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Pope: "Remarks not my views"
Sky News ^ | 17 Sep 06 | Sky News

Posted on 09/17/2006 5:49:41 PM PDT by RightOnTheLeftCoast

'Remarks Not My Views'

Updated: 18:52, Sunday September 17, 2006

The Pope has appeared in public to say the remarks he made about Islam which sparked fury across the Muslim world did not in any way reflect his personal views.

Benedict XVI had been under pressure to make a personal apology following a controversial speech he made in Germany on Tuesday.

In the Somalian capital Mogadishu an Italian nun was attacked and killed by gunmen. Sources said there was a very high possibility the incident was linked to the speech.

The Pope told a crowd at his summer retreat at Castle Gandolfo, ltaly, he was "very upset and sorry" his remarks had caused such a reaction.

"This was a citation from a medieval text which doesn't express in any way whatsoever my personal opinion," he said.

He said the speech had been an "invitation to... frank and sincere dialogue".

In it, he referred to criticism of the Prophet Mohammed by a 14th-century Byzantine emperor.

The passage said everything Mohammed brought was evil "such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached".

Using the terms "jihad" and "holy war", the Pope said violence was "incompatible with the nature of God".

Protests in Pakistan Initially Egypt's Muslim Brotherhood said the apology was sufficient.

"We consider that the new statements represent a retreat from what went before. We can consider them a sufficient apology, even if we had wanted the Pope to outline his ideas and vision of Islam," said deputy leader Mohammed Habib.

However, later the brotherhood appeared to change its mind and said the Pope had not made a "clear" apology.

The Muslim Council of Britain welcomed the Pope's explanation.

A spokesman said: "We very much welcome the Pope's statement in which he made it clear that his own views do not in any way accord with those of the 14th century emperor.

"This is a very important clarification that we had been seeking. Had this caveat been included in the Pope's original speech it may have prevented this controversy in the first place."

Demonstrations by Muslims around the world saw effigies of the Pope burned and threw doubt over the his planned visit to Turkey in November, with the country's Prime Minister insisting the comments must be withdrawn.

It was also revealed the national security level in Italy had been stepped up in the wake of threats to the pontiff from Islamic groups.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Philosophy; War on Terror
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How dissapointing.
1 posted on 09/17/2006 5:49:44 PM PDT by RightOnTheLeftCoast
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast

I agree.

What is it going to take? I'm getting tired of our leaders letting us down when it comes to these bullies.


2 posted on 09/17/2006 5:51:30 PM PDT by vrwcagent0498 (Mark Levin and Ann Coulter are my patron saints.)
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3 posted on 09/17/2006 5:53:16 PM PDT by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast

Sounds like Kerry......damn.


4 posted on 09/17/2006 5:53:55 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Our troops will send all of the worlds terrorists to hell in a handbasket with no virgins!)
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast
The Pope should have affirmed them and added no less an authority than than Thomas Aquinas exposed the truth about Islam in his Summa Contra Gentiles. Then we all could have sat back to watch the fireworks!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

5 posted on 09/17/2006 5:54:02 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: vrwcagent0498

We better have your patron saints run for office : )


6 posted on 09/17/2006 5:54:46 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Our troops will send all of the worlds terrorists to hell in a handbasket with no virgins!)
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To: vrwcagent0498

I would say the reaction show his remarks are valid... churches burning... shooting nuns. come on leaders lets fight these people.


7 posted on 09/17/2006 5:54:51 PM PDT by RolandBurnam (para mi tagline in ess spanyol markay dose)
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast
Pope makes remarks about violence and religion, with specific references to Islam.

Media and Muslims mischaracterize his speech and attack him.

Pope takes nothing back, but says he's sorry peoples' feelings were hurt, and that wasn't the point.

"Conservatives" mischaracterize his speech and attack him.

8 posted on 09/17/2006 5:54:52 PM PDT by JohnnyZ ("I respect and will protect a woman's right to choose" -- Mitt Romney, April 2002)
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9 posted on 09/17/2006 5:54:56 PM PDT by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: goldstategop

real disappointing


10 posted on 09/17/2006 5:55:27 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Our troops will send all of the worlds terrorists to hell in a handbasket with no virgins!)
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast

Pope Benedict XVI caved. I am too am very disappointed.


11 posted on 09/17/2006 5:55:49 PM PDT by stm (Katherine Harris for US Senate!)
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To: JohnnyZ

12 posted on 09/17/2006 5:56:02 PM PDT by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: The Pope

"This was a citation from a medieval text which doesn't express in any way whatsoever my personal opinion,"

What do you disagree with?


13 posted on 09/17/2006 5:56:24 PM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast

I'm not Catholic, and I don't get it. If they weren't his personal views, then why did he say anything?


14 posted on 09/17/2006 5:56:36 PM PDT by SnarlinCubBear (Save the Earth - it's the only planet with chocolate)
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I'm not Catholic, and I don't get it. If they weren't his personal views, then why did he say anything?

Good point.

Maybe it was a trial balloon.

15 posted on 09/17/2006 5:58:57 PM PDT by evad (sarcasm may be introduced at any moment of any post)
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To: JohnnyZ

Good summary. I hope you realize that you are one of the few that have accurately understood both the comments and the controversy. I am impressed with your ability to summarize all of it in just 3 sentences.


16 posted on 09/17/2006 5:59:12 PM PDT by ga medic
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To: vrwcagent0498

Uh, yeah...
C'mon... cut me a break...


17 posted on 09/17/2006 6:00:07 PM PDT by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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To: JohnnyZ

I agree with you. The Pope, as far as I can tell, never said what his personal opinion is.


18 posted on 09/17/2006 6:00:22 PM PDT by BlueAngel
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast
Stop apologizing and proclaim a crusade!


19 posted on 09/17/2006 6:01:03 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: vrwcagent0498; RightOnTheLeftCoast

Well, they weren't his views. Maybe his views are even worse - he didn't say what they were.

One of the Muzzie groups has withdrawn their "acceptance" of this supposed apology, btw, because once they read it, they realized he wasn't apologizing for anything, except that he was sorry they had gotten upset. LOL! A truly Clintonesque "apology."


20 posted on 09/17/2006 6:01:51 PM PDT by livius
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