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Iraq al-Qaida says pope, West are doomed
AP ^ | 9/18/06 | ANNA JOHNSON

Posted on 09/18/2006 7:40:35 AM PDT by freespirited

CAIRO, Egypt — An al-Qaida-linked extremist group warned Pope Benedict XVI on Monday that he and the West were "doomed," as protesters returned to the streets across the Muslim world to demand more of an apology from the pontiff for his remarks about Islam and violence.

ADVERTISEMENT The Mujahedeen Shura Council, an umbrella organization of Sunni Arab extremist groups that includes al-Qaida in Iraq, issued a statement on a Web forum vowing to continue its holy war against the West. The authenticity of the statement could not be independently verified.

The group said Muslims would be victorious and addressed the pope as "the worshipper of the cross" saying "you and the West are doomed as you can see from the defeat in Iraq, Afghanistan, Chechnya and elsewhere. ... We will break up the cross, spill the liquor and impose head tax, then the only thing acceptable is a conversion (to Islam) or (killed by) the sword."

Islam forbids drinking alcohol and requires non-Muslims to pay a head tax to safeguard their lives if conquered by Muslims. They are exempt if they convert to Islam.

In Indian-controlled Kashmir, meanwhile, shops, businesses and schools shut down in response to a strike call by the head of a hard-line Muslim separatist leader to denounce Benedict. For the third day running, people burned tires and shouted "Down with the pope."

Protests also raged in Iraq, where angry demonstrators burned an effigy of the pope in Basra, and in Indonesia, where more than 100 people rallied in front of the heavily guarded Vatican Embassy in Jakarta, waving banners that said the "Pope is building religion on hatred."

The pope on Sunday said he was "deeply sorry" about the angry reaction to his speech last week in which he cited the words of a Byzantine emperor who characterized some of the teachings of Islam's Prophet Muhammad as "evil and inhuman" and referred to spreading Islam "by the sword."

Benedict said the remarks came from a text that didn't reflect his own opinion.

"I hope that this serves to appease hearts and to clarify the true meaning of my address, which in its totality was and is an invitation to frank and sincere dialogue, with great mutual respect," he said during his weekly appearance before pilgrims in Italy.

The statement of regret _ the pope's second in two days _ helped ease some tensions.

In Turkey, where outrage against Benedict's remarks had been swift, Catholic bishops decided Monday that no changes were necessary in his upcoming visit in November _ his first to a Muslim country, Vatican spokesman George Marovic said.

Marovic said the trip was expected to go on as planned, and the bishops had discussed the details of a religious ceremony the pontiff is to lead in Istanbul.

However, State Minister Mehmet Aydin, who oversees the religious affairs in Turkey, said he expected Turkish authorities to cancel the visit if Benedict does not offer a full apology.

"We are expecting the authorities to unilaterally cancel this visit. The pope's coming to Turkey isn't going to foment the uniting of civilizations, but a clash of civilizations," he said.

The secretary-general of the Turkish HUKUK-DER law association submitted a request to the Justice Ministry asking that the pope be arrested upon entering Turkey.

The appeal by Fikret Karabekmez, a former legislator for the banned pro-Islamic Welfare Party, called for Benedict to be tried under several Turkish laws, among them obstruction of freedom of belief, encouraging discrimination based on religion, and inciting religious hatred.

A prosecutor in the ministry will evaluate the request and decide whether to open a case.

Angry reactions also persisted in other corners of the Muslim world, where many demanded more of an apology by the pope than Sunday's statement of regret.

"Muslims have all this while felt oppressed, and the statement by the pope saying he is sorry about the angry reaction is inadequate to calm the anger _ more so because he is the highest leader of the Vatican," Malaysian Foreign Minister Syed Hamid Albar said.

Former Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad said on national television in Pakistan the pope had apparently forgotten it was Christianity that was spread by the sword during the Crusades.

Elsewhere, protesters rallied in the city of Muzaffarabad, in the Pakistani-controlled part of Kashmir. "His apology is not sufficient because he did not say that what he said was wrong," said Uzair Ahmed, from Pasban-e-Hurriyat, a Pakistani political group.

Even in China, where the government exerts tight controls over religious activities, a top religious official said Benedict had insulted the nation's Muslims.

"This has gravely hurt the feelings of the Muslims across the world, including those from China," Chen Guangyuan, president of Islamic Association of China, was quoted as saying in an interview with the Xinhua news agency.

In the Middle East, where Muslims threw firebombs at seven churches in the West Bank and Gaza Strip over the weekend, Christian leaders posted guards outside some churches.

"We are afraid," said Sonia Kobatazi, a Christian Lebanese, after Mass at the Maronite Christian St. George Cathedral in Beirut, Lebanon, where about a dozen policemen carrying automatic weapons stood guard.

Christians _ a minority in the Mideast that varies from nearly 40 percent in Lebanon to tiny communities in the Gulf states _ generally live in peace with the majority Muslims. But relations are sometimes strained and outbreaks of violence have occurred in recent years. Some worry the flap over the pope will lead to a new round.

The protests and violence have stirred up memories of the fury over cartoons that were published in a Danish newspaper of the Prophet Muhammad. Angry demonstrations took place in many countries, and some of the violence was directed at Western targets and Christian churches.

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KEYWORDS: alqaeda; benedictxvi; bombirannow; islam; muslims; pope
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1 posted on 09/18/2006 7:40:37 AM PDT by freespirited
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To: freespirited

West Says Islam is Doomed.


2 posted on 09/18/2006 7:41:08 AM PDT by RockinRight (She rocks my world, and I rock her world.)
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To: freespirited

How do you say "Bite Me" in Arabic?


3 posted on 09/18/2006 7:41:27 AM PDT by RockinRight (She rocks my world, and I rock her world.)
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To: freespirited

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"you and the West are doomed as you can see from the defeat in Iraq, Afghanistan, Chechnya and elsewhere. ...
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Gotta love that guy! He sees the completely empty glass, half full! Another Baghdad Bob.


4 posted on 09/18/2006 7:42:48 AM PDT by avacado
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To: RockinRight

Ditto


5 posted on 09/18/2006 7:44:03 AM PDT by griswold3 (Ken Blackwell, Ohio Governor in 2006- No!! You cannot have my governor in 2008.)
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To: freespirited
Load up everyone. PPPPP - Proper Preparation Prevent Poor Performance.
6 posted on 09/18/2006 7:45:22 AM PDT by Jake The Goose (Bill Maher)
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To: freespirited

This is unbelievable. Imagine if Christians and Jews had this type of reaction every time somebody implied something even half-way critical about those faiths!



7 posted on 09/18/2006 7:45:44 AM PDT by dinoparty
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To: freespirited

This is what happens when you play nice.


8 posted on 09/18/2006 7:46:29 AM PDT by sten
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To: freespirited
"the worshipper of the cross"

They really don't get it. They also make a big deal out of monotheism as if they have a corner on that market.

9 posted on 09/18/2006 7:46:46 AM PDT by RightWhale (Repeal the law of the excluded middle)
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To: freespirited

They have no idea what we'll do to them.


10 posted on 09/18/2006 7:47:19 AM PDT by wastedyears
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To: freespirited
someone should tell those islamies that if hair on the Pope's head is hurt or if one stone of the Vatican is damaged their mecca will be a rock pile.
11 posted on 09/18/2006 7:49:08 AM PDT by camas
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To: Jake The Goose

Note to Islam: I am not "submitting" and you are not going to threaten me. We have seen your kind for 1400 years. We KNOW who you are and and what you represent.

It's clear as a bell now to most of us. The Pope says you are violent and you respond with violence.

Islam may look at the West now and see us ripe for the picking. But I see us as just beginning to fight.

You want to take us on? We have centuries of experience in this, Ahmed, and we know how to defend ourselves.

Care to find out?


12 posted on 09/18/2006 7:49:19 AM PDT by sdillard
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To: freespirited

13 posted on 09/18/2006 7:49:42 AM PDT by oldleft
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To: RockinRight
How do you say "Bite Me" in Arabic?......Photobucket - Video and Image Hosting
14 posted on 09/18/2006 7:50:10 AM PDT by mystery-ak (My Son, My Soldier, My Hero..............)
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To: freespirited

1 Billion Muslims vs. 2+ billion Christians. Yeah, good luck with that, bitch.


15 posted on 09/18/2006 7:50:30 AM PDT by Catholic Canadian (Formerly Ashamed Canadian - thank you Stephen Harper!)
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To: oldleft

IS there a full-sized map of that? That's hilarious!


16 posted on 09/18/2006 7:51:19 AM PDT by RockinRight (She rocks my world, and I rock her world.)
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To: freespirited
Former Malaysian Prime Minister Mahathir Mohamad said on national television in Pakistan the pope had apparently forgotten it was Christianity that was spread by the sword during the Crusades.

No, Islam was spread by the sword. The Crusades were to rescue the Holy Land from murdering, raping barbarian Muslims. And it's high time we launched another Crusade, we need to start calling it what it is because recent events have made it very clear to me that violent fascism IS mainstream Islam.

17 posted on 09/18/2006 7:51:39 AM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: freespirited

Come get some.


18 posted on 09/18/2006 7:51:59 AM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (islam: The Rabid Pig Cult)
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To: freespirited

We say to the muslims extremists, siss on you pister.


19 posted on 09/18/2006 7:52:13 AM PDT by hgro
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To: camas

Let's just pray that the Vatican takes the necessary precautions and hires lots of top-notch security. He also needs to cancel his trip to Turkey in Oct.


20 posted on 09/18/2006 7:52:28 AM PDT by demkicker (democrats, terrorists, Powell, McCain, Graham & Collins are intimate bedfellows)
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To: RockinRight

21 posted on 09/18/2006 7:56:39 AM PDT by oldleft
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To: RockinRight

22 posted on 09/18/2006 7:56:43 AM PDT by Samwise (All that is needed for evil to triumph is that good men do nothing.)
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To: oldleft

Bookmarked! LOL


23 posted on 09/18/2006 7:57:24 AM PDT by Samwise (All that is needed for evil to triumph is that good men do nothing.)
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To: demkicker
He also needs to cancel his trip to Turkey in Oct.

I don't think he will. The Apostles did not turn back in the face of danger. The Holy Spirit will guide him.

24 posted on 09/18/2006 7:57:46 AM PDT by frogjerk (REUTERS: We give smoke and mirrors a bad name)
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To: freespirited

I guess we'll have to dust off some of the old songs of the Church that are becoming very appropriate again:

Onward, Christian soldiers,
Marching as to war,
With the cross of Jesus going on before,
Christ the royal Master leads against the Foe
Forward into battle,
See His banners go!
Onward, Christian soldiers, marching as to war,
With the cross of Jesus going on before.

Crowns and thrones may perish,
Kingdoms rise and wane,
But the Church of Jesus constant shall remain.
Gates of Hell can never 'gainst that Church prevail;
We have Christ's own promise, and that cannot fail.
Onward Christian soldiers, marching as to war,
With the cross of Jesus going on before.
(Sabine Baring-Gould, 1864)


25 posted on 09/18/2006 8:05:39 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: Samwise

So many thousands of pounds of bombs...


26 posted on 09/18/2006 8:05:52 AM PDT by wastedyears
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To: oldleft

I don't care who you are, that's funny right there!


27 posted on 09/18/2006 8:06:44 AM PDT by RockinRight (She rocks my world, and I rock her world.)
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To: camas

It already is. But that's what will happens when your whole civilation gets up on Monday morning and hits the streets to protest.


28 posted on 09/18/2006 8:06:51 AM PDT by massgopguy (massgopguy)
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To: freespirited
Something is gonna to have to give. We must find a way to ban Islam as a cult and political ideology disguised as religion. If not, they will continue to infiltrate and rot our core. Shame on us if we refuse to deal with them right in our own backyard. Their silence speaks volumes.

Outlaw Islam, encourage the Muslims here to convert, show those who won't the door, bulldoze every cesspool of a mosque, then declare open season on anyone who tries to practices this crap from that point forward.

I used to be tolerant. Now I am as committed to Islam's destruction as they are to mine.

LBT
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29 posted on 09/18/2006 8:07:03 AM PDT by LiberalBassTurds (Al Qaeda needs to know we are fluent in the "dialogue of bullets.")
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To: Samwise

That'll do it alright.


30 posted on 09/18/2006 8:07:32 AM PDT by RockinRight (She rocks my world, and I rock her world.)
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To: freespirited

31 posted on 09/18/2006 8:08:27 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: kittymyrib

Reminds me of a song by Heather Alexander, March of Cambreadth. If that's not a song to be scared white by, I don't know what is.


32 posted on 09/18/2006 8:10:30 AM PDT by wastedyears
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To: kittymyrib

Far more appropriate and supremely militant:

Mine eyes have seen the glory of the coming of the Lord;
He is trampling out the vintage where the grapes of wrath are stored;
He hath loosed the fateful lightning of His terrible swift sword;
His truth is marching on.
Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Glory! Glory! Hallelujah!
Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! His truth is marching on.

I have seen Him in the watch fires of a hundred circling camps
They have builded Him an altar in the evening dews and damps;
I can read His righteous sentence by the dim and flaring lamps;
His day is marching on.
Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Glory! Glory! Hallelujah!
Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! His day is marching on.

I have read a fiery Gospel writ in burnished rows of steel;
“As ye deal with My contemners, so with you My grace shall deal”;
Let the Hero, born of woman, crush the serpent with His heel,
Since God is marching on.
Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Glory! Glory! Hallelujah!
Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Since God is marching on.

He has sounded forth the trumpet that shall never call retreat;
He is sifting out the hearts of men before His judgment seat;
Oh, be swift, my soul, to answer Him! be jubilant, my feet;
Our God is marching on.
Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Glory! Glory! Hallelujah!
Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Our God is marching on.

In the beauty of the lilies Christ was born across the sea,
With a glory in His bosom that transfigures you and me:
As He died to make men holy, let us live to make men free;
While God is marching on.
Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Glory! Glory! Hallelujah!
Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! While God is marching on.

He is coming like the glory of the morning on the wave,
He is wisdom to the mighty, He is honor to the brave;
So the world shall be His footstool, and the soul of wrong His slave,
Our God is marching on.
Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Glory! Glory! Hallelujah!
Glory! Glory! Hallelujah! Our God is marching on.


33 posted on 09/18/2006 8:10:47 AM PDT by DarthVader (Conservatives aren't always right , but Liberals are almost always wrong.)
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To: freespirited

Let's all keep in mind that the Democrats are allies of the terrorists. The Democrats want George Bush to fail in the war on terror, because they think that would help them win elections. The Democrats want our troops to fail, and they are hoping for more terrorist attacks in the United States.


34 posted on 09/18/2006 8:13:32 AM PDT by pleikumud
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To: freespirited

Psst, Al, Don't go waking the ents...


35 posted on 09/18/2006 8:16:19 AM PDT by dangus (Pope calls Islam violent; Millions of Moslems demonstrate)
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To: camas

I agree.


36 posted on 09/18/2006 8:17:17 AM PDT by vrwcagent0498 (Mark Levin and Ann Coulter are my patron saints.)
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To: vrwcagent0498

Here's the difference between the civilized world and the useless subhuman garbage Muslim world.

The Pope's main organization Catholic Charities.

The Muslims biggest organization Al Queda.


37 posted on 09/18/2006 8:21:25 AM PDT by ashamedtobefromparkridge
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To: RockinRight

Git-'R-Done!!!!


38 posted on 09/18/2006 8:41:18 AM PDT by VRWCer ("The Bible is the Rock on which this Republic rests." - President Andrew Jackson)
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To: freespirited
We are doomed I tell you, doomed!

They will find me quaking in fear under my pillow! NOT!

Food for thought; don't bring a knife to a nuke fight!
39 posted on 09/18/2006 9:37:07 AM PDT by Herakles (Liberals are stone stupid and proud of it!)
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To: freespirited

The "religion of peace" speaks again.


40 posted on 09/18/2006 9:50:17 AM PDT by Roberts
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To: freespirited

They are no threat at all except through colonization, laughingly call immigration these days. And they do not set immigration policy into the West, internal traitors do, including Republicans and so-called conservatives. They are telling you point blank "We intend to destroy you", yet the elites of the West still invite them in. Who are the real criminals, the real threat?


41 posted on 09/18/2006 10:29:38 AM PDT by jordan8
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To: Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; nickcarraway; Romulus; ...


Catholic Ping - Please freepmail me if you want on/off this list


42 posted on 09/18/2006 11:28:04 AM PDT by NYer ("That which is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbor. That is the whole Torah." Hillel)
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43 posted on 09/18/2006 11:35:00 AM PDT by stm (Katherine Harris for US Senate!)
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To: freespirited
A press release exclusive to AP from Al Quaeda, no doubt.

I'm not just slamming the msm. I have come to the reasoned conclusion that elements within the media must be at the disposal of America's enemies, doing their propoganda work.

AP is keeping running tabs on the "spike in violence in Iraq." An hour or so ago, it reported "30 bodies found." Just now, I noticed it jumped to "43 bodies found."

I suppose they are keeping up with it in real time. Still strikes me as a very small number of casualties for a war.

44 posted on 09/18/2006 11:36:41 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand ("It's only pain, darling.")
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"Gotta love that guy! He sees the completely empty glass, half full! Another Baghdad Bob. "

Proving once again that Satan, aka "allah", is nothing if not persistent.

His most remarkable quality is his tenacity.

45 posted on 09/18/2006 11:41:11 AM PDT by TheClintons-STILLAnti-American
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To: stm

46 posted on 09/18/2006 11:44:58 AM PDT by NYer ("That which is hateful to you, do not do to your neighbor. That is the whole Torah." Hillel)
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To: dfwgator
Ah, you beat me to it!

DOOOMED!

47 posted on 09/18/2006 11:45:41 AM PDT by Pyro7480 ("Give me an army saying the Rosary and I will conquer the world." - Pope Blessed Pius IX)
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To: wastedyears

MARCH OF CAMBREADTH
Author: Heather Alexander

Axes flash, broadswords swing
Shining armors’ piercing ring
Horses run with polished shield
Fight those bastards ‘til they yield

Midnight mare, blood red roan
Fight to keep this land your own
Sound the horn and call the cry
How many of them can we make die?

Follow orders as you’re told
Make their yellow blood run cold
Fight until you die or drop
A force like ours is hard to stop

Close your mind to stress and pain
Fight ‘til you’re no longer sane
Let not one damn cur pass by
How many of them can we make die?

Guard your women and children well
Send these bastards back to Hell
We’ll teach them the ways of war
And they won’t come here anymore

Use your shield and use your head
Fight ‘til everyone is dead
Raise the flag up to the sky
How many of them can we make die?

Dawn has broke, the time has come
Move your feet to the marching drum
We’ll win the war and pay the toll
Fight as one in heart and soul

Midnight mare and blood red roan
Fight to keep this land your own
Sound the horn and call the cry
How many of them can we make die?

Axes flash, broadswords swing
Shining armors’ piercing ring
Horses run with polished shield
Fight those bastards ‘til they yield

Midnight mare and blood red roan
Fight to keep this land your own
Sound the horn and call the cry
How many of them can we make die?
How many of them can we make die?
How many of them can we make die?


48 posted on 09/18/2006 12:09:42 PM PDT by MyFreedomIHoldDear
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To: freespirited
"His apology is not sufficient because he did not say that what he said was wrong," said Uzair Ahmed, from Pasban-e-Hurriyat, a Pakistani political group.

At least Uzair gets it.

Now go lop off some Christian heads to show how wrong the pope was about you peace-loving Mohammedans.

49 posted on 09/18/2006 12:12:11 PM PDT by Aquinasfan (When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
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To: wastedyears

Amen.


50 posted on 09/18/2006 12:20:06 PM PDT by AliVeritas (The road to hell is paved with bishops - St. Athanasis)
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