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To: neverdem
also believe that the main interest of Islam for young men in Western countries is the predominance that it gives them over women.

Interesting point. I think that if one examines Islam, a lot of it is based on fear of/desire for dominance over women. If you're a Muslim male, things are just fine: you can have multiple wives (unless you're poor, in which case you can't have any at all because the richer Muslims have taken them all), you can sleep with anything that moves and have 20-minute "pleasure marriages" with prostitutes, and your women basically have to stay in your home and tend to you when you decide to favor them with your presence. And this is not because of anything you've done to merit it, but simply because you're male. Mohammed's entire system is almost obsessively based on the subjugation of women. Very weird.

16 posted on 09/19/2006 4:15:49 AM PDT by livius
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To: livius
I have noticed a kind of indulgence that they give to their "soldiers". When in the West they tend to go out on the town and enjoy the "decadent" life that the clergy back home rail against. It seems they do this to "fit in".
Nasty job, but I guess someone has to do it.
18 posted on 09/19/2006 7:15:57 AM PDT by oyez ( The older I get, the better I was.)
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To: livius
Mohammed's entire system is almost obsessively based on the subjugation of women

Even the Muslim toddlers who are male get treated differently than the female toddlers.

21 posted on 09/19/2006 9:07:12 AM PDT by syriacus (If the Pope meant to insult Muslims he would have discussed mustaches.)
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To: livius
Mohammed's entire system is almost obsessively based on the subjugation of women. Very weird.

Someone who once lived in that part of the world explained how the societies there are so abusive & authoritarian that the only area where a man can exert any control is the home. Because the men there in general feel so helpless, insecure, and angry, they need some outlet for exercising power, which they translate as abuse.

Basically Islam caters to that mentality. In other religions, people oriente themselves around the belief system; with Islam it's the other way around.

22 posted on 09/19/2006 3:00:40 PM PDT by MoochPooch (I'm a compassionate cynic.)
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