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How dissapointing.
1 posted on 09/17/2006 5:49:44 PM PDT by RightOnTheLeftCoast
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To: RightOnTheLeftCoast

I agree.

What is it going to take? I'm getting tired of our leaders letting us down when it comes to these bullies.


2 posted on 09/17/2006 5:51:30 PM PDT by vrwcagent0498 (Mark Levin and Ann Coulter are my patron saints.)
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3 posted on 09/17/2006 5:53:16 PM PDT by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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Sounds like Kerry......damn.


4 posted on 09/17/2006 5:53:55 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (Our troops will send all of the worlds terrorists to hell in a handbasket with no virgins!)
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The Pope should have affirmed them and added no less an authority than than Thomas Aquinas exposed the truth about Islam in his Summa Contra Gentiles. Then we all could have sat back to watch the fireworks!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

5 posted on 09/17/2006 5:54:02 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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Pope makes remarks about violence and religion, with specific references to Islam.

Media and Muslims mischaracterize his speech and attack him.

Pope takes nothing back, but says he's sorry peoples' feelings were hurt, and that wasn't the point.

"Conservatives" mischaracterize his speech and attack him.

8 posted on 09/17/2006 5:54:52 PM PDT by JohnnyZ ("I respect and will protect a woman's right to choose" -- Mitt Romney, April 2002)
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9 posted on 09/17/2006 5:54:56 PM PDT by billorites (freepo ergo sum)
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Pope Benedict XVI caved. I am too am very disappointed.


11 posted on 09/17/2006 5:55:49 PM PDT by stm (Katherine Harris for US Senate!)
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"This was a citation from a medieval text which doesn't express in any way whatsoever my personal opinion,"

What do you disagree with?


13 posted on 09/17/2006 5:56:24 PM PDT by I see my hands (_8(|)
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I'm not Catholic, and I don't get it. If they weren't his personal views, then why did he say anything?


14 posted on 09/17/2006 5:56:36 PM PDT by SnarlinCubBear (Save the Earth - it's the only planet with chocolate)
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Stop apologizing and proclaim a crusade!


19 posted on 09/17/2006 6:01:03 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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So, if the Pope does not "in any way" agree with what he quoted, what DOES he believe?


21 posted on 09/17/2006 6:02:27 PM PDT by Zman516 ("Allah" is Satan, actually.)
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Well, they have won yet again. How they must laugh at all of us.


22 posted on 09/17/2006 6:05:00 PM PDT by ladyinred
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"This was a citation from a medieval text which doesn't express in any way whatsoever my personal opinion," he said."

Does he say what his personal opinion is? No.

24 posted on 09/17/2006 6:07:58 PM PDT by sageb1 (This is the Final Crusade. There are only 2 sides. Pick one.)
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If you read the entire argument the Pope presented, the 14th century sentence he quoted was a premise to be argued with, not accepted at face value. It was posited to elicit counterarguments. The Pope even quoted the pre-jihad Mohammed, who was much more prone to tolerance of other religions (because he was in a position of weakness) to give Muslims a hint at how they might challenge it.

He did not cave in or give ground. He basically said that Islam has internal inconsistencies on the subject of using violence to spread its religion. He did not say how he personally has sifted these inconsistencies.

I encourage everyone to read his original speech. It is linked on this site someplace.


25 posted on 09/17/2006 6:08:00 PM PDT by Puddleglum
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When is the (butt)-kissing going to stop?


27 posted on 09/17/2006 6:11:26 PM PDT by Finalapproach29er (Carter, Reagan, Bush, Clinton, Bush II --> Appeasing Islam for 27 years)
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"Don't hurt me."


28 posted on 09/17/2006 6:12:16 PM PDT by gcruse (http://gcruse.typepad.com)
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Probably be kissing the Koran tomorrow


29 posted on 09/17/2006 6:12:52 PM PDT by uncbob
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The Pope said what he said. I hope the European (Western Empire) leaders are bright enough to understand what the Pope was trying to tell them through this Byzantine Emperor.


32 posted on 09/17/2006 6:17:13 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Those that do not heed the warnings of history....)
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Dear Pope,

No matter what you say or do, Muslims want you dead.


37 posted on 09/17/2006 6:21:58 PM PDT by airborne (Fecal matter is en route to fan! Contact is imminent!)
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It isn't over yet...

I suggest the Pope isn't sorry for telling the truth.

Let's hang tough...the Pope will!

BTW, I'm not Catholic but I believe in this Pope. He won't let us down. Hang tough.

40 posted on 09/17/2006 6:22:31 PM PDT by Dark Skies
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