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Hotel minibar key opens Diebold voting machine!!!!
Freedom-to-Tinker ^ | Monday September 18, 2006 | Ed Felten

Posted on 09/18/2006 6:28:50 PM PDT by dickmc

Like other computer scientists who have studied Diebold voting machines, we were surprised at the apparent carelessness of Diebold’s security design. It can be hard to convey this to nonexperts, because the examples are technical. To security practitioners, the use of a fixed, unchangeable encryption key and the blind acceptance of every software update offered on removable storage are rookie mistakes; but nonexperts have trouble appreciating this. Here is an example that anybody, expert or not, can appreciate:

The access panel door on a Diebold AccuVote-TS voting machine — the door that protects the memory card that stores the votes, and is the main barrier to the injection of a virus — can be opened with a standard key that is widely available on the Internet.

On Wednesday we did a live demo for our Princeton Computer Science colleagues of the vote-stealing software described in our paper and video. Afterward, Chris Tengi, a technical staff member, asked to look at the key that came with the voting machine. He noticed an alphanumeric code printed on the key, and remarked that he had a key at home with the same code on it. The next day he brought in his key and sure enough it opened the voting machine.

This seemed like a freakish coincidence — until we learned how common these keys are.

Chris’s key was left over from a previous job, maybe fifteen years ago. He said the key had opened either a file cabinet or the access panel on an old VAX computer. A little research revealed that the exact same key is used widely in office furniture, electronic equipment, jukeboxes, and hotel minibars. It’s a standard part, and like most standard parts it’s easily purchased on the Internet. We bought several keys from an office furniture key shop — they open the voting machine too. We ordered another key on eBay from a jukebox supply shop. The keys can be purchased from many online merchants.

Using such a standard key doesn’t provide much security, but it does allow Diebold to assert that their design uses a lock and key. Experts will recognize the same problem in Diebold’s use of encryption — they can say they use encryption, but they use it in a way that neutralizes its security benefits.

The bad guys don’t care whether you use encryption; they care whether they can read and modify your data. They don’t care whether your door has a lock on it; they care whether they can get it open. The checkbox approach to security works in press releases, but it doesn’t work in the field.

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Also, see the Princeton site at http://itpolicy.princeton.edu/voting/ for the related Security Analysis of the Diebold AccuVote-TS Voting Machine


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Miscellaneous; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: diebold; hack; key; security; votefraud; voting
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1 posted on 09/18/2006 6:28:52 PM PDT by dickmc
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To: dickmc

And another Urban Legend is born!


2 posted on 09/18/2006 6:29:57 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Insultification is the polar opposite of Niceosity)
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To: dickmc

I wouldn't worry about this - those minibar keys are under tight security/sarc.


3 posted on 09/18/2006 6:31:20 PM PDT by silverleaf (Fasten your seat belts- it's going to be a BUMPY ride.)
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To: freedumb2003

more pre-election ca-ca. Just an intelligent guess!


4 posted on 09/18/2006 6:31:23 PM PDT by acapesket (never had a vote count in all my years here)
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To: dickmc

I've noticed for a couple of years my Diebold key would unlock hotel mini-bars, but was trying to keep it secret.

Now just look what some wise-ass has done. They'll confiscate all the thousands of Diebold keys now.

Geez, is nothing sacred?

:)


5 posted on 09/18/2006 6:36:04 PM PDT by Chuck54 ( "Your right to privacy is not as important as my right to live".)
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To: Chuck54

Just try getting drunk on those little plastic bottles. What a ripoff. Rove really has it in for us.


6 posted on 09/18/2006 6:39:31 PM PDT by YCTHouston (Goodbye Flyer)
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To: dickmc

Yeah, but if you use the hotel mini bar key on the Diebold machine, you get charged $8.50 for every vote that you steal.


7 posted on 09/18/2006 6:39:49 PM PDT by Mannaggia l'America
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To: dickmc
The key for our Diebold machine was the same one I had for my 1965 Ford Fairlane (500)
Fortunately I had the wherewithall to save it all these years.
I walked into my polling place and yelled "Hey everybody, Bill Clinton is outside shaking hands!" After all the Liberals ran out I simply swapped the card in the Diebold machine.
We had over a million votes for Bush in our community of 75 people... and I'm the only Republican!
They never caught on!
8 posted on 09/18/2006 6:46:35 PM PDT by The Brush
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To: dickmc
Unbelievable!

Here's a link to the post that tells the whole sad story about this.

If you have the time and are a little geeky, the .pdf file of their paper is interesting reading. Link to the paper at that link.

9 posted on 09/18/2006 6:53:17 PM PDT by upchuck (Q:Why does President Bush support amnesty for illegal aliens? A:Read this: http://tinyurl.com/nyvno)
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To: YCTHouston
LOL -- and move a bottle in the fridge and the cost shows up n your bill!

I tried running an expense report at the local VRWC Hall, per the instruction on the secret letter, and they sent back a "insufficient documentation" notice.

10 posted on 09/18/2006 6:55:39 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Insultification is the polar opposite of Niceosity)
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To: dickmc

As usual, some freepers are too quick to mock & deride. This is not good news. No voting system is perfect, but I trust paper ballots that can be verified much more than a machine.


11 posted on 09/18/2006 6:55:54 PM PDT by Feiny (Save the Whales. Collect the whole set.)
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To: feinswinesuksass
As usual, some freepers are too quick to mock & deride.

Just be thankful no idiot decided to post a viking kitty picture.

12 posted on 09/18/2006 6:57:05 PM PDT by Wormwood (Everybody lies, but it doesn't matter because nobody listens.)
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To: dickmc

Damn! I have been enjoying the use of my Diebold key in hotel mini-bars all across the land, but now the hotels may start to tighten up on their security.....


13 posted on 09/18/2006 6:57:30 PM PDT by Enchante (There are 3 kinds of lies: Lies, Damned Lies, and Mainstream Journalism)
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To: dickmc

This is good news! In my precinct I use a bump key (klopf klinkel) to hack the voting machine. The hotel bar key will be quieter.

I almost got caught in '04!


14 posted on 09/18/2006 6:58:15 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: dickmc

These commies are just mad because its a lot harder to cheat with a Diebold than it is with chads and the idiots that used to steal elections for the democraps can't do it any more.


15 posted on 09/18/2006 7:00:30 PM PDT by Rome2000 (Peace is not an option)
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To: feinswinesuksass
.......but I trust paper ballots that can be verified much more than a machine.

Ditto!

16 posted on 09/18/2006 7:01:21 PM PDT by Fiddlstix (Warning! This Is A Subliminal Tagline! Read it at your own risk!(Presented by TagLines R US))
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To: The Brush
This is the second story I've seen on voting machines in the last couple of days. Do you think the libs are planning to claim lost votes and another stolen election? Naw not them
17 posted on 09/18/2006 7:02:13 PM PDT by jakerobins
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To: dickmc

I was going to use the key to my Social Security lock box.

I think all the Chicago politicians are upset that they have to learn how to fix a new type machine. Learning new technology is difficult for old-time politicians.


18 posted on 09/18/2006 7:02:31 PM PDT by Proud2BeRight
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To: dickmc

What a critical decision for a Kennedy; use the hotel bar or fix the voting machines.


19 posted on 09/18/2006 7:04:00 PM PDT by Proud2BeRight
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To: jakerobins

Paper ballots and photo IDs, and finger ink.


20 posted on 09/18/2006 7:04:52 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Islam is the religion of violins, NOT peas.)
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To: Paladin2
Paper ballots and photo IDs, and finger ink.

Finally, a system I can support.

21 posted on 09/18/2006 7:05:38 PM PDT by Wormwood (Everybody lies, but it doesn't matter because nobody listens.)
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To: dickmc

Well, yeah, but can you chill martini fixins in the Diebold?


22 posted on 09/18/2006 7:06:31 PM PDT by RichInOC (...somebody was going to ask...why not me?)
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To: Mannaggia l'America

ROFL! That ROCKS!


23 posted on 09/18/2006 7:06:35 PM PDT by SquirrelKing
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To: feinswinesuksass
"As usual, some freepers are too quick to mock & deride."

Do you think that this is true? Is there corroborating evidence?

I find it highly unlikely that hotel minibars would all use the same key. Last time I saw one it took the plastic electronic doorkey, not a metal key. Why would the front desk want to keep two sets of keys per room, and what's the point of keying them all the same?

And for the hotel key to have the same stamp as the Diebold key, also is unlikely.

Has Diebold 'fessed up to this, or has some other source said it was true?
24 posted on 09/18/2006 7:06:39 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: dickmc
There's the proof.

Cynthia McKinney won!!

25 posted on 09/18/2006 7:07:06 PM PDT by blam
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To: dickmc

This means that Ted Kennedy now has total control of all voting in Massachusetts!


26 posted on 09/18/2006 7:07:07 PM PDT by ConservaTexan (February 6, 1911)
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To: Mannaggia l'America

"They minitiarized an entire voting machine just for me."


27 posted on 09/18/2006 7:07:17 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: dickmc
It is VERY obvious what is going on with the recent, never ending stories, concerning voting machines:

Some libs in the media and acadamia now believe they may not win the house and could possibly end up drawing even or winning just 1-2 seats. So, they are now laying the groundwork for the typical post election tirades like

"They stole the election by manipulating the machines"

or one of numerous variations of the above.

Sorry, but the peeples are growing rather weary of your chicken little impersonations.

One other thing: Is it not interesting that whenever these supposed things occur, it only happens to Democratic voters in districts run by Democrats?

You would think that if this liberal could come up with a program that supposedly alters the vote count that there would be other technically savvy liberals that would go after Republican votes using the same method.

Oh, I forgot, liberals would NEVER manipulate the vote. That is something that only those mean and nasty conservatives do /sarcasm>

28 posted on 09/18/2006 7:08:15 PM PDT by technomage (NEVER underestimate the depths to which liberals will stoop for power.)
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To: feinswinesuksass
No voting system is perfect, but I trust paper ballots that can be verified much more than a machine.

I have yet to see a 'machine' or computer that malfunctions only when someone of a certain party votes.

I want to meet whoever wrote that program and just might hire them!!

29 posted on 09/18/2006 7:10:38 PM PDT by technomage (NEVER underestimate the depths to which liberals will stoop for power.)
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To: dickmc

I think there are some serious concerns with the new computerized voting. I'd be much happier if there was an actual paper trail of somesort and something that could be verified. Eventually we'll have an incidence where someone hacks these machines and changes the results of an election. Given how the Dems have behaved in recent elections, I wouldn't be shocked if they don't find ways to cheat on these systems.


30 posted on 09/18/2006 7:11:44 PM PDT by SmoothTalker
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To: SmoothTalker
Given how the Dems have behaved in recent elections, I wouldn't be shocked if they don't find ways to cheat on these systems.

Please! We all know that only Republicans would manipulate the vote. After all, the only bitching we hear after each election comes from the Democrats!

31 posted on 09/18/2006 7:13:50 PM PDT by technomage (NEVER underestimate the depths to which liberals will stoop for power.)
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To: technomage

I am not worried about a malfunction as much as a hacker, a virus or maybe a cabal of diebold machine genius poll workers working in unison across the country.


32 posted on 09/18/2006 7:16:06 PM PDT by Feiny (Save the Whales. Collect the whole set.)
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To: technomage

Not true. I bitch about the illegals voting, the dead voting and multiple votes for 1 person. That is also a real problem. They don't even ask for photo ID's here in CA.


33 posted on 09/18/2006 7:17:39 PM PDT by Feiny (Save the Whales. Collect the whole set.)
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To: dickmc

If you kick a Diebold machine in the right place, a little window slides up and you get to see the naked dancing girl inside.


34 posted on 09/18/2006 7:17:56 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: feinswinesuksass
I trust paper ballots that can be verified

The current vote fraud setup is based on paper ballots. Look back and see what goes on. A recount is called, and suddenly tallies are fouled up, precinct counts don't match, there are extra votes. So another recount and another until the correct party wins.

This is all based on manipulating paper ballots, swapping around boxes of ballots, and making new ballots while deep-sixing others and faking box tallies, while also manipulating absentees (saving them for last). This is how in Milwaukee, you can have 70,000 voters by tally and 87,000 ballots by count- ops, somebody's faking math was a tad off!

A hard drive, though, gives the same number back every time and there is little room to wiggle or lie.

Remember back in 2000, the video of the recount? Person A looks and says undervote. Hands it to person B, undervote. hands it to person C, who bends it, pokes it, bends it- hanging chad, see? It's now a Gore vote! All based on manipulating paper.
35 posted on 09/18/2006 7:18:06 PM PDT by DBrow
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To: dickmc

I don't trust these machines for nothing. There should always be a backup hardcopy of each ballot in case the election is close and a recount is ordered.


36 posted on 09/18/2006 7:21:05 PM PDT by John Lenin
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To: dickmc

It did seem odd that all the voters in Cynthia McKinney's district exited their voting booth with macademia nuts.


37 posted on 09/18/2006 7:24:41 PM PDT by small voice in the wilderness
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To: Wormwood

38 posted on 09/18/2006 7:26:25 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Insultification is the polar opposite of Niceosity)
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To: DBrow

Yes, but a machine with a vote stealing virus can switch votes from one party to another and the votes count would match.

Of course, I agree with South Park creators. Our choice of candidates is almost always between Turd Sandwich or Giant Douche.


39 posted on 09/18/2006 7:27:36 PM PDT by Feiny (Save the Whales. Collect the whole set.)
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To: ConservaTexan

I think you read the memo wrong...Kennedy now has total control of all Mass. mini-bars.


40 posted on 09/18/2006 7:27:37 PM PDT by stylin19a
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To: dickmc
The Dems will arrange an easily found hack to give more votes to a Republican who would have won anyway and use it to have the election overturned claiming they were the real winners.
41 posted on 09/18/2006 7:30:28 PM PDT by WildBill2275 (The Second Amendment guarantees all of your other rights.)
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To: dickmc

I don't know why some Freepers are discounting this story. There are reams of documentation proving that the electronic voting machines suck. This (should be) is just another nail in the coffin.

This is one area where the average right-wing citizen can find common ground with the average left-wing citizen. I believe the average joe-in-the-street, left or right, wants a fair vote. Average joes on both sides of the aisle should band together and demand voting machines that can't be hacked. Everyone wins.


42 posted on 09/18/2006 7:30:51 PM PDT by ibbryn (this tag intentionally left blank)
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To: feinswinesuksass

There was a great picture on the Howie Carr website of a Union "official" or thug, in the voting booth telling the union member who to vote for.
Good stuff.


43 posted on 09/18/2006 7:41:10 PM PDT by Holicheese (Beerfest could be the greatest movie ever made!)
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To: dickmc

The same keys also unlock the SS Lockbox.


44 posted on 09/18/2006 8:13:37 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (God has blessed Republicans with political enemies who are going senile.)
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To: silverleaf

this should make Ted Kennedy happy now he only has carry 1 key


45 posted on 09/18/2006 8:20:19 PM PDT by mickey blue eyes
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To: technomage

It is all preparatory disinformation for the possibility that the Dems will LOSE. They must lay the groundwork to be able to claim it was not the will of the people.


46 posted on 09/18/2006 8:20:57 PM PDT by Sender ("We don't know who struck first, us or them. But we do know it was us that scorched the sky.")
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To: ibbryn
Average joes on both sides of the aisle should band together and demand voting machines that can't be hacked. Everyone wins.

There are many conservatives who wouldn't believe a Democrat if he claimed that water was wet and the sky blue.

Identity politics. Divide and conquer.

Fun, huh?

47 posted on 09/18/2006 8:23:13 PM PDT by Wormwood (Everybody lies, but it doesn't matter because nobody listens.)
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To: jakerobins
A video of how to unlock a voting machine was posted at D.U. The libs had their anger out in full force certain that the Republicans had stolen the election in 2004.
Here's a link to the video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aZws98jw67g#ydhMxZ-XMNc
The discussion is ongoing
48 posted on 09/18/2006 8:29:01 PM PDT by The Brush
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To: Fiddlstix

You trust these? http://history.sandiego.edu/gen/USPics43/2000-florida-recount01b.jpg


49 posted on 09/18/2006 8:40:29 PM PDT by jakerobins
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To: feinswinesuksass
or maybe a cabal of diebold machine genius poll workers working in unison across the country.

You forgot the tinfoil hat alert!!

50 posted on 09/18/2006 8:42:31 PM PDT by technomage (NEVER underestimate the depths to which liberals will stoop for power.)
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