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First-Grader Suspended Over Plastic Squirt Gun
KMBZ ^ | UPDATED: 5:01 pm CDT September 19, 2006

Posted on 09/20/2006 4:44:30 AM PDT by jmq

First-Grader Suspended Over Plastic Squirt Gun School District Says Policy Prohibits Exceptions

POSTED: 3:50 pm CDT September 19, 2006 UPDATED: 5:01 pm CDT September 19, 2006 Email This Story | Print This Story Sign Up for Breaking News Alerts KANSAS CITY, Mo. -- A mother is angry that her first-grader was suspended from school over a plastic toy gun.

"I asked her, 'You're going to suspend my son for 10 days for this? He cannot harm a soul with this,'" said Danielle Womack, whose son, Tawann Caskey, was suspended from Milton Moore Elementary School.

KMBC's Natalie Moultrie reported that Tawann was suspended over a 2-inch plastic squirt gun.

"She told me it's a weapon, a little girl saw it and reported to a teacher that he had a weapon," Womack said.

According to Kansas City, Mo., School District policy, the squirt gun is a simulated weapon and a class IV, which is the most serious school offense. Moultrie reported that principals have no discretion in cases like Tawaan's. It is an automatic 10-day suspension.

"We ask our principals for safety of students and staff, and we do follow the code of conduct and do not give exceptions to Class IV offenses. We take it very seriously," the school district's Phyllis Budesheim said.

Moultrie reported that the incident will stay on Tawann's school record. But Womack said her son does not understand why he's not in school.

"I think this could have been resolved in a different way. It's wrong to bring it school, but come on, he's 6 years old. This would not hurt a soul," Womack said.

The school district said it is all policy -- one that the school told students and parents about at the start of the year.

"We regret that this happened. My feeling is that by not giving any exceptions, this young man will not bring a toy gun to school again," Budesheim said.

The school district said that the incident should be a reminder to parents to check their children's backpacks before they go to school.

Moultrie reported that Womack is waiting to state her case before a school district hearing Wednesday morning.


TOPICS: News/Current Events; US: Missouri
KEYWORDS: bang; banglist; bravenewschools; butterknifes; diversity; educrats; liberalschools; omgasquirtgun; publicschools; subzerotolerance; teachers; tolerance; zerotolerance
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You wonder why the KC school district is so poorly run......Sending your kid there is "child abuse" per se.
1 posted on 09/20/2006 4:44:31 AM PDT by jmq
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To: jmq

BTW the gun was about 3 inches and completely red in color.


2 posted on 09/20/2006 4:45:57 AM PDT by jmq (Islam=Religion of Peace)
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To: jmq

confront, humiliate and outthink these pc a$$holes....that is what i have had to do with my kids, and for the most part it works ( confront a bully and they usually back down )


3 posted on 09/20/2006 4:48:46 AM PDT by joe fonebone (Israel, taking out the world's trash since 1948.)
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To: jmq
Alright, suspending a first grader for a water pistol seems stupid, but I wonder if they did it because the mother's a problem. If she's been hauled into the school before, laughed, and shrugged her shoulders and said "boys will be boys", it could be the school is trying to send her a message to start taking her son's poor behavior seriously.

Gosh, I can't believe I just defended a public school administration.

4 posted on 09/20/2006 4:49:12 AM PDT by old and tired (Run Swannie, run!)
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To: jmq

Zero Tolerance = Zero Intelligence.


5 posted on 09/20/2006 4:49:15 AM PDT by Hegemony Cricket (Once again, raw sewage has overflowed into the arab street)
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To: jmq

A plastic squirt "gun" is called a weapon, and they take it very seriously.
Then obviously they do not have normal healthy minds.


6 posted on 09/20/2006 4:50:03 AM PDT by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (Leftist policies don't work. They hurt those they pretend to help.)
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To: jmq

They'll take my squirt gun when they pry it from my cold, dead hand.


7 posted on 09/20/2006 4:51:48 AM PDT by Reform4Bush
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To: jmq

""We ask our principals for safety of students and staff, and we do follow the code of conduct and do not give exceptions to Class IV offenses. We take it very seriously," the school district's Phyllis Budesheim said.""

This woman is a complete idiot. She should be embarrassed.


8 posted on 09/20/2006 4:52:18 AM PDT by x1stcav (I always thought he was a Murthaf*cker.)
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To: jmq

It's official. We've become a nation of total pu**ies.


9 posted on 09/20/2006 4:54:20 AM PDT by RightOnline
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To: jmq
The 60's flower children are in charge of public education.
10 posted on 09/20/2006 4:54:43 AM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Reform4Bush
"They'll take my squirt gun when they pry it from my cold, dead, wet hand."

There. Fixed it.

11 posted on 09/20/2006 4:55:25 AM PDT by RightOnline
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To: jmq

zero tolerance works. if you're a police state.


12 posted on 09/20/2006 4:55:25 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (the devil has come to new york city)
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To: jmq
...2-inch plastic squirt gun
...which is the most serious school offense.
...principals have no discretion in cases like Tawaan's

Wow.
Seldom see so much nonsense in 3 short lines.
13 posted on 09/20/2006 4:56:50 AM PDT by MaryFromMichigan
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To: old and tired

What poor behavior? The kid is six.
WHY is a red squirt gun considered by the school as a Class whaterverthehell "weapon".Too many coulda mightas and maybes to come up with that defense.
One thing he will most likely take out of it is that school adults are not to be trusted and their punishments do not reflect the "crime" and that they are really dumb. Not now...but by high school certainly.

And the schools will have labeled him as a "troublemaker".

One big happy circle.


14 posted on 09/20/2006 4:57:04 AM PDT by Adder (Can we bring back stoning again? Please?)
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To: Hegemony Cricket
Zero Tolerance = Zero Intelligence.
"Zero Tolerance" is how the school boards and teachers' unions create the appearance of "doing something" without ever having to exercise anything resembling judgement or common sense.

-Eric

15 posted on 09/20/2006 4:57:29 AM PDT by E Rocc (Myspace "Freepers" group moderator)
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To: MaryFromMichigan
The scary little death-killer-murder weapon
16 posted on 09/20/2006 4:57:52 AM PDT by jmq (Islam=Religion of Peace)
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To: RightOnline

I've seen the slow pu**ification of America since the early 60s. I am glad my dad isnt around to see this......


17 posted on 09/20/2006 4:58:56 AM PDT by jmq (Islam=Religion of Peace)
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To: old and tired

Nothing in the article sttates that. Although I don't know about the school crime in the area or the discipline problems the school encounters. On the surface is sounds dumb, but there may be more than meets the eys as you suggested.


18 posted on 09/20/2006 5:00:39 AM PDT by fml
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To: old and tired

Nope, they did it because some dolt codified as 'zero tolerance' policy under which squirt guns were 'simulated weapons' for which the sentence meeted out was a 10 day suspension.

Like the poster just after you said, 'zero tolerance = zero intelligence'.


19 posted on 09/20/2006 5:01:11 AM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: old and tired

Our schools have the same policies. And for the most part, our children have never really had toy guns to play with. My son has a pellet gun, though. I'm safe for the time being, it's too big to fit in the backpack if he tried. :)


20 posted on 09/20/2006 5:03:02 AM PDT by Pan_Yans Wife ("Death is better, a milder fate than tyranny. "--Aeschylus)
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To: joe fonebone

It's a shame in your situation a little physical butt-whooping can't legally be applied to those self perceived PC bullies in your school system. Amazingly ironic how the PC liberal elitists are so overwhelmingly narrow minded after a 'higher-education'. Their minds and behavior reek of contaminated man made manure!!


21 posted on 09/20/2006 5:04:10 AM PDT by RSmithOpt (Liberalism: Highway to Hell)
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To: Reform4Bush
They'll take my squirt gun when they pry it from my cold, dead hand.

LMAO! ;-)

22 posted on 09/20/2006 5:04:12 AM PDT by Northern Alliance
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To: The_Reader_David

The suspend the kid for this yet many of the kids on the streets of our cities with REAL guns manage to slide somehow.


23 posted on 09/20/2006 5:05:23 AM PDT by TNCMAXQ
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To: jmq

Amazingly, the same people who created this type of intolerance towards squirt guns and kids are the ones who like to claim that Muslims extremists are simply poor, misguided souls who need our understanding and tolerance.


24 posted on 09/20/2006 5:05:45 AM PDT by onevoter
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To: jmq

In the old Soviet Union, fighter pilots relied on GCI (Ground Control Intercept) stations to tell them where to turn and what targets to engage. Most soldiers in the Army were not taught to navigate so they could not function without senior leadership. By removing people's ability to make decisions, Communism kept people in control.

The inability of some of our school leaders to make rational decisions is baffling unless you suppose they're practicing their own brand of Communism.


25 posted on 09/20/2006 5:06:49 AM PDT by ryan71
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To: jmq

These idiot schools think, that banning squirt guns will prevent the usage of a real one.

And the narrow minded teachers think that "we are now doing something to prevent a problem".

They don't. The problem is at home. From the beginning of America people had guns at home, yet kids didn't take them to schools and didn't kill their classmates and teachers. It was not an issue until the second part of the 20th century. Thus, it has nothing to do with the guns. It is an upbringing issue, where kids today allowed to do whatever comes to their minds. Parents became robots who bring their kids up based on some hazy pink image of what should be right and wrong, which has little correlation to reality.

Gabor


26 posted on 09/20/2006 5:07:30 AM PDT by Casio
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To: jmq
I think the refusal to allow discretion is to minimize lawsuits based on perceived disparities in enforcement.

You know. A principal lets a white girl "get away with" possessing a Midol for menstrual cramps, and next thing you know, a black girl is caught with Ritalin that is not precribed for her, and some lawyer claims that there was racial animus in the disparate treatment of the two "offenses." Yes, there is a big difference, but who can trust courts to get anything right anymore. So they eliminate any discretion or judgement from the process.

27 posted on 09/20/2006 5:07:54 AM PDT by Montfort
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To: jmq

A water balloon must be classified as a WMD then?


28 posted on 09/20/2006 5:08:31 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: Northern Alliance

when 1st graders squirt guns are outlawed, only criminals, (and 2nd graders,) will have squirt guns,


29 posted on 09/20/2006 5:09:26 AM PDT by tm61
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To: jmq

**Moultrie reported that the incident will stay on Tawann's school record.***

This is the part I have objection too. What right do they have saddling a 6 yo with a bad record?


30 posted on 09/20/2006 5:10:13 AM PDT by sgtbono2002 (The fourth estate is a fifth column.)
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To: old and tired
Well, I remember getting my squirt gun taken away from me in grade school by Sister Yardstick Stigmata. I got a beating too. But I was able to keep it from my parents.

I got "pops" and "swats" all thru school. I was a "hard learner". After 12 years of nuns and Jesuits, Navy Boot Camp was a breeze.

31 posted on 09/20/2006 5:10:43 AM PDT by battlegearboat
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To: PBRSTREETGANG

LOL!


32 posted on 09/20/2006 5:11:02 AM PDT by Abathar (Proudly catching hell for posting without reading the article since 2004)
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To: jmq

I think it would be great if the NRA reached out to this boy and his parent(s) in an effort to positively impact his life and make lemonade out of the lemon this school shoved down his throat!!

Perhaps an all-expenses paid scholarship to a local PRIVATE SCHOOL. Then if he gets the grades, pay for his college too!

Instead of living his life as an example of what NOT to do, and bearing the stigma of all that entails, he would be given the opportunity to show how positive reinforcement and positive support yield a far better result.

Who knows, maybe he could grow up to be the Attorney that works hard to successfully restore the Second Amendment Rights to all Citizens.

Wouldn't *THAT be juicy! Unintended consequences and all that...

R3


33 posted on 09/20/2006 5:13:14 AM PDT by RedRightReturn (Even a broken clock is right twice a day...)
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To: Hegemony Cricket

No, no...Zero Tolerance is a good thing. Shows we're puttin' the hammer down.


34 posted on 09/20/2006 5:13:50 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: x1stcav
This woman is a complete idiot. She should be embarrassed.

She is a government bureaucrat and BY DEFINITION has NO accountability to anyone except her boss in the government bureaucracy. She could outrage every citizens in the district and they can't do a thing about her. She can't even lose an election. She can be as stupid, arbitrary and capricious as she wants and will NEVER face any consequences for her actions. The second best thing about working for the government is NEVER having to admit you were wrong.

35 posted on 09/20/2006 5:14:03 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your most dangerous enemy is your own government)
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To: jmq

Meanwhile, the kids are still allowed to keep their sharpened pencils.


36 posted on 09/20/2006 5:14:21 AM PDT by Niteranger68 (I gigged your peace frog.)
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To: Hegemony Cricket
Zero Tolerance = Zero Intelligence

That is about the best summary I've ever seen of this insanity.

37 posted on 09/20/2006 5:14:31 AM PDT by PistolPaknMama (Al-Queda can recruit on college campuses but the US military can't! --FReeper airborne)
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To: jmq
Its stupid! A toy SQUIRT gun is NOT a weapon! Its a TOY! Brain-dead liberal school administrators can't distinguish between a TOY and a GUN!

"Show me just what Mohammed brought that was new, and there you will find things only evil and inhuman, such as his command to spread by the sword the faith he preached." -Manuel II Paleologus

38 posted on 09/20/2006 5:16:21 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: Montfort

ding ding ding!
We have a winner!

Lawsuits are at the very core of the idea of zerotolerance.


39 posted on 09/20/2006 5:17:18 AM PDT by mylife (the roar of masses could be farts)
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To: Pan_Yans Wife
Sadly, I've read of kids being suspended for simply drawing a picture of a gun.

I did a quick search to show an example and found this, Third Grader Suspended For Drawing Soldier
40 posted on 09/20/2006 5:18:06 AM PDT by MaryFromMichigan
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To: jmq

We had a kindergartner suspended for 4 days for bringing a string popper to school in Racine, Wisconsin. They used the 'firearms and explosives' clause in the school code of conduct to decide that one.


41 posted on 09/20/2006 5:18:14 AM PDT by Trust but Verify
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To: old and tired
"boys will be boys",

Boys will be boys and girls will be girls....what's the problem other than a public school system expecting PC behavior from a child plus political knowledge....?

42 posted on 09/20/2006 5:18:23 AM PDT by cbkaty (I may not always post...but I am always here......)
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To: jmq
... Danielle Womack, whose son, Tawann Caskey, ...

Most children have similar or the same last names as their parents ... there is some disconnect here - just can't put my finger on it ... ;-)

43 posted on 09/20/2006 5:19:55 AM PDT by Ken522
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To: Leftism is Mentally Deranged

I was a middle school science teacher for 35 years . I always had a LOADED squirt gun in my desk for retaliation should I be confronted by a student with intent to wet . Nobody ever told me to take the NRA sticker off my door either . BTW , this was in the People's Repubnlic of Zoo Jersey . My common quote for teaching in the building was that I was " Surrounded by Idiots! "


44 posted on 09/20/2006 5:20:22 AM PDT by Renegade
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To: jmq
If it were my kid I would go buy the biggest super soaker ever made and put it under my trenchcoat for my meeting with the Principle and when they pushed me over the edge I would pul it out and soak the heck out of them and tell them to suspend me.
I know I'm a total jackass, but being a total jackass has it's moments.
45 posted on 09/20/2006 5:20:55 AM PDT by Manic_Episode (Some mornings, it's just not worth chewing through the leather straps...)
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To: jmq; Tired of Taxes
"I asked her, 'You're going to suspend my son for 10 days for this? He cannot harm a soul with this,'" said Danielle Womack, whose son, Tawann Caskey, was suspended from Milton Moore Elementary School.

Translation: "You're gonna brush this kid off on me for 10 day?? Whattaya expect me to do with him for 10 day!?"

46 posted on 09/20/2006 5:21:11 AM PDT by 2Jedismom (Expect me when you see me!)
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To: old and tired
Public School Administrators amaze me! Their knee jerk reactions and blanket "zero tolerance" policies make me believe that they have either lost their minds or had no minds in the first place!
47 posted on 09/20/2006 5:21:40 AM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland (Islam is the Death Cult of Perpetual Outrage!)
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To: The_Reader_David

Nope, they did it because some dolt codified as 'zero tolerance' policy under which squirt guns were 'simulated weapons' for which the sentence meeted out was a 10 day suspension.

Like the poster just after you said, 'zero tolerance = zero intelligence'.<<

It's worse than a lack of intellect... it is a lack of judgement literally. Policies are not laws and require judgement to ADMINISTRATE. Zero tolerance policies are a silly way opt out of judgement as a duty.

Fire the administrator, and hire a robot. It'd be cheaper and fairer.

DK


48 posted on 09/20/2006 5:24:51 AM PDT by Dark Knight
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To: Renegade
"middle school science teacher for 35 years"

Wow. Thank you for your service. I know in that job you gotta kick someones a** on the first day or you're done for the rest of the year. Or even better is to be a "cool" teacher.
49 posted on 09/20/2006 5:28:18 AM PDT by varyouga (I no longer fear death. I only fear the day when the DUmmies take over.)
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To: jmq

Wouldn't you love to send Phyllis Budesheim email praising her brave decision?


50 posted on 09/20/2006 5:29:09 AM PDT by theDentist (Qwerty ergo typo : I type, therefore I misspelll.)
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