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Posted on 09/18/2006 7:40:35 AM PDT by freespirited
CAIRO, Egypt — An al-Qaida-linked extremist group warned Pope Benedict XVI on Monday that he and the West were "doomed," as protesters returned to the streets across the Muslim world to demand more of an apology from the pontiff for his remarks about Islam and violence.
ADVERTISEMENT The Mujahedeen Shura Council, an umbrella organization of Sunni Arab extremist groups that includes al-Qaida in Iraq, issued a statement on a Web forum vowing to continue its holy war against the West. The authenticity of the statement could not be independently verified.
The group said Muslims would be victorious and addressed the pope as "the worshipper of the cross" saying "you and the West are doomed as you can see from the defeat in Iraq, Afghanistan, Chechnya and elsewhere. ... We will break up the cross, spill the liquor and impose head tax, then the only thing acceptable is a conversion (to Islam) or (killed by) the sword."
Islam forbids drinking alcohol and requires non-Muslims to pay a head tax to safeguard their lives if conquered by Muslims. They are exempt if they convert to Islam.
In Indian-controlled Kashmir, meanwhile, shops, businesses and schools shut down in response to a strike call by the head of a hard-line Muslim separatist leader to denounce Benedict. For the third day running, people burned tires and shouted "Down with the pope."
Protests also raged in Iraq, where angry demonstrators burned an effigy of the pope in Basra, and in Indonesia, where more than 100 people rallied in front of the heavily guarded Vatican Embassy in Jakarta, waving banners that said the "Pope is building religion on hatred."
The pope on Sunday said he was "deeply sorry" about the angry reaction to his speech last week in which he cited the words of a Byzantine emperor who characterized some of the teachings of Islam's Prophet Muhammad as "evil and inhuman" and referred to spreading Islam "by the sword."
Benedict said the remarks came from a text that didn't reflect his own opinion.
"I hope that this serves to appease hearts and to clarify the true meaning of my address, which in its totality was and is an invitation to frank and sincere dialogue, with great mutual respect," he said during his weekly appearance before pilgrims in Italy.
The statement of regret _ the pope's second in two days _ helped ease some tensions.
In Turkey, where outrage against Benedict's remarks had been swift, Catholic bishops decided Monday that no changes were necessary in his upcoming visit in November _ his first to a Muslim country, Vatican spokesman George Marovic said.
Marovic said the trip was expected to go on as planned, and the bishops had discussed the details of a religious ceremony the pontiff is to lead in Istanbul.
However, State Minister Mehmet Aydin, who oversees the religious affairs in Turkey, said he expected Turkish authorities to cancel the visit if Benedict does not offer a full apology.
"We are expecting the authorities to unilaterally cancel this visit. The pope's coming to Turkey isn't going to foment the uniting of civilizations, but a clash of civilizations," he said.
The secretary-general of the Turkish HUKUK-DER law association submitted a request to the Justice Ministry asking that the pope be arrested upon entering Turkey.
The appeal by Fikret Karabekmez, a former legislator for the banned pro-Islamic Welfare Party, called for Benedict to be tried under several Turkish laws, among them obstruction of freedom of belief, encouraging discrimination based on religion, and inciting religious hatred.
A prosecutor in the ministry will evaluate the request and decide whether to open a case.
Angry reactions also persisted in other corners of the Muslim world, where many demanded more of an apology by the pope than Sunday's statement of regret.
"Muslims have all this while felt oppressed, and the statement by the pope saying he is sorry about the angry reaction is inadequate to calm the anger _ more so because he is the highest leader of the Vatican," Malaysian Foreign Minister Syed Hamid Albar said.
Former Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad said on national television in Pakistan the pope had apparently forgotten it was Christianity that was spread by the sword during the Crusades.
Elsewhere, protesters rallied in the city of Muzaffarabad, in the Pakistani-controlled part of Kashmir. "His apology is not sufficient because he did not say that what he said was wrong," said Uzair Ahmed, from Pasban-e-Hurriyat, a Pakistani political group.
Even in China, where the government exerts tight controls over religious activities, a top religious official said Benedict had insulted the nation's Muslims.
"This has gravely hurt the feelings of the Muslims across the world, including those from China," Chen Guangyuan, president of Islamic Association of China, was quoted as saying in an interview with the Xinhua news agency.
In the Middle East, where Muslims threw firebombs at seven churches in the West Bank and Gaza Strip over the weekend, Christian leaders posted guards outside some churches.
"We are afraid," said Sonia Kobatazi, a Christian Lebanese, after Mass at the Maronite Christian St. George Cathedral in Beirut, Lebanon, where about a dozen policemen carrying automatic weapons stood guard.
Christians _ a minority in the Mideast that varies from nearly 40 percent in Lebanon to tiny communities in the Gulf states _ generally live in peace with the majority Muslims. But relations are sometimes strained and outbreaks of violence have occurred in recent years. Some worry the flap over the pope will lead to a new round.
The protests and violence have stirred up memories of the fury over cartoons that were published in a Danish newspaper of the Prophet Muhammad. Angry demonstrations took place in many countries, and some of the violence was directed at Western targets and Christian churches.
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West Says Islam is Doomed.
How do you say "Bite Me" in Arabic?
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"you and the West are doomed as you can see from the defeat in Iraq, Afghanistan, Chechnya and elsewhere. ...
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Gotta love that guy! He sees the completely empty glass, half full! Another Baghdad Bob.
Ditto
Load up everyone. PPPPP - Proper Preparation Prevent Poor Performance.
This is unbelievable. Imagine if Christians and Jews had this type of reaction every time somebody implied something even half-way critical about those faiths!
This is what happens when you play nice.
They really don't get it. They also make a big deal out of monotheism as if they have a corner on that market.
They have no idea what we'll do to them.
Note to Islam: I am not "submitting" and you are not going to threaten me. We have seen your kind for 1400 years. We KNOW who you are and and what you represent.
It's clear as a bell now to most of us. The Pope says you are violent and you respond with violence.
Islam may look at the West now and see us ripe for the picking. But I see us as just beginning to fight.
You want to take us on? We have centuries of experience in this, Ahmed, and we know how to defend ourselves.
Care to find out?
1 Billion Muslims vs. 2+ billion Christians. Yeah, good luck with that, bitch.
IS there a full-sized map of that? That's hilarious!
No, Islam was spread by the sword. The Crusades were to rescue the Holy Land from murdering, raping barbarian Muslims. And it's high time we launched another Crusade, we need to start calling it what it is because recent events have made it very clear to me that violent fascism IS mainstream Islam.
Come get some.
We say to the muslims extremists, siss on you pister.
Let's just pray that the Vatican takes the necessary precautions and hires lots of top-notch security. He also needs to cancel his trip to Turkey in Oct.
Bookmarked! LOL
I don't think he will. The Apostles did not turn back in the face of danger. The Holy Spirit will guide him.
I guess we'll have to dust off some of the old songs of the Church that are becoming very appropriate again:
Onward, Christian soldiers,
Marching as to war,
With the cross of Jesus going on before,
Christ the royal Master leads against the Foe
Forward into battle,
See His banners go!
Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war,
With the cross of Jesus going on before.
Crowns and thrones may perish,
Kingdoms rise and wane,
But the Church of Jesus constant shall remain.
Gates of Hell can never 'gainst that Church prevail;
We have Christ's own promise, and that cannot fail.
Onward Christian soldiers, marching as to war,
With the cross of Jesus going on before.
(Sabine Baring-Gould, 1864)
So many thousands of pounds of bombs...
I don't care who you are, that's funny right there!
It already is. But that's what will happens when your whole civilation gets up on Monday morning and hits the streets to protest.
That'll do it alright.
Reminds me of a song by Heather Alexander, March of Cambreadth. If that's not a song to be scared white by, I don't know what is.
Far more appropriate and supremely militant:
Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord;
He is trampling out the vintage where the grapes of wrath are stored;
He hath loosed the fateful lightning of His terrible swift sword;
His truth is marching on.
Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Glory! Glory! Hallelujah!
Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! His truth is marching on.
I have seen Him in the watch fires of a hundred circling camps
They have builded Him an altar in the evening dews and damps;
I can read His righteous sentence by the dim and flaring lamps;
His day is marching on.
Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Glory! Glory! Hallelujah!
Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! His day is marching on.
I have read a fiery Gospel writ in burnished rows of steel;
“As ye deal with My contemners, so with you My grace shall deal”;
Let the Hero, born of woman, crush the serpent with His heel,
Since God is marching on.
Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Glory! Glory! Hallelujah!
Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Since God is marching on.
He has sounded forth the trumpet that shall never call retreat;
He is sifting out the hearts of men before His judgment seat;
Oh, be swift, my soul, to answer Him! be jubilant, my feet;
Our God is marching on.
Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Glory! Glory! Hallelujah!
Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Our God is marching on.
In the beauty of the lilies Christ was born across the sea,
With a glory in His bosom that transfigures you and me:
As He died to make men holy, let us live to make men free;
While God is marching on.
Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Glory! Glory! Hallelujah!
Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! While God is marching on.
He is coming like the glory of the morning on the wave,
He is wisdom to the mighty, He is honor to the brave;
So the world shall be His footstool, and the soul of wrong His slave,
Our God is marching on.
Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Glory! Glory! Hallelujah!
Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Our God is marching on.
Let's all keep in mind that the Democrats are allies of the terrorists. The Democrats want George Bush to fail in the war on terror, because they think that would help them win elections. The Democrats want our troops to fail, and they are hoping for more terrorist attacks in the United States.
Psst, Al, Don't go waking the ents...
I agree.
Here's the difference between the civilized world and the useless subhuman garbage Muslim world.
The Pope's main organization Catholic Charities.
The Muslims biggest organization Al Queda.
Git-'R-Done!!!!
The "religion of peace" speaks again.
They are no threat at all except through colonization, laughingly call immigration these days. And they do not set immigration policy into the West, internal traitors do, including Republicans and so-called conservatives. They are telling you point blank "We intend to destroy you", yet the elites of the West still invite them in. Who are the real criminals, the real threat?
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I'm not just slamming the msm. I have come to the reasoned conclusion that elements within the media must be at the disposal of America's enemies, doing their propoganda work.
AP is keeping running tabs on the "spike in violence in Iraq." An hour or so ago, it reported "30 bodies found." Just now, I noticed it jumped to "43 bodies found."
I suppose they are keeping up with it in real time. Still strikes me as a very small number of casualties for a war.
Proving once again that Satan, aka "allah", is nothing if not persistent.
His most remarkable quality is his tenacity.
DOOOMED!
MARCH OF CAMBREADTH
Author: Heather Alexander
Axes flash, broadswords swing
Shining armors’ piercing ring
Horses run with polished shield
Fight those bastards ‘til they yield
Midnight mare, blood red roan
Fight to keep this land your own
Sound the horn and call the cry
How many of them can we make die?
Follow orders as you’re told
Make their yellow blood run cold
Fight until you die or drop
A force like ours is hard to stop
Close your mind to stress and pain
Fight ‘til you’re no longer sane
Let not one damn cur pass by
How many of them can we make die?
Guard your women and children well
Send these bastards back to Hell
We’ll teach them the ways of war
And they won’t come here anymore
Use your shield and use your head
Fight ‘til everyone is dead
Raise the flag up to the sky
How many of them can we make die?
Dawn has broke, the time has come
Move your feet to the marching drum
We’ll win the war and pay the toll
Fight as one in heart and soul
Midnight mare and blood red roan
Fight to keep this land your own
Sound the horn and call the cry
How many of them can we make die?
Axes flash, broadswords swing
Shining armors’ piercing ring
Horses run with polished shield
Fight those bastards ‘til they yield
Midnight mare and blood red roan
Fight to keep this land your own
Sound the horn and call the cry
How many of them can we make die?
How many of them can we make die?
How many of them can we make die?
At least Uzair gets it.
Now go lop off some Christian heads to show how wrong the pope was about you peace-loving Mohammedans.
Amen.
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