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Islamists at Westminster Cathedral
LGF ^ | Sept 17, 2006

Posted on 09/17/2006 2:27:05 PM PDT by jdm

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To: Wings-n-Wind
Why does their "god".... and/or their god's name... or their god's "prophet" need to be defended at all...

An excellent point. Normally, God defends the believers, not the reverse. And defending can mean giving them the strength to go through martyrdom and be sacrificed for the truth. Not among Muslims, though, who have such a feeble god it needs to be "defended" by veiled nutcases.

51 posted on 09/17/2006 3:03:05 PM PDT by livius
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To: squarebarb

Oh, I see - they had their backs to the cathedral and were facing the press! Thanks for the clarification.


52 posted on 09/17/2006 3:04:56 PM PDT by livius
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To: jdm
Good thing it's a religion of peace. Think of what they'd say otherwise.

/sarcasm

53 posted on 09/17/2006 3:05:33 PM PDT by mombonn (God is looking for spiritual fruit, not religious nuts.)
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To: Michael Goldsberry; jdm; livius
To bless Mohamed who's already there? I don't think so.

Medieval and Renaissance Christian and secular artists had no religious restrictions regarding depictions of Mohammed, and were free to show his face and body in their entirety.


This picture is of an early Renaissance fresco in Bologna's Church of San Petronio, created by Giovanni da Modena and depicting Mohammed being tortured in Hell.


The fresco is in an inaccessible part of the church and is now only visible at an angle from a distance; this old black-and-white image is one of the few official photos ever taken that shows a straight frontal view of the figures.

54 posted on 09/17/2006 3:06:22 PM PDT by NYer ("That which is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbor. That is the whole Torah." Hillel)
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To: jdm
The reason I ask about the legality is that places in the States have bans.

This is NYC's, last I knew anyway :)

Anti-Mask: New York Penal Law § 240.35(4)

SUMMARY New York’s anti-mask law criminalizes the wearing of masks or disguises by three or more persons in a public place unless done in connection with a “masquerade party or like entertainment,” after obtaining a permit to wear masks from the police or other appropriate authorities. The courts have defined “like entertainment” as “social gatherings, dances, andperformances that involve masks or costumes,” Under the current law, wearing a bandana tied around one’s face falls within the scope of the mask prohibition. The courts have held that the anti-mask law furthers the important governmental interest of deterring violence and facilitating the apprehension of wrong-doers who seek to hide theiridentity. Since 2001, both the New York City Criminal Court and the Second Circuit Court of Appeals have held that the anti-mask law is not overly broad or facially unconstitutional.Moreover, both courts have rejected all case-specific challenges that the law was unconstitutional “as applied.”....

55 posted on 09/17/2006 3:06:39 PM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: NYer

"What's with the masks? Why do Muslim men cover their faces? Is this the GQ version of a male burqah?"

Probably because they arrested a bunch of the brats last time. Funny how they're calling others evil when they're hiding from the law.


56 posted on 09/17/2006 3:07:00 PM PDT by CheyennePress
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To: NYer

"What's with the masks? Why do Muslim men cover their faces?"

Standard police tactics for dealing with this kind of protest is to avoid piling in and escalating things unless necessary. But they will get everything on film and anyone identified as having committed an offence will get a '4am knock' in a few days time.


57 posted on 09/17/2006 3:08:05 PM PDT by Canard
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To: jdm

58 posted on 09/17/2006 3:09:33 PM PDT by mjp
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To: jdm
Korinamils can't tell one Christian from another.

All Christians need to set their differences aside with one another, Scimitar won't distinguish denominations.
59 posted on 09/17/2006 3:10:01 PM PDT by TASMANIANRED (The Internet is the samizdat of liberty..)
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To: lightman
Earlier than 1979, try just after the Revolution:
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=22314

America's First War on Terror By Andrew G. Bostom FrontPageMagazine.com | May 4, 2006

60 posted on 09/17/2006 3:10:35 PM PDT by 22cal (Forgiven, not perfected)
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To: jdm

I wonder if in a thousand years from now the general public buys into the propaganda lies that the Catholic church started a holy crusade against the muslims in the 21st century.


61 posted on 09/17/2006 3:11:24 PM PDT by dotnetfellow
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To: jdm

And no one shot them?


62 posted on 09/17/2006 3:12:01 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: Pyro7480

Okay, so I think my picture must be Westminster Abbey.

Hey, I had three days in London and I was taking pictures of anything that looked, well, old, and important.


63 posted on 09/17/2006 3:12:19 PM PDT by squarebarb
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To: jdm

One of the signs said "Trinity of Evil: Bush, Blair, and the Pope." While I certainly don't have any inflated opinion of my own worth, whoever wrote that sign can add me to the roster. If they're taking a vote, I'd like to see Islam crushed too.


64 posted on 09/17/2006 3:12:19 PM PDT by IronJack (ALL)
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To: Howie66; jdm
If Christians gathered with signs and masked faces in front of mosques and loudly, acidly protested the words and actions of Islamo-facists around the world, how long before such protests became armed conflicts?

They can "disrepect" Christian places of worship all they please and public figures apologize and hedge and explain what they really meant. But let Christians do the same -- you know it would get bloody quick.

65 posted on 09/17/2006 3:13:06 PM PDT by Finny (God continue to Bless President G.W. Bush with wisdom, popularity, safety and success.)
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To: muawiyah


Not the most beautiful one in London, though I believe it was more recently built (which would explain that).

I used to walk by here regularly when I lived in London. It infuriates me to see these goons there. They have NO right to be acting like this in England. Very frustrating.
66 posted on 09/17/2006 3:13:24 PM PDT by CheyennePress
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To: jdm

Wait a minute,I thought that Islam was"The Religion of Peace"?They get accused of VIOLENCE and how do they react??VIOLENCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


67 posted on 09/17/2006 3:13:40 PM PDT by bandleader
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To: muawiyah
All Moslems live in fear that the neighbors will detect some deviation in their adherence to the various heathen ceremonies required by their local mullahs and then kill them for it.

Sounds a lot like how the Commies and the Cubans operate...except with a sword in hand.

68 posted on 09/17/2006 3:14:15 PM PDT by plangent
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To: jdm

How cool is that ... they get to protest. Love FREEDOM!


69 posted on 09/17/2006 3:14:34 PM PDT by zeaal (SPREAD TRUTH!)
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To: jdm

The West had better open the eyes a bit wider and see that the Islamic threat is a far greater than realized . The Dutch stated they were tired of being tolerant to an intolerant people then deported a shitload of them. Islam is not compatible with the civilized world.....


70 posted on 09/17/2006 3:15:01 PM PDT by Wraith (To have peace prepare for War.)
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To: festus

No,we'll BEHEAD anyone who accuses us of VIOLENCE!!!!!!!!!!


71 posted on 09/17/2006 3:15:17 PM PDT by bandleader
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To: IronJack
I'd like to see Islam crushed too.

You're on a roster alright. (See my profile.)

72 posted on 09/17/2006 3:15:51 PM PDT by Michael Goldsberry (Lt. Bruce C. Fryar USN 01-02-70 Laos)
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To: Deo volente
slow motion suicide

The Brits should follow Australia's attitude towards unhappy muslims, and we might learn from Australia too.

Muslims who want to live under Islamic Sharia law were told on Wednesday to get out of Australia, as the government targeted radicals in a bid to head off potential error attacks.

A day after a group of mainstream Muslim leaders pledged loyalty to Australia and her Queen at a special meeting with Prime Minister John Howard, he and his Ministers made it clear that extremists would face a crackdown. Treasurer Peter Costello, seen as heir apparent to Howard, hinted that some radical clerics could be asked to leave the country if they did not accept that Australia was a secular state, and its laws were made by parliament. "If those are not your values, if you want a country which has Sharia law or a theocratic state, then Australia is not for you," he said on national television.

"I'd be saying to clerics who are teaching that there are two laws governing people in Australia: one the Australian law and another the Islamic law, that is false. If you can't agree with parliamentary law, independent courts, democracy, and would prefer Sharia law and have the opportunity to go to another country, which practices it, perhaps, then, that's a better option," Costello said.

Asked whether he meant radical clerics would be forced to leave, he said those with dual citizenship could possibly be asked to move to the other country. Education Minister Brendan Nelson later told reporters that Muslims who did not want to accept local values should "clear off. Basically people who don't want to be Australians, and who don't want to live by Australian values and understand them, well then, they can basically clear off," he said.

Separately, Howard angered some Australian Muslims on Wednesday by saying he supported spy agencies monitoring the nation's mosques quote: "IMMIGRANTS, NOT AUSTRALIANS, MUST ADAPT. Take It Or Leave it. I am tired of this nation worrying about whether we are offending some individual or their culture. Since the terrorist attacks on Bali, we have experienced a surge in patriotism by the majority of Australians."

"However, the dust from the attacks had barely settled when the politically correct' crowd began complaining about the possibility that our patriotism was offending others. I am not against immigration, nor do I hold a grudge against anyone who is seeking a better life by coming to Australia." "However, there are a few things that those who have recently come to our country, and apparently some born here, need to understand." "This idea of Australia being a multicultural community has served only to dilute our sovereignty and our national identity. As Australians, we have our own culture, our own society, our own language and our own lifestyle." "This culture has been developed over two centuries of struggles, trials and victories by millions of men and women who have sought freedom"

"We speak mainly ENGLISH, not Spanish, Lebanese, Arabic, Chinese, Japanese, Russian, or any other language. Therefore, if you wish to become part of our society, Learn the language!"

"Most Australians believe in God. This is not some Christian, right; > wing, political push, but a fact, because Christian men and women, on Christian principles, founded this nation, and this is clearly documented. It is certainly appropriate to display it on the walls of our schools. If God offends you, then I suggest you consider another part of the world as your new home, because God is part of our culture."

"We will accept your beliefs, and will not question why. All we ask is that you accept ours, and live in harmony and peaceful enjoyment with us." "If the Southern Cross offends you, or you don't like " A Fair Go," then you should seriously consider a move to another part of this planet.

We are happy with our culture and have no desire to change, and we really don't care how you did things where you came from. By all means, keep your culture, but do not force it on others.

"This is OUR COUNTRY, OUR LAND, and OUR LIFESTYLE, and we will allow you every opportunity to enjoy all this. But once you are done complaining, whining, and griping about Our Flag, Our Pledge, Our Christian beliefs, or Our Way of Life, I highly encourage you take advantage of one other great Australian freedom, 'THE RIGHT TO LEAVE.'" "If you aren't happy here then LEAVE. We didn't force you to come here. You asked to be here. So accept the country YOU accepted."

73 posted on 09/17/2006 3:16:36 PM PDT by janetgreen
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To: NYer; SJackson

incoming


74 posted on 09/17/2006 3:16:37 PM PDT by Jaded (does it really need a sarcasm tag?)
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To: jdm

I know I say it every time but: it should be against the law (of every land) to assemble/protest with masks on one's face!


75 posted on 09/17/2006 3:17:25 PM PDT by pepperdog
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To: lightman

Yes,and instead of freeing our embassy personnel,Jimmy CawTah had us tie"yellow ribbons"on trees(not to mention donning cardigans,and turning down the thermostat).We should have TURNED UP THE HEAT ON THESE A**HOLES INSTEAD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


76 posted on 09/17/2006 3:18:42 PM PDT by bandleader
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To: HHKrepublican_2

Just what we need moose-limbs after Protestants. They are too stupid to understand that we're not Catholic. Capital C


77 posted on 09/17/2006 3:19:23 PM PDT by STD (Rough Sailing Directly Ahead)
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To: NYer

" What's with the masks? Why do Muslim men cover their faces? Is this the GQ version of a male burqah?"

Probably because they arrested a lot of them last time. They're hiding from being identified. Cowards. They have to hide from the law while they accuse the Pope of being evil.


78 posted on 09/17/2006 3:19:32 PM PDT by CheyennePress
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To: NYer

THEY ARE MISERABLE COWARDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


79 posted on 09/17/2006 3:19:34 PM PDT by bandleader
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To: NYer
What's with the masks? Why do Muslim men cover their faces? Is this the GQ version of a male burqah?

Tell me, friend, if YOU had a face like THIS, wouldn't you cover it?

uglymuslimboy

Truly the kind of face only a mother could love - a mother whose entire face was covered with a burkha and veil!

Maybe Ann Coulter was right: "Invade their countries; kill their leaders; convert them all to Christianity."

On the other hand, even the high school Confirmation Class on its worst night doesn't look THIS bad!

80 posted on 09/17/2006 3:19:50 PM PDT by TaxachusettsMan
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To: jdm

Now are these the MODERATE Muslims we keep HEARING about? HMMMM.


81 posted on 09/17/2006 3:20:49 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: jdm

This report will be suppressed by the MSM.

(But you know that already.)


82 posted on 09/17/2006 3:21:24 PM PDT by aculeus
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To: Michael Goldsberry
You're on a roster alright.

And proud of the company I'm keeping there.

83 posted on 09/17/2006 3:21:31 PM PDT by IronJack (ALL)
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To: jdm

I want to strangle these pieces of shit to death. Muslims are evil vermin.


84 posted on 09/17/2006 3:21:42 PM PDT by montag813
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To: jdm

I could just imagine the response if non-muslims protested outside a mosque with signs that said. "May God curse mohammed". The rioting that would ensue would be unbelievable. They do this because they know we won't react to them like they would to us. We need to surprise them some day.


85 posted on 09/17/2006 3:22:02 PM PDT by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: jdm
I think that we need to start demonstrating in front of those snakepits called "mosques".We must use signs similar to theirs....like "behead those who insult Christianity" and "to hell with mohammed".

I'm serious about this.If we pick the right "mosques",ones that are known to be attended by the worst of the "islamic" scum,riots will result so doing this could be very dangerous.

Opinions,anyone?

86 posted on 09/17/2006 3:22:16 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative ("An empty limousine pulled up and Hillary Clinton got out")
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To: wolficatZ

My sentiments exactly.


87 posted on 09/17/2006 3:22:36 PM PDT by GOP Poet
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To: jdm

By the way, someone should mention to one of the sign holders that Jesus isn't about to "rise" any sword against anyone. Not even HE can make a transitive verb of "rise."


88 posted on 09/17/2006 3:22:55 PM PDT by IronJack (ALL)
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To: Deo volente

I agree.While I think that Demonrat Icon(FDR)was wrong to put the Nisei at places like Manzanar,I think these A**HOLES should be rounded up and DEPORTED!!!!!!!!!


89 posted on 09/17/2006 3:23:01 PM PDT by bandleader
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To: STD

Westminster Cathedral is Roman Catholic.


90 posted on 09/17/2006 3:23:04 PM PDT by Canard
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To: jdm

Amen!


91 posted on 09/17/2006 3:23:39 PM PDT by NordP (America: There are more Patriots than Punks!)
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To: jdm
WHERE ARE THE "SIEG HEIL" BRITISH SOCCER HOOLIGANS?

HOW CAN SUCH SIGNS APPEAR IN ENGLAND WITHOUT A MOB OF ANGRY CHRISTIANS BEATING THEM TO DEATH?

92 posted on 09/17/2006 3:23:47 PM PDT by montag813
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To: livius

It's a beautiful Cathedral.I have passed it many times on my way to(or from)Southampton.


93 posted on 09/17/2006 3:24:23 PM PDT by bandleader
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To: Gay State Conservative

Every mosque in the west should be picketed IMO. Signs like "only muslims can stop terrorism" "stop hiding behind israel".....


94 posted on 09/17/2006 3:24:42 PM PDT by tkathy (Einstein: Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance.)
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To: jdm

The sign one of them is holding that says "Jesus will Rise the Sword of Islam" is revolting! Jesus said that those that live by the sword will die by the sword. This means YOU radical Islam!


95 posted on 09/17/2006 3:25:07 PM PDT by FJ290
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To: montag813

"WHERE ARE THE "SIEG HEIL" BRITISH SOCCER HOOLIGANS?"

On a Sunday morning? In bed, nursing hangovers!


96 posted on 09/17/2006 3:25:11 PM PDT by Canard
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To: Fiddlstix

Yah...we weren't gonna make this re-ligious....but since you wanna....we WILL. (<---use John Wayne accent)


97 posted on 09/17/2006 3:25:11 PM PDT by NordP (America: There are more Patriots than Punks!)
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To: montag813
HOW CAN SUCH SIGNS APPEAR IN ENGLAND WITHOUT A MOB OF ANGRY CHRISTIANS BEATING THEM TO DEATH?

Liberal and weak clergy blamed for empty pews

Just a theory.

98 posted on 09/17/2006 3:25:40 PM PDT by mewzilla (Property must be secured or liberty cannot exist. John Adams)
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To: pepperdog

No one should be covering their face, ugly though they must be.


99 posted on 09/17/2006 3:25:56 PM PDT by tkathy (Einstein: Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance.)
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To: wolficatZ

When do we START!I'm getting on(56),but I'm willing to do my part(and I'm a VERY good shot)!!!!!!!!!!!!!


100 posted on 09/17/2006 3:26:06 PM PDT by bandleader
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