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First-Grader Suspended Over Plastic Squirt Gun
KMBZ ^ | UPDATED: 5:01 pm CDT September 19, 2006

Posted on 09/20/2006 4:44:30 AM PDT by jmq

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101 posted on 09/20/2006 1:02:57 PM PDT by ReignOfError
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To: Thunder90
Many school districts don't even allow in military recruiters because of their association to guns, and for other PC reasons...

There's been a couple of cases where they wouldn't let someone who'd already joined the military on the delayed enlistment or reporting program, have a photo in the yearbook posed with a cannon or rifle, while they were wearing a uniform.

102 posted on 09/20/2006 8:48:29 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: TigersEye
Not everyone in the country reacts to the sight of gun with a neurotic emotional breakdown.

Indeed, back in the early 60s, when I was in 9th grade, not little kid anymore, some friends and I decided to go hunting after school. We rode our bicycles down a main arterial street in a city of 125,000 or so, with both cased and uncased shotguns over the handlebars. No one called the police, the police would have laughed at them if they had. Now we'd be taken into custody and to juvi hall, even if we hadn't actually committed a crime, but "just in case".

When I was younger, I'd ride that bike down the main street of the business district of what had once been a separate town, with a BB gun. I'd go into stores with it, or leave it with the bike. Usually the stop at the store was for more BBs and maybe a Superman comic book (10-12 cents) and/or a bottle of pop. (10 cents + 2 cents deposit) :)

103 posted on 09/20/2006 9:01:10 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: from occupied ga

How could other posters make such disparaging remarks toward a Freeper as eloquent and thoughtful as you? (visited your home page).


104 posted on 09/21/2006 6:01:27 AM PDT by x1stcav (I always thought he was a Murthaf*cker.)
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To: All

I wouldn't send my dog to a public school.


105 posted on 09/21/2006 6:06:36 AM PDT by Jonx6
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To: x1stcav
How could other posters make such disparaging remarks toward a Freeper as eloquent and thoughtful as you? (visited your home page).

LOL! I dunno - haven't figured that out myself. :-)

106 posted on 09/21/2006 6:09:07 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government)
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To: FreedomPoster
You can provide feedback to the KC school district here.

KC, MO School District Feedback

107 posted on 09/21/2006 6:47:30 AM PDT by One_American
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To: jmq
said Danielle Womack, whose son, Tawann Caskey...Moultrie reported that principals have no discretion in cases like Tawaan's...

Quality journalism!

108 posted on 09/21/2006 6:55:22 AM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: 2Jedismom; Aggie Mama; agrace; Antoninus; bboop; blu; cgk; Clintonfatigued; ...
ANOTHER REASON TO HOMESCHOOL PING!

Just wait 'til you see the picture of the "gun". ;-)

This ping list is for the "other" articles of interest to homeschoolers about education and public school. If you want on/off this list, please freepmail me. The main Homeschool Ping List by DaveLoneRanger handles the homeschool-specific articles.

109 posted on 09/21/2006 10:39:36 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes (That's taxes, not Texas. I have no beef with TX. NJ has the highest property taxes in the nation.)
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To: El Gato
Or the mother continued to use her maiden name after she was married.

That's what I did. Socially, I always gave my husband's last name, but legally I kept my maiden name, thinking it would be easier than changing all other documents to my new name. What a mistake! Whether we were buying a house or taking our kids to the hospital, everyone was confused.

The questions I got:

"Are you REALLY married or just saying that?"

"And who are you? You're his... MOTHER? Really?"

It never helped that my kids look nothing like me... lol.

All that said, it is possible that the mother is a single mother who gave her child the father's last name. That's quite common.

110 posted on 09/21/2006 10:47:30 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes (That's taxes, not Texas. I have no beef with TX. NJ has the highest property taxes in the nation.)
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To: jmq

And I suppose no one here thinks a kid with squirt gun is just a ~tad~ disruptive in school? Long live freedom and liberty for six year olds and all that?


111 posted on 09/21/2006 10:50:32 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: M. Dodge Thomas
There are some awfully realistic looking squirt guns out there – do you want to put the schools in the business of deciding which are “realistic enough” to fool other children or staff? Realistic enough to be mistaken by security staff for the real thing? IMO, the most even-handed way to avoid such difficulties is to issue a blanket ban on any sort of object “gunlike” enough to pass muster as a “squirt gun”.

And then, there is also the issue of what's in the gun – children do some pretty stupid things for reasons often unclear to the adult around them; if their child gets a squirt of bleach or insecticide in he face are most parent going to accept the explanation that “boys will be boys” or “it's only a squirt-gun anyway”?

Finally, there's the question of why any child should be in the possession of any object that's sole purpose in a school is to distract and disrupt.

Excellent post!

Furthermore parents who try to get in the middle and contradict the school instead of supporting school discipline are doing their children a terrible disservice. When I was a kid, if I got in trouble at school, I was in BIG trouble at home. I had better behave, my mommy was not going to get me out of it.

112 posted on 09/21/2006 10:57:48 AM PDT by HairOfTheDog
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To: HairOfTheDog
All very good points. But the article doesn't say that the child was suspended for "disrupting" a class or squirting anyone.

The articles says:

KMBC's Natalie Moultrie reported that Tawann was suspended over a 2-inch plastic squirt gun.

"She told me it's a weapon, a little girl saw it and reported to a teacher that he had a weapon," Womack said.

One of my sons used to belong to a boys-only homeschool club, and one of their favorite activities in the hot weather was a water gun fight. They'd bring all their water guns - a lot bigger than the two-inch red plastic thing this 6 year old brought to school - my son would load up with the double-action squirt guns - and battle each other in teams. (It never turned my son into a bully, that's for sure).

I can understand a school not permitting water guns at all. But I think they should just take the water gun away. Suspending a child for 10 days just because another child "saw" the toy is over the top. :-)

113 posted on 09/21/2006 11:55:34 AM PDT by Tired of Taxes (That's taxes, not Texas. I have no beef with TX. NJ has the highest property taxes in the nation.)
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To: jmq; Tired of Taxes

This is absurd. Actually, the mother would be well-advised to find her son some good books to read. He'd learn more from reading at home than from the school lessons.


114 posted on 09/21/2006 3:08:12 PM PDT by Clintonfatigued (Nihilism is at the heart of Islamic culture)
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To: Clintonfatigued

I hope the mother surfs the internet. Maybe she'll come across this thread and think about homeschooling or private school. ;-)


115 posted on 09/21/2006 6:42:36 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes (That's taxes, not Texas. I have no beef with TX. NJ has the highest property taxes in the nation.)
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To: RedRightReturn
Back in the early 80's, my brother and I used to hunt before school. We would leave the shotguns i the Vice Prinicpal's Office while school was in session , then bring 'em home ON THE BUS at the end of the day. Oh and get ready for this......this happened in NEW FRICKIN JERSEY!

Class of '82 here. :-) Grew up in PA, not NJ. But now I live in South Jersey. And I believe you. People don't know that much of NJ is rural. A lot of pickup trucks and gun clubs in my area (but, no, I don't own the first, nor do I belong to the second). Still lots of wilderness here, too.

116 posted on 09/21/2006 9:32:18 PM PDT by Tired of Taxes (That's taxes, not Texas. I have no beef with TX. NJ has the highest property taxes in the nation.)
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To: Tired of Taxes

Class of '84, still in South Jersey!

TPK exit 2


117 posted on 09/22/2006 3:57:12 AM PDT by RedRightReturn (Even a broken clock is right twice a day...)
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