sSake (ABCNNBCBS: An enemy at the gates is less formidable, for he is known and carries his banner openly.)
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To: devolve; potlatch

HA!

You two are on a roll!
I love it! ;o)


50 posted on 09/17/2006 10:31:26 PM PDT by dixiechick2000 (There ought to be one day-- just one-- when there is open season on senators. ~~ Will Rogers)
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