Skip to comments.(Live Thread) PRES. BUSH ADDRESSES U.N. [11:30 EDT]
Posted on 09/19/2006 6:27:02 AM PDT by RobFromGa
President Bush is expected to address the situation in the Middle East, Iraq, and Iran's nuclear ambitions...
less than two hours till the Pres talks to the UN. spread the word.
UN General Assembly set for ideological showdown
The 61st General Assembly of the United Nations opens today in New York - and the stage is set for a high stakes ideological battle for control of the direction of international politics. George Bush wants Iran to face a clear threat of sanctions over its nuclear ambitions and is expected to call on the UN to "stand up for peace" at the conference of world leaders, the last General Assembly that Koffi Annan will host before retiring.
The White House refused Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad's offer to debate head to head with Bush on the nuclear issue - but Ahmadinejad will nevertheless take the floor to present Teheran's case. He's expected to reaffirm that Iran is developing nuclear technology for its domestic energy needs only. Also high on the agenda will be the continuing conflict in Darfour and the search for a breakthrough in the Palestinian conflict, following the recent war in Lebanon.
U.S. officials are well aware that some U.N. delegates are suspicious that the president has come to the global body once more to lay the groundwork for future military action. They say the speech won't be so much a call for action as an appeal for moderate forces to decide the future of the Middle East and to oppose extremist leaders.
Watch live streaming video of President Bush's address at 11:30 a.m. ET on FOXNews.com.
Bush considers Iranian President as one of the worst examples of Islamic extremism. The two leaders held dueling photo opportunities on Monday, with Bush spending part of his day meeting with Malaysian Prime Minister Abdullah Ahmad Badawi. He said Malaysia is living proof that Islamic nations can be moderate and democratic.
"It's been my honor to meet with you. You're one of the outstanding leaders in a very important part of the world," Bush told the prime minister.
Ahmadinejad will then make his counter-argument shortly after the U.S. president's address, trying to sell developing nations on the idea that the United States shouldn't lead the way to the future.
In Caracas, Venezuela on Monday, Ahmadinejad met with President Hugo Chavez, and the two oil rich, anti-American leaders, said the lesson of the 20th century is that Western domination leaves developing nations in poverty and misery. While at the United Nations, Iran is expected to push for Venezuela's bid for membership on the Security Council.
In the speech scheduled to follow Bush, Ahmadinejad will defend his country's nuclear program.
U.S. officials said a temporary suspension of Iran's uranium enrichment would be enough for Washington to join the talks over the program, and the president's spokesman rattled off a list of incentives he said Iran is passing up.
"We are going to give you civilian nuclear power. You can become part of a nuclear club, you just can't become part of the nuclear bomb club. We'll give you economic aid, we'll give you cultural ties, we're going to provide educational exchanges," White House Press Secretary Tony Snow said.
Bush said last week that he won't talk with Ahmadinejad, though the two will be in the same room. Instead, Iran's nuclear negotiator and European Union officials are doing most of the talking over Iran's pursuits.
Negotiators have raised the prospect of a temporary suspension while talks continue. National Security Advisor suggested that would be enough for the United States to join the process. Hadley told reporters on Air Force One "a permanent solution to this problem is what you negotiate about."
But later, Iran's government showed fissures as one official seemed to take back any talks of suspending activities.
"Iran's acceptance of limited suspension is a misunderstanding. We have not reached any conclusion over the issue yet," said government spokesman Gholamhossein Elham. Other Iranian officials have said nuclear power is a right the world can't take from them.
U.S. officials admit publicly they won't win sanctions on Iran this week, although Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice said both Russia, which is selling Iran nuclear technology, and China, which relies on Iran's oil, agree Tehran must give up uranium enrichment. Privately, officials say the job is to convince Russia and China to accept sanctions that are tough enough to matter.
They do not need, and cannot benefit from, a speech by our President. They need---and can benefit from---a demolition team which I would forever after refer to as New York's Other Finest.
Boy would I like to buy a piece of that wall for a paperweight.
I just can't get worked up about this anymore. It's like addressing a bunch of guys in lockup, warning them about the dangers of homosexual sex. Uh-huh.
Live thread here, ping.
I'd like Bush to say something nice about the Pope. That'd go over well with that crowd right about now.
Haven't heard any rumors about that, so I thought I would start one.
It would be nice, but the most we can hope for is another smackdown to the UN that they must act or face further irrelevance.
I'd like Bush to announce that we are withdrawing from the UN and throwing the lot of them out of the country!
Yep...but he'll likely give Iran a good smackdown..
NOOOOooooo...smack me !! Must need more coffee, eh? :) NOT intentional, TOL!!!
I just teasin ya! Morning Mom!
My guess is that the UK, Australia, Israel, Poland, Italy, Japan, Estonia, the Czech Republic, and others would probably support us in varying degrees from logistics to troops.
Mornin:) Just heard John Scott on FOX mention that MadMood is going to "hound" President Bush...trying to get him to speak with/to him. He will not attend the luncheon because there will be alcohol served...and it's "against islam"...
"Thanks for this opportunity. I'll keep this short.
You have a week to clean out your desks and find a new building somewhere else. We won't be providing any relocation funding, or any funding at all, for that matter.
Oh, and Iran - We begin bombing in five minutes."
How high can he go with a good UN smackdown?
Bush approval rating rebounds in new poll Tue Sep 19, 1:43 AM ET
President George W. Bush's approval rating has rebounded to 44 percent, the highest level in a year, in the latest USA TODAY/Gallup Poll, the newspaper reported on Tuesday.
Bush's approval rating jumped five points from 39 percent in the previous poll conducted earlier this month.
The bounce comes with seven weeks before elections to deicide control of Congress amid falling gas prices and a renewed campaign by Bush to boost support for the Iraq war and to portray Republicans as more competent than Democrats on security, the newspaper said.
Bush's approval rating edged up largely on the strength of Republicans coming back to the fold with 86 percent saying they support him now, compared to 70 percent in May, USA Today said.
For the first time since December 2005, a majority of people polled did not say the war in Iraq was a mistake. The respondents were evenly split at 49 percent to 49 percent, the report said.
However, the poll finds that the Iraq war continues to be a problem for Bush. Sixty percent said he does not have a clear plan for handling Iraq and 75 percent said Iraq is in a civil war, USA Today said.
I wish he'd chew them all out and then treat them to a slide presentation on Dafur.
Love it! LOL!
I did hear the president say the UN needs to clean up it's act and that US taxpayers want to know what's going on with THEIR money at the UN...he sounded exasperated..
I hope that the Secret Service have orders to "shoot" if Mad Mood gets anywhere near the President! (God forgive me)
Direct link to UN webcast
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Thanks, SE. It almost feels like the showdown at the OK corral. My money is on our guy :)
OK, Bush is at 11:30. What time does Leisure Suit Larry speak?
I would be okay with that (and may God forgive me as well). Since that little twerp is afraid to be in the same room where wine is served, one of the SS guys can just carry a glass around with him and splash it on Madmood if he gets too close.
I think he's Prime Time about 7pm. I'll try to confirm that.
Thanks so much for the ping Howlin.
Good morning to you.
Good morning to you, too!
I'm just pinging today; Rob's doing the "hard" work......herding this thread!
Unfortunately, I have to go out and do a LOT of errands I've been putting off for weeks!
NEW YORK (AP) - President Bush is trying to persuade skeptical world leaders to embrace his vision for the Middle East in a speech before the United Nations on Tuesday where he is calling on the world to stand up for peace'' in the face of violent extremism.
Bush's challenge is to build international support to confront multiple problems in the region: unabated violence in Iraq, a stalled Israeli-Palestinian peace process, armed Hezbollah militants in Lebanon and Iran defiantly pursuing its nuclear program.
The Iranian issue was at the top of the agenda for Bush's morning meeting with French President Jacques Chirac, who is balking at the U.S. drive to sanction Iran for defying U.N. Security Council demands that it freeze uranium enrichment.
Chirac proposed on Monday that the international community compromise by suspending the threat of sanctions if Tehran agrees to halt its uranium enrichment program and return to negotiations. The U.S. and other countries fear Iran is trying to build nuclear weapons, while Tehran insists its uranium enrichment program is to make fuel for nuclear power plants.
Besides Chirac, Bush also was meeting with Iraqi President Jalal Talabani, U.N. Secretary-General Kofi Annan and General Assembly President Sheikha Haya Rashed Al Khalifa.
Bush's speech was the last in a series on the war on terror, timed to surround last week's fifth anniversary of the Sept. 11 attacks and to set the tone for the final weeks of the U.S. midterm elections.
Bush was allotted 15 minutes for his annual address to the general assembly, and White House aides said he planned to use the time to call on the world to support moderate governments and help build up weak democracies in Iraq and Lebanon, as wells as the Palestinian Authority.
With remarks aimed especially at people living in the Middle East, Bush was drawing a distinction between the moderate governments that want peace and extremists who want to spread terror and violence.
He was describing his vision for moderates to choose the future instead of the extremists, pointing out that the same principles are in the U.N. charter and its declaration of human rights, aides said.
He planned to describe how every nation in the civilized world has a stake in the region, but especially the Muslim countries.
The world must stand up for peace,'' Bush said in remarks prepared for delivery.
Bush also planned to address the issue of Sudan, where three years of fighting in the African nation's Darfur region has killed more than 200,000 people. The president was scheduled to announce that Andrew Natsios, the former head of the U.S. Agency for International Development, will become Bush's special envoy for Sudan to help end the fighting.
Bush was speaking in the same cavernous room where four years and one week ago he made another plea for action in the Middle East. On that day, Bush said Saddam Hussein had stockpiles of deadly chemical and biological agents that the United Nations must confront.
He was wrong, but still forged ahead with war against Iraq without the support of many other nations. And he is still trying to rebuild credibility with the body, experts say.
The sense outside of the U.S. is that the United States is responsible for many of the failures in Iraq, first by going in mostly alone and then by incompetent administration,'' said Jon Alterman, a Mideast expert at the Center for Strategic and International Studies in Washington.
The problem with the way he's talked about democracy in the Middle East is not that people see it as undesirable,'' Alterman said, it's that people see it as naive. He needs to persuade cynical people that not only is he sincere, but it's achievable, and here's what they need to do to make it so.''
Interviewed on ABC's Good Morning America'' Tuesday, Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice was asked about increasing indications of hostility toward the United States and the Bush administration in other parts of the world.
We've had to do some difficult things,'' she replied. We've had to make clear that the war on terrorism has to be fought, has to be fought on the offense.''
While people may not always agree with our policy, they love the United States,'' Rice said. This is still a beacon of hope for the world.''
I think it would be great if for once the President came out and said something completely different from what they told the media they were going to say. The above would be great.
Well thanks and have a good day then. :-)
The wicked witch of the west just popped into my head.
Iranian Prez talks between 6 and 7pm tonight, see below:
Iran's prez skips chance to razz Bush
BY KENNETH R. BAZINET
DAILY NEWS WASHINGTON BUREAU
There won't be a confrontation on the General Assembly lunch menu today because the Iranian president has decided to skip it - passing up his best shot at ambushing President Bush with an impromptu debate.
Mahmoud Ahmadinejad has challenged Bush to a debate, and when the U.S. President turned him down, he suggested he would dog Bush at this week's General Assembly.
Bush has made it clear that he does not want to run into Ahmadinejad at the UN General Assembly this week because of Iran's secretive nuclear program, its support for terror groups like Hezbollah and vile comments the Iranian leader made calling for Israel to be "wiped off the map."
It's not clear why Ahmadinejad is passing on the lunch, which Fidel Castro once successfully used to shake hands with former President Bill Clinton.
Chances that the two men will bump into each other in the halls of the UN have been lessened by the fact that they are speaking nearly eight hours apart.
Bush is scheduled to speak at 11:30 a.m. discussing the war on terror, Iraq and Iran's nuclear ambitions.
The President is expected to single out Iran and Syria for trying to thwart democracy in the region.
"I think the President sees this ... as a struggle between the forces of extremism and the forces of moderation in the Middle East," national security adviser Stephen Hadley said, previewing Bush's speech. "And it's really a crucial time."
Ahmadinejad will address the gathering between 6 p.m. and 7 p.m., according to the UN.
They are still expected to engage in a war of words, with Ahmadinejad given the advantage of being able to respond in his remarks to Bush's speech.
that's my spot. you just stepped on me.
Get a grip you whinny losers in the Failed Media. Leaderhsip is not a popularity contest.
Forgive me, for I have sinned ;0)
Both of you scoot over, I'm coming in....;)
I think we should start being very worried if these dictators and thigs start to like us, and our policies. Same goes for the journalists who are just wannabe dictators.
Is a thig like a yute? ;)
Thanks! Will be glad when President Bush is out of there.
At least the hypocritical 'Monkey Man from Iran' won't be at the luncheon.
Indiscriminate Killing - Yes
Alcohol - No
Any more room for one more on that mark? I can't take Eleanor Cliff on FNC. BBL
Ugh. I just heard Eleanor, too!
Good Morning, Mystery-ak
Prez Bush just need to make some minor polishes to this speech to the UN in 2002 (http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/09/20020912-1.html):
...Delegates to the General Assembly, we have been more than patient. We've tried sanctions. We've tried the carrot of oil for food, and the stick of coalition military strikes. But Saddam Hussein has defied all these efforts and continues to develop weapons of mass destruction. The first time we may be completely certain he has a -- nuclear weapons is when, God forbids, he uses one. We owe it to all our citizens to do everything in our power to prevent that day from coming.
The conduct of the Iraqi regime is a threat to the authority of the United Nations, and a threat to peace. Iraq has answered a decade of U.N. demands with a decade of defiance. All the world now faces a test, and the United Nations a difficult and defining moment. Are Security Council resolutions to be honored and enforced, or cast aside without consequence? Will the United Nations serve the purpose of its founding, or will it be irrelevant?
The United States helped found the United Nations. We want the United Nations to be effective, and respectful, and successful. We want the resolutions of the world's most important multilateral body to be enforced. And right now those resolutions are being unilaterally subverted by the Iraqi regime. Our partnership of nations can meet the test before us, by making clear what we now expect of the Iraqi regime.
If the Iraqi regime wishes peace, it will immediately and unconditionally forswear, disclose, and remove or destroy all weapons of mass destruction, long-range missiles, and all related material.
If the Iraqi regime wishes peace, it will immediately end all support for terrorism and act to suppress it, as all states are required to do by U.N. Security Council resolutions.
If the Iraqi regime wishes peace, it will cease persecution of its civilian population, including Shi'a, Sunnis, Kurds, Turkomans, and others, again as required by Security Council resolutions.
If the Iraqi regime wishes peace, it will release or account for all Gulf War personnel whose fate is still unknown. It will return the remains of any who are deceased, return stolen property, accept liability for losses resulting from the invasion of Kuwait, and fully cooperate with international efforts to resolve these issues, as required by Security Council resolutions.
If the Iraqi regime wishes peace, it will immediately end all illicit trade outside the oil-for-food program. It will accept U.N. administration of funds from that program, to ensure that the money is used fairly and promptly for the benefit of the Iraqi people.
If all these steps are taken, it will signal a new openness and accountability in Iraq. And it could open the prospect of the United Nations helping to build a government that represents all Iraqis -- a government based on respect for human rights, economic liberty, and internationally supervised elections.
The United States has no quarrel with the Iraqi people; they've suffered too long in silent captivity. Liberty for the Iraqi people is a great moral cause, and a great strategic goal. The people of Iraq deserve it; the security of all nations requires it. Free societies do not intimidate through cruelty and conquest, and open societies do not threaten the world with mass murder. The United States supports political and economic liberty in a unified Iraq.
We can harbor no illusions -- and that's important today to remember. Saddam Hussein attacked Iran in 1980 and Kuwait in 1990. He's fired ballistic missiles at Iran and Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, and Israel. His regime once ordered the killing of every person between the ages of 15 and 70 in certain Kurdish villages in northern Iraq. He has gassed many Iranians, and 40 Iraqi villages.
My nation will work with the U.N. Security Council to meet our common challenge. If Iraq's regime defies us again, the world must move deliberately, decisively to hold Iraq to account. We will work with the U.N. Security Council for the necessary resolutions. But the purposes of the United States should not be doubted. The Security Council resolutions will be enforced -- the just demands of peace and security will be met -- or action will be unavoidable. And a regime that has lost its legitimacy will also lose its power.
Events can turn in one of two ways: If we fail to act in the face of danger, the people of Iraq will continue to live in brutal submission. The regime will have new power to bully and dominate and conquer its neighbors, condemning the Middle East to more years of bloodshed and fear. The regime will remain unstable -- the region will remain unstable, with little hope of freedom, and isolated from the progress of our times. With every step the Iraqi regime takes toward gaining and deploying the most terrible weapons, our own options to confront that regime will narrow. And if an emboldened regime were to supply these weapons to terrorist allies, then the attacks of September the 11th would be a prelude to far greater horrors.
If we meet our responsibilities, if we overcome this danger, we can arrive at a very different future. The people of Iraq can shake off their captivity. They can one day join a democratic Afghanistan and a democratic Palestine, inspiring reforms throughout the Muslim world. These nations can show by their example that honest government, and respect for women, and the great Islamic tradition of learning can triumph in the Middle East and beyond. And we will show that the promise of the United Nations can be fulfilled in our time.
Neither of these outcomes is certain. Both have been set before us. We must choose between a world of fear and a world of progress. We cannot stand by and do nothing while dangers gather. We must stand up for our security, and for the permanent rights and the hopes of mankind. By heritage and by choice, the United States of America will make that stand. And, delegates to the United Nations, you have the power to make that stand, as well.
Thank you very much. (Applause.)
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