Skip to comments.Rush Explains McCain Hopes to Cause Republican Defeat in '06 and Be Presidential Candidate in '08
Posted on 09/19/2006 2:35:24 AM PDT by Oakleaf
"For Senator McCain, This Is Personal"
Look, folks, there is no question here that this is being seen as a political opportunity. Somebody raised the possibility last week, and I want to put it out there again because I did last week, too, but put it out there that there are those who are theorizing -- you know people in politics, analysts and pollsters and so forth who sit around and, you know, like global warming experts, try to predict the future and analyze why certain people are doing certain things. And there's a segment of the political analyst community which believes that McCain understands he's got a problem with the Republican base, but that he would be helped if the Republicans lose big in November, lose the House, maybe even lose the Senate, because his theory is that that would scare the Republicans into voting for whoever Republican they thought could win the presidency in '08 and maybe pick up some House seats and Senate seats along the way. If that's true, and I don't know that it is, but if it's true it means for McCain it's entirely personal.
I think a large part of it is personal for McCain based on his own prisoner of war experience. But I mean there's little doubt here that there's a cabal lining up against the administration here for reasons that don't make practical sense. So you have to look at them through another prism, such as through a political prism, to try to understand them....
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Also see the interesting piece in the Wapo this AM "McCain Risks Alieating GOP" is the title on the online front page while the title in the actual article at (http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/18/AR2006091801353.html)is "McCain's Stand On Detainees May Pose Risk For 2008 Bid Opposition to Bush Could Alienate Republican Base". Read this article after you read Rush's and it all seems to be a set-up - noble McCain risks all to stand for principles and possibly lose his hope for the Presidency - when in fact what is going on is that the Wapo i.e. the Dems would love nothing more than the Republicans to lose over this in 06 and thus position McCain for 08. Stop and think if the Dems truly believe they can't elect a President of their part in 08 why not McCain who is closer to them in philsophy than he is to Republicans.
Would McCain want to become the savior for the party? Absolutely. Would he want to do it after causing their defeat? Nope.
Truth is, McCain would have a better chance of winning the nomination for the White House on the other side of the aisle. Coming in as the white horse to save everyone for the Republicans just won't fly. And he's a poisoned pill in the final campaign as the 'conservative' because the second he wins the Republican nomination, every news outlet on the planet will drill into our minds his heart problems.
McCain will support whomever gets the nomination. Next.
I hope you're right about that but the nightmare scenario I see unfolding is that McCain won't get the nomination, will run as a 3rd candidate, and allow Hillary to win with less than 50% of the vote. Sure hope it doesn't unfold like that though.
'Personally'. . .I have always thought that politics for McCain wasentirely; exclusively. . .< personal. In the same way it is and was for Bill and Hillary. . .Algore and Kerry. .
.And when McCain offered up steadfastly, as if it were committing an altruism on our behalf; that he would risk the Presidency (his. . .) on his committment to his position on Geneva Convention rules - for terrorists -
. . . it was as much a grandstanding as it was a truth - albeit - a self-serving; self-aggrandizing; PERSONAL truth.
McCain is out for himself period. He is loser and probably the only Republican I might not be able to vote for. He plays fast and loose with national security. In my opinion, McCain hates Bush almost as much as the Dems. Like many who lost the presidency, he can not get over it.
Think McCain is more than prepared to run as a '3rd party'; should he not get the nomination. While '3rd Party' would be a second choice does appear he is cultivating what he thinks is best for both options. . .
Do agree with the above being personal (i.e. 'self-serving') for McCain. Do not believe for a minute his irrationality is rooted in his past POW experience - though his pollitical survival skills, surely are.
OTOH. . .if it were; as some critics kindly point out his 'egalitarian' concerns for prisoners. . .then the man who sees the world through this 'prism of the past' would be unqualified to be President.
. . .because the 'realitiy' MCain lives in, surely could pose a threat if carried into the Oval Office.
McCain has as much chance of getting the GOP nomination as Jimmy Carter does.
You may be right. This is nuts.
But then so is McCain.
McCains capture and imprisonment proves to McCain just the opposite of what he is saying.
McCain claims that if we treat our prisoners well , the enemy will do the same.
If his imprisonment didnt prove that theory wrong to him then what does it take? Is he really that stupid?
I worry about McCain using Lieberman as an example and running as an independent in 08. That is the only way Hillary gets into the White House. I hope he has more loyalty to the Republicans than to do this, but I have had my hopes dashed before.
McCain is a maverick. ;-)
Rush is as usual sharp in his analysis.
Mccain's (wrong) calculation is that a defeat of Republicans this year, would mean that he can sit himself up as a maverick, outsider to capture the nomination and win the Presidency. Mccain makes no effort to hide that he is not a mainstream Republican, it is always been about him and screw the party and the country.
McCain's only loyalty is to himself.
He's been the same POS for years.
He's the one "Republican" I know of I will not vote for under any circumstance.
I tend to agree with you.
If this was the first time he had been "contrary" (that's a kind word for his attitude) I'd say that Rush's opinion hit the nail on the head.
But the man has fought against Bush from the beginning. He has been in opposition to his party on so many occasions, it's hard to keep count.
I don't think I could vote for him for President. I'd have to hold my nose to vote for Guiliani, but I think McCain operates on such an emotional level, I don't think I'd want him in the White House.
i definitely think he has anger management problems. i seem to recall him once reaming someone out when caught in the hallway somewhere in a prior election, a reporter? it is kind of hazy in my recollection, but it was him going off when caught somewhere off guard. i associate distended veins and red faced anger with John McCain and have always thought him less than stable, probably due to his POW years.
If you look at the whole of his legislative leanings, you will see it....Too much about John McCain and little thought of the good of the nation as a whole.
"McCain Risks Alieating GOP", shows how clueless the ratmedia is. They actually think that he could beat "I'd stay home" on the Freep poll.
If true, McCain and all the other RINOs and RATS do not care one bit about our country's safety. They only care about themselves in the short term and are incapable of long-term considerations.
Psssssst... as soon as mclame resigns as a Republican, he is forever stripped on any leadership positions in the Senate. He knows this, plus hundreds of statements that "I will always be a Republican, I was born a Republican and will die a Republican", that will be used to destroy his very word.
I can't stand McCain....he needs to be cut off at the knees (politically speaking)and his little "Igor" Lindsey Graham!
You AND ME, both, friend (either that or stay home) and this from a 63 year old, life-long Conservative and Nam Vet.
And, I threw in my service for a reason.
Won't go into details as most are known, but McCain killed ANY chance of my support in 04 (in spite of it being very weak after his despicable conduct during the POW/MIA hearings, which he chaired) when he sided with his good "bud" Kerry and told all of us Nam Vets, to basically shut up and quit criticzing Kerry and went out of his way to condemn the Swift Boat Vets.
That did it and the ONLY way anyone could get me to vote for this Meglomaniac is if his good "friend" Kerry, was running against him.
So why do you think McCain and VP Graham are acting like the french wing of the democrat party? I don't know about this theory thing but i have heard it from other places, articles have been written about it. I loved rush's examples re iran, he makes quite a sharp point, leaving out the "why" in it all. Do you know why they have taken this position? Like they and the far left are the only people in the world that could think this way?
For a long time (at least since the leftist Ellen Ratner expressed hope that McCain would be the Reppublican nominee) I have believed that McCain is being set up by the media. They have reams of material on him, both things we know, like the Keating 5, and all of those unguarded comments he made on the Straight Talk Express. They are ready to unload on him once he gets the nomination.
I have little fear that he will get the Republican nomination. His high-water mark of support was in 2000. Republicans have now had 6 years of his back-stabbing antics and are less than enthused with him.
So, his most likely avenue would be a third party nomination. I note that a coalition has formed in Colorado which could be his vehicle for running.
But then, what would the media do? As a third party candidate, McCain would NOT draw from Republicans. If they wouldn't vote for him as a Republican, why would they vote for him as a third party? His support would come from democrats, and the few Republicans who were alienated against whoever the nominee is. Destroying McCain will become necessary to the media once they realize where his support comes from.
Anyway, those are my thoughts on this issue. We will see.
One thing I think everyone is forgetting is McCain's temper is "legendary". If things get tight in the months leading up to the election in '08, McCain's mouth will alleviate any chance he has of being elected, third party or otherwise.
McCain is a megalomanical egocentric opportunist who will say anything, take any position, osculate any media prostitute or sacrifice any American security issue to achieve his goal - the White House and a place in history as President.
I'd rather vote for a dead dog than John McCain.
His antics recently on the treatment of terrorists and intransigence on that subject, his posture on the First and Second Amendments, on illegal invaders, on the Internet, and on McCain- Feingold, and his collusion with liberal Democrats to block conservative Supreme Court nominees of the President expose him for the moral strumpet he is.
If it came down between John McPain and Her Royal Thighness Hillary, I vote against Hillary, but not out of any love for McPain. I would never stay home.
Lacking a full psychological test results proving otherwise, I maintain John McCain is the Manchurian Candidate.
We simply don't know who is pulling his strings.
McCain NO, Rudy YES.
Glad you think you know this guy. I, unfortunately, voted for him when he ran for congress the first time, and have watched him slide consistently leftward over the years. He's a slimy guy, and I don't trust him a whit.
One thing's for sure: I will never, ever vote for him, even against Hillary. At least she admits to being a lunatic leftist.
Rush's theory sounds exactly right to me, and the only thing I'm on is antacids.
McCain has already long burned his bridges within the Republican Party. Even the most moderate of Republicans can see that he's obstructing a bill that's only purpose is to clarify a part of the Geneva Convention and most don't understand why he wouldn't want a more specific law.
The purpose of this public 'dispute' is to save RINO's like Chafee this election. "He's an effective 'moderate'- cause he's on the inside!".
McCain is just after face time on the media.
If you mean lip-service or appearing to support the nominee while schmoozing the news cameras, then I agree.
He is a selfish mental case that is so power hungry he doesn't care who he tramples over to reach his goal.
The guy does NOT have what it takes "upstairs" to be president.
He is WAY too unstable and proves it on a regular basis with his temper tantrums.
No. McCain is a "nut case" and that makes people think he is a maverick.
If McCain is a "maverick", so is Howard Dean.
Oh, c'mon! H. Ross Perot withdrew from the race for a month in August because he was afraid the CIA was going to crash his daughter's wedding! And he still pulled enough votes to let Bubba waltz into the White House with 42%.
I was listening to Rush from across the room, and it sounded like he was doing one of his lispy-lib voices, then I realized it was McLame actually speaking.
There's no way someone with a voice like that could inspire the majority to vote for him.
yes, but he's a hero.
You know I hate to say it but after seeing McCain and listening to him the past week, I honestly thought I could support a democrat more than him
The problem with McCain is that you can see, quite clearly, that he believes in absolutely nothing. He has crafted his image and positions in such a way that it benefits himself. It appears that this is his one and only consideration.
Now, some folks think that President-as-Marionette is a fine idea. After all, if polling and focus groups show the people want a certain position to be advanced, then having the President slavishly respond would be the ultimate form of direct democracy. Bill Clinton never pretended to be anything other than a poll-driven creature, and was quite successful, in his way.
But in these troubled times, we need somebody who is going to take the tough position and stick with it. We need somebody who can plausibly promise us blood, sweat, toil, and tears, because this fight against the Jihadists is going to be long and unpleasant. John McCain could never do that. At the first sign of trouble, he would respond to public pressure to cut and run.
Bill Clinton did that in Mogadishu, and the terrorists saw. We are still paying the price for that mistake.
I'll buy that.
I have agreed with Rush's theory for weeks, preceding the detainee flap.
McCain's chances of winning the GOP nomination in '08 are greatly enhanced if we are slaughtered in November.
McCain's only chance of winning over the conservative base is if he can convince them that he is the only hope of holding the White House.
That said, I believe a compromise on the detainee matter is in the works.
We simply don't know who is pulling his strings.
Why is it that a Candidate for POTUS isn't required to pass a psychological examination?
McCain is seriously disturbed and I could never vote for him..